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Toyota Matrix

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  • tomkisttomkist Posts: 6
    Just purchased a new XR after shopping around for a couple weeks. Unfortunately in CA Toyota is only outfitting the XR a couple different ways, and to get ABS you have to get the moonroof and a few other bells and whistles... personally, I like the packages for the midwest better (ABS, Cruise, 17" wheels, all-weather package, sports plus) than the CA packages. Here's the deal I got at Geweke Toyota in Lodi:

    Matrix XR, Indigo Ink
    Auto
    ABS
    Sport Package (Moonroof, AL wheels)
    Sports Plus (Fog Lamps, Spoilers)
    6CD
    Floor Mats, Cargo Mat, Cargo Nets

    MSRP: $19,642
    Price: $18,641

    And to top it off, working with Geweke was a much more pleasant experience than any of the other dealers we tried working with. In particular, Magnussen Toyota in Palo Alto was frustrating and a waste, do not buy your car from them.

    To sum up: if you live in the SF Bay Area, look up Geweke Toyota in Lodi and they'll give you as a good a deal as anywhere in the Bay Area without the hassle.
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    Haven't inquired, but don't think they offer the same buying service here as they do in the States. It would be nice, a great membership reward. Also in the US, some Costco's have gas bars, selling gas much cheaper than anywhere else.
    We sure don't get as much for our membership up here.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    it would be helpful to have an additional discussion on the Hatchbacks or Wagons board for both Matrix and Vibe (enthusiasts) combined.

    I realize you can also compare notes with each other in the separate Matrix and Vibe discussions, but I also thought creating a combined discussion specifically for this purpose might be helpful.... Let me know what you think.

    Also, if you do like the idea, any suggestions for a title: "Matrix & Vibe comparison" or on a more friendly note "Matrix & Vibe Enthusiasts (Shared info.)" Thanks for your input.

    Revka
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  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    I think sunroofs are great things, nothing like fresh air and sunshine. But if you go factory roof than you can not get the DVD, I believe.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Ya, we got a membership for Christmas but I doubt I will re-new it. No way I am getting the membership fee worth out of it. If they had gas, liquor/beer and auto buying up here I would always be a member though!

    Bummer.
  • rljacorljaco Posts: 7
    We are looking at the Matrix. Unlike the Vibe,we have been told by the dealer that roof rails are not available in the Matrix. His only suggestion is that the Toyota parts dept. explore buying them as parts from Pontiac and putting them on at the dealership. We want to use a kayak rack so this is important to us. Has anyone dealt with this, and is the Vibe our only choice if we want roof rails? Also I understand the Vibe has a 5 year warranty whereas Matrix has a 3 year. In terms of the actual coverage of stuff likely to fail, is there a significant added value re warranty for the Vibe? What other significant differences are there between the two vehicles? Thanks.
  • xr_matrixxr_matrix Posts: 96
    rljaco

    You may want to read through the posts in accessories and modifications...there are several posts throughout disucssing roof racks. Summary...Yakima make a rack to fit a Matrix, Thule do not yet. Vibe rack is so far back on the vehicle, it would not serve as a good rack for a kayak, especially a sea kayak...
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    Actually the Matrix is for 5 years (powertrain) and the Vibe has a 3 year warranty. However, 24hr roadside assistance is not offered with Toyota. This feature is only available in Canada.

    Toyota's warranty is as follows;

    Basic Coverage: All components other than normal wear and maintenance items are covered for 36 months/36,000 miles.

    Powertrain Coverage: Your engine, transmission/transaxle, front-wheel drive, rear-wheel drive, seatbelts and air bags are covered for 5 years/60,000 miles.

    Rust-Through Coverage: Corrosion perforation of sheet metal is covered for 60 months/unlimited miles.

    GM's Vibe is;

    Warranty is for 3-years/36,000-miles (whichever comes first) New Vehicle Limited Warranty covers repairs, including labor and parts, to correct any defects in material or workmanship occurring during the warranty period. The vehicle is covered, except for adjustments and normal maintenance.

    All body and sheet metal components are warranted against rust-through corrosion for 6 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first. Application of additional rust-inhibiting materials is not required under the corrosion coverage and none is recommended. See your Pontiac dealer for terms of this and other limited warranties.

