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Toyota Matrix



  • scarro1scarro1 Posts: 1
    Did anyone get a valet key with their electronic keys? Purchased a base 1.8 liter with power package option. Car came with two electronic keys. Initially the dealer stated two electronic keys, and a valet key to protect the glovebox contents. However, there is no lock on the glove box and delivery package had no valet key. Dealer stated would make a valet key.

    Just curious as I don't won't to wonder if there is a valet key floating around the dealership that can unlock and start my car
  • herzogtum71herzogtum71 Posts: 470
    Thanks, nippon. What does AN stand for?

    A report I found from late February says that the the NHTSA was investigating the Vibe, Matrix and Corolla for complaints about the vehicles' power windows. The author later said that all complaints involved vehicles roduced at NUMMI in California.

    So either Matrixes also were made in California unbeknownst to me (I thought the NUMMI plant produced only the Vibe and the version exported to Japan known as the Voltz), or NHTSA discovered that the same faulty bolts were also at other manufacturing plants such as in Ontario.

    Or is there something faulty about my logic here? Anyway, if we don't get a recall notice on the '03 by the end of April (the time-frame stated in the reports I have heard), I'm going to call my service deprtment and ask them to check the VIN number against their recall info.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    AN is Automotive News, and it may be that Toyota is recalling the Matrix just to be on the safe side? I dunno. Certainly Corollas are built at NUMMI, so that part of the recall makes sense. And of course, most of the 500K+ Toyotas recalled were Corollas, not Matrixes.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • No I didn't get a valet key, just the two electronic keys with the button for the remote starter I bought. I have the base model as well.
  • herzogtum71herzogtum71 Posts: 470
    Hmm. 2003 promotional materials talked about a locking glovebox. But no one in this forum had a lock. Interesting that the same issue exists 5 years later.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    If you go to the dealer, they will be able to sell you a replacement insert, rather than replacing the whole blade, and you will pay about $5 for it, which doesn't seem too bad, like an arm and a leg would be.

    It's such a short blade that it may be that the aftermarket just doesn't have it, I dunno.

    Certainly if you go to (or call) the dealer parts department and ask them, they will be able to tell you what size it is, so you can check out the parts store for options.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • etchedetched Posts: 6
    I have a 2009 Toyota Matrix S and I was wondering if the cargo area (ie: rear seats folded down, measurement between the tops of the rear seats to the very back of the cargo area as well as width) would be the same as in years past. No one I have spoken with knows and I'd like to find a nice carpeted cargo mat to fit when the seats are down.

    I do realize that buying a new model year vehicle involves some difficulties with buying accessories, but it would be nice to know for sure if there were changes in measurements worth noting. Some accessory websites only come up to 2005, which seems limiting. Any thoughts?

    And oh, when I was "chatting" with toyota online, the rep typed out one of those silly disclaimers about making alterations to or swapping parts in a new vehicle with a warranty. I almost fell out of my chair laughing due to the fact that an after market carpet/mat couldn't be further from that example, LOL. It's an add-on, not a swapped part, get it Toyota? NOT
  • herzogtum71herzogtum71 Posts: 470
    I know that the cargo area behind the rear seat has been reduced. Our 2003 Matrix lists 21.8 cubic feet. My brother showed me literature for the new models that show a reduction of close to two cubic feet.

    What I don't know is the answer to your question. The roof slope on the hatch is greater than on earlier model years, so that accounts for at least some of the reduced cargo area.

    With rear seat folded down, ours is listed as 53.2 cubic feet. Even if your literature has the same figure, your best bet would be to take measurements for yourself.
  • herzogtum71herzogtum71 Posts: 470
    Recall notice arrived in today's mail. The work is supposed to take about an hour. Has anyone had the work done already?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Mine is an '07, so it's not included.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • lil_bru65lil_bru65 Posts: 2
    Nippononly, Sorry, I just found out you'd posted a response. You're right about the inserts. My husband bought both the front & rear inserts for about $11 from our dealership's parts dept back in March or April. Definitely a better deal than the ones for his 2007 Tundra. Apparently, you can't buy just inserts for those wipers; you have to buy the whole assembly at a ballpark cost of $60 w/tax. :D
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    I may be wrong here, but I believe that all Toyotas including the Tundra come from the factory with wipers on which you can replace just the inserts. The problem is the first time you go to replace them, if you replace the whole assembly with an aftermarket one, then you will no longer ever be able to replace just the inserts unless/until you go to the Toyota store and first buy replacement assemblies from them. It is only the factory assemblies that allow the option of replacing just the insert. All the aftermarket companies want you to buy new assemblies every year, because they make more profit that way.

