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Land Rover Freelander

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  • cyd68cyd68 Posts: 9
    Im sorry, this might be a dumb ?, but what kind of attorney did you get for your case? I have never done anything like this before & I am waiting for the class action lawsuit, but I'm not sure thats going to happen. I need a back up plan just in case! My F4 code has came on numerous times & I take it in to LR & they don't have a clue 99.9% of the time. But, yes do yourself a favor & get rid of it while you still can. Ive left mine parked with the keys in it, with hopes of someone stealing it, but no such luck! :confuse:
  • moe71moe71 Posts: 11
    I purchased a 2002 Landrover Freelander SE in 2004, it only had 40,000 miles on it so I thought I was getting a deal. I did all the research and at the time didn't see any issues. Boy was I scammed. It spent the first 3 months at the dealership and essentially had the enginer rebuilt as I was consistenly having a loss of power. Now at 75,000 miles I am having the problem again. My doors won't open with the keyless entry now, except for the driver's side door...and I can't unlock any doors from inside the vehicle. I have to manually open the door from the inside. The driver's side rear passenger window won't open. What next? This can't be happening. I called the dealership and asked if I was covered and the service guy started giving me crap saying I haven't been in for a service. Well they are located 60 miles away and only open till five...I have to work to support the vehicle so I have been keeping up the maintenance locally with a private mechanic. Something needs to be done! :mad:
  • trburtontrburton Posts: 22
    I won a lawsuit against Land Rover in chancery court for $5080 engine repair costs.
    LR will appeal & I need to prove the oil change interval was NOT 6000 miles as testified by the Dealership's service manager. The dealership lost the Passport to Service & I need the page or pages that show the reccommended oil change milage. Can anyone copy & e-mail this info to me at trburton@comcast.net.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,963
    I suppose you could ask the judge to log on to the net and surf to the Edmunds Maintenance Guide.

    It show the Land Rover recommended 12,000 oil change frequency and we get that info straight from the manufacturer.

    If the dealer lost your Passport to Service booklet, why not ask the judge to put the burden on the dealer to find it or they lose their claim that 6,000 miles was the interval?

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • darriagadarriaga Posts: 4
    I just got a 2002 freelander and my right brake light and right headlight dont work i am going to take it in today to get fixed do yall think i should just get rid of it and tell the dealership that i dont want it . I also heard a rattling noise adn they r going to look at that to c what it is .
  • tiredoflrtiredoflr Posts: 40
    YES!!! Return it now while you still can. If you wait......you'll regret it.....they'll make you pay for everything and site that you cannot use the lemon law .....etc....get rid of it now now now, it will be the smartest thing you've ever done! :) :lemon:
  • darriagadarriaga Posts: 4
    I just got the truck on july 21st and it was from a used dealership and i am not sure if they will lwt me return it so i need to ask the guy if he says no what do i do he said he will fix the lights .
  • sripleysripley Posts: 39
    I would tell you to get rid of it, if you can, but not because of the brake light (which may be due to the recalled Brake Light Switch actually will cause that failure --- ironically the only thing recalled on this vehicle thus far), but I would rather get rid of it before you start experiencing the real major problems with this SUV, including head gasket failures at 40,000 miles+, oil & transmission fluid leaks, fuel pump failures, and that's just the first round.
  • darriagadarriaga Posts: 4
    i am going to c if the guy with switch out my truck but i am not sure he will i dont know if there is a law that i can tell him about that within a couple of days i can switch out the truck . I need to talk to him and to c what he says do i have a period of time to turn in the truck or get switched out . I have only had it for 5 days .
  • rgunnrgunn Posts: 17
    Has anyone heard of a head gasket failure without any warning lights coming on? We replaced a head gasket but the check engine light never came on. Maybe someone disconected it. What do you think?
  • sripleysripley Posts: 39
    For my SUV, the Check Engine Soon Light would come on and off intermittantly, and was only when the engine itself was stalling or in reaction to too much coolant having mixed with the oil inside the engine. It is very possible that your Check Engine Soon never lit up from the problem (please note that the other lower Check Engine Light never comes on due to the Head Gasket Issue). On these SUV's, there is not a way of easilly disconnecting any sensors to reset or hide the issue, as a technician showed me the only way to reset the computer is by disconnecting the battery for about 15 minutes and then re-attaching, and even then if the fault persists such as this issue, the Check Engine Soon Light would reappear.

    I would say it is very likely your engine fluids hadnt mixed to a level where the engine was sputtering to a stall, and that is really why that light was coming on (due to stall rather than any way of knowing there was a gasket failure other than physical observation of the coolant overflow level or coolant in the oil observation).

    Just my 2 cents.
  • I still owe money on this car and the repairman says today that it needs a new engine- This car should have lasted longer than this...

    I don't have the money and I still owe money... what do I do now? This Class action has been on and off for such a long time and I don't have the time to wait for this... I still need transportation and this just doesn't cut it.... help I am desperate at this point....
  • trburtontrburton Posts: 22
    Who is your creditor? How many miles on auto? I just won a repair suit in local court & Ford Credit did not appeal. I had special circumstances occur which made me win the suit but lose my credit. What state are you in?
  • fosbrookfosbrook Posts: 1
    Our 2003 Freelander engine just stopped while 200 miles from home over the 4th of July weekend. We have had all the some problems, coolant smell, heater core, unkown coolant leak.....