    24-hour Roadside Assistance* that provides in an emergency:
    Free lockout assistance
    Free dead-battery assistance
    Free out-of-fuel assistance
    Free flat-tire change
    Free towing for warranty repairs
    Courtesy transportation

    Hope this helps.
  • dlh3dlh3 Posts: 18
    Does anyone have a Matrix with the rear window wiper? Does your rear washer fluid dispenser spray a fan shaped pattern or just send a stream of fluid down the back window? Thanks.
  • scott31scott31 Posts: 280
    I know you can't get the moonroof and Nav on the Vibe, but I can't find anything that says I can't on the Matrix. I need to call the dealer to double check....sigh, decisions, decisions.....
  • tuttaviatuttavia Posts: 7
    I guess the internet division of one of the Toyota dealer may not have been serious a couple of weeks ago when she said "one [xrs] ... should arrive early next week:
    2003 Matrix 2WD XRS Auto: White
    V.I.P Security System
    $20,124"
    I emailed her back and offered her $20,000, out the door (including tax & license, etc.), but I haven't heard back. I was at another dealer where they said they had one, too.
    Regarding XR's, the "no-haggle" Credit Union representative price at a few dealers , a group purchasing arrangement similar to CostCo, has been around $17,500, including Sports Package, 17" tires, auto trans, not including tax & license.
    All I've really been looking for is a decent used wagon, like a late model Accord or Camry, but I can't seem to find one. Minivans are too big for my needs. The Matrix is the closest to what I am looking for -- and then some! I like the one I tried very much, just concerned about having sufficent HPs. Has anyone tried one on the freeway -- did it seem like it could keep up with traffic?
  • MY XR IS DOING WELL ON THE SO. CAL. FREEWAY. LOTS
    OF KICK AND ZIP. NO PROBLEM AT ALL. CRUISE SPEED
    THE MATRIX ENGINE IS VERY QUIET. THE HANDLING REMINDS ME OF MY ACCORD AND 91 ALFA SPIDER VELOCE VERY SPORTY AND NIMBLE. DROVE AROUND STAPLES CENTER AND DOWNTOWN L.A. TODAY, EVERYONE ON THE STREET WERE
    STARING AT THE CAR. MY XR IS FULLY LOADED EXCEPT FOR MOONROOF AND NAVIGATOR OPTIONS. VERY HAPPY SO FAR. IF THE RACING LIMITED EDITION
    MATRIX IS OFFERED I WILL TRADE IT IN MY XR. I NEED TO LOWER THE CAR ONCE THE LOWER SPRINGS ARE AVAILABLE HERE THROUGH MY DEALER
    FOR BETTER PROPORTION AESTHETICLY. CARGO COVER SUCKS, VERY TACKY IMO.
  • TupTup Posts: 200
    Well, I'm not sure if I've used the rear washer yet. I will try it out and let you know. I must say the front washer is about the best I've used in any vehicle. It has 3 jets on each side and the coverage is perfect. I always seem to waste washer fluid in other cars trying to time the spray to when the wiper will carry the fluid over to a place where the sprayers blind spot. I also like the fact that the rear wiper is vinyl and not metal. On a hatchback or wagon or SUV, metal rear wipers rust fairly quickly due to all the salt spray that hits them.
  • tuttaviatuttavia Posts: 7
    Thanks luckyeight, glad to hear about your satisfaction with your XR. Freeway use, with its stop and go as well as long-term higher speeds, has been a concern of mine since the dealers don't usually take you out for a test drive on a freeway -- rush hour traffic wouldn't be too fun anyway. Also, I too like the handling of the Matrix I tried -- I especially noticed the steering around corners and braking to be more responsive than the new Civic I've also tried. To all, and with apologies if any of these topics were covered somewhere around/between message #'s 124 and 130 (I haven't had a chance to read a lot of the first 800 messages):
    - What is the Racing Limited Edition or is there a link to where I can read about it?
    - Will any of the dealers let you get the LoJack security instead of the VIP (once the VIP security option is already listed)? Can I get LoJack from someplace other than a dealer? (The LoJack website doesn't indicate so.)
    - Is there any web resource that has safety or crash test results for the Matrix?
    - Has anyone dealt with North Hollywood Toyota? I'm not in the Valley but their website indicates a 0% financing special on new cars.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I like that site, though some of the people on there reviewing are a bit wacko. Good to combine people reviews with professional.
  • I've used my rear window washer fluid and in just runs down in a straight line, no sprayer.

    On a side note I forgot to mention I went up north last weekend and man the high beams are amazing!!!!!!! I've never sean high beams light up a road so well, Great job Toyota!!!!!
  • My rear window sprayer shoots out in a fan pattern. I was actually worried the first time I saw it because I was expecting a straight line.
  • tuttaviatuttavia Posts: 7
    The AC outlet seems like a great convenience. How long can you use it before you wear down the battery? Would there be a warning signal? Is it different when the car is running vs with the engine off? I have no experience with this, thanks.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Check out this new discussion: Matrix & Vibe Enthusiasts - Compare Notes. For future reference, you'll also find a direct link to this discussion in the Helpful Links on the left side of the page.

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