    I would be surprised if the Tundra were any different, but it is certainly a possibility. Toyota has been doing business the way I described for many years now, not sure why they would suddenly change practices just for the Tundra.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Well, I just had occasion to replace one tire because I ran over something that sliced my tire to pieces. That's the first time I have installed a spare in probably at least ten years!

    Anyway, the stock Goodyear Eagles are expensive! The only places that had them in stock wanted $130 or more for one! And believe it or not, the dealer had the lowest price, so that's the way I went.

    But holy smokes! $130 for one 16" tire that's not even a particularly high performance tire??!! I wanted to get the same kind even though it was expensive, just so it would match the other tires on the car. When it finally comes time to replace all four, I think I will be switching to Michelin Energys. If they are going to cost this much anyway, might as well have a Michelin, and a quiet one with a treadwear warranty at that...

    I am at almost 20K miles, by the way, with none of the tire issues that some less fortunate Matrix owners have reported. Personally, I am convinced that while there may have been some minor issues with the way some people's cars were built, the bigger part of the problem by far was with the Continentals that Toyota was using when the Matrix was first introduced.

    At the rate they are wearing, I have no doubt I will get at least 40K miles out of my tires, and I am hoping for 50K.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • I have had a flat too (ran over a nail and a screw) and the guy at the tire place (discount tire) said they weren't cheap either (105.00 to 150 per tire) . I have a while to go before I have to replace them so I guess I'll start saving now. :)
  • the_big_althe_big_al Posts: 1,069
    I've posted this in another forum, but hope that this forum also generated a response...

    I am about to start a new job that requires a lot of travel and I need an inexpensive, good gas milage, low maintenance vehicle. The Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe is the vehicle at the top of my list right now, but I would like to see what others have experience while owning and driving their's.

    So here are some questions and if you have an answer to any of them please let me know:

    1. What is the average gas milage you have experienced both in town and while on the highway?

    2. What is the maintenance record? What have been the common things to fail and at what milage did they fail? How much did it cost to repair?

    3. What is the plausible service life of the vehicle? I am looking to get 200K of more and will that be fairly trouble free with routine maintanence?

    4. Performance-wise how do the different motor options stack up? If you could would you recomend the AWD even though it has the lowest horsepower rating, or do you get the higher performance though front-wheel drive only engine?

    5. Comfort-wise, how did you feel after a long trip? Did you long to get out of the car or was a long trip a fairly bearable experience.

    6. Did you feel safe while driving the car? Meaning did you feel confident that you would be able to handle all types of weather conditions and or traffic conditions such as snow and or ice, and panic stops and manuvers? If not, in which conditons did you not feel comfortable with and would you attribute this to the car's inability or your inability to handle the condition? Example: would the car be able to handle an icy road, but you would not because you have never driven on one before?

    These are my basic questions and any advice is much appreciated. I am looking to do 2500-3000K miles a month and need to do so in fairly good comfort with out having to spend an arm and a leg at the gas pump and at the repair shop both before the 100K mile mark and after. I understand that there are parts that wear out and nothing lasts forever, but if I can get the car to go to 200K with out any major repairs, that is what I am looking for. And if I can get it to do that while maintaining some degree of comfort and style I will be happy. I just don't want to be stuck driving a fancy Geo Metro.
  • vin737vin737 Posts: 1
    Hi oreng, I'm having the exact same problem with my '06 Matrix. After I jumped another car, both of the low beams are not working. I've replaced the headlights, check all the fuses and relays, which are working fine. What ended up being the problem with yours, was it grounding?


  • Has any one tried to install the new 09 roof rack on an older matrix I am going to measure and see if it can be done

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    At 19K miles, my Matrix has sprung a leak!

    Not a bad one, but it is coming from the engine compartment and staining my driveway.

    I guess I might get to use my warranty on this one. It goes in on Thursday. :-/

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    I had a leaking radiator and a leak at the timing chain tensioner, so both were replaced. It was all under warranty, so free to me, but if it had not been, the parts alone would have been $349. I figure the total cost with labor would have been around $550, maybe $600. So I'm glad it was covered for free.

    But I'm not glad I needed repairs at such a low mileage. These days, not just because of this but because of other little things as well, I am wondering if I will be buying any more Toyotas in the future.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • herzogtum71herzogtum71 Posts: 470
    Hey, Nippon. There's no excuse for leaks at 19K. I had an '88 Renault that sprang leaks at 12K, but that was a Renault and not a Toyota. Let us know how your car is holding up in another few months.
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