    The Landrover dealer in Alaska went out of business but the certified mechanic indicated the only thing to to is replace the engine for $7,000+. We don't want to replace the engine when it appears that we might have the same problems.

    Any suggestions on what can be done? Go to Landrover headquarters or Ford Headquarters with compliant? Sell the car as is? All I know is that I am without a car and still have a payment....(not with Ford Credit)...

    ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BECUASE IT WILL BE SNOWING SOON AND WE DON'T HAVE GREAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

    :sick:
  • trburtontrburton Posts: 22
    If you spend $7000 you now have a running, until the transmission goes, auto worth $7000. If you sell it for $3000, you can buy a $10000 auto that works.
  • sripleysripley Posts: 39
    My advice would be to contact your credit company and make them aware of the problem. You absolutely should not replace the engine, as the engines have been discontinued and the only remanufactured ones out there all will have the same defect as what you have now.

    I would probably suggest buying a different car. If you owe a substantial amount on the 2003 Freelander, you may seriously want to think about whether to trade it and transfer the balance owed on the vehicle to the new vehicle you buy or whether you are better off buying the new vehicle and then let the 2003 Freelander just go behind on payments and let the credit company go and get it.

    None of this is easy, it's as if you are trapped with vehicle and your credit is the most important thing you stand to lose. Just know that replacing the engine will only cost you money and another failure in the future, these engines are design flaws, just that simple. Its a shame no recall will ever happen to make us whole for the vehicles we have that no longer work.

    You may want to speak to an attorney and see if they can offer a suggestion for possibly suing the dealership or any other option to breach the purchase agreement (if a lemon law or other had been violated with these vehicles).
  • roverwoesroverwoes Posts: 1
    I am in sort of the same boat here....I bought a 2004 Freelander 6 months ago and now it needs a new engine at 53000 miles! I am in shock! I thought Land Rover was a reputable car manufacturer and was happy to have gotten a "deal" although now I owe a ton of money on it and it needs almost $7000 in repairs! I don't even want it anymore after reading about all the problems! The dealer said "this is a common problem" A common problem for the engine to go at 53000 miles! IF this is a common problem shouldn't there have been a recall- this is a dangerous thing--and really without warning! I don't know what to do- no warranty as far as miles go but the 4 year mark is today! Just cannot afford to do this...HELP ME
  • kimc13kimc13 Posts: 5
    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

    Everyone please make sure your logging a complaint with NHTSA, this is how recalls happen! If we don't do it, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Trust me I know what everyone is going through. I have had my FL since June 06 and have driven it maybe 6 months of the time. I pay my car payment and insurance every month on a truck I cant drive! Its either I screw my already screwed up credit even more or suck it up.

    I have been dealing with this for 2 years! I cant afford to fix it if I continue to make the payments. It just sucks!

    Please use the address above and use it in every post you write so that newcomers can also see it. This is our best bet at this point.

    Please, please, please make sure we keep telling everyone about it!

    I truly feel sorry for all of you that are going through this. I will keep this situation at the top of my prayer list!
  • Well, I am one of you guys. My Freelander has been sitting at Landrover since Dec. 21, 2007 without an engine. I have only been told that there are not any engines to be had. My car is fortunately under an extended warranty through Carmax, I have been reading all of these same problems and have begun to wonder if some of you that were willing to pay for or if you had a warranty ever got an engine? We have only been by LR to see our car twice since Dec., once in March (it just looked broken down) and then last weekend. When we drove by Landrover last weekend we found our car unlocked with the entire broken engine in the inside cab (on top of personal belonging that we had left thinking we would get our vehicle back soon) of our SUV along with a corroded battery in the floorboard. We were furious, we took pictures and went to Carmax since they are who we have the warranty with. They were also quite shocked at what they saw. Carmax made a visit to Landrover the next day and Landrover says that is how they store parts while they are waiting on parts. Probably not a good practice. Carmax contacted Landrover USA or whoever and is still waiting on a response. Landrover did change to a happier tune when they found out it was a customers personal warranty and not LR's. So this is why I am wondering if anyone has even received an engine, particularly one of the so called new ones. Like I said we are still waiting on LR to respond to Carmax. We just want to get rid of it, especially now that a dirty, oily, corroded engine and battery have been closed up in it throughout the summer heat. At this point we are counting on Carmax to do the right thing since it is there warranty that we bought and we all know that Landrover will not do the right thing. :mad: :sick:
  • Well, I am one of you guys. My Freelander has been sitting at Landrover since Dec. 21, 2007 without an engine. I have only been told that there are not any engines to be had. My car is fortunately under an extended warranty through Carmax, I have been reading all of these same problems and have begun to wonder if some of you that were willing to pay for or if you had a warranty ever got an engine? We have only been by LR to see our car twice since Dec., once in March (it just looked broken down) and then last weekend. When we drove by Landrover last weekend we found our car unlocked with the entire broken engine in the inside cab (on top of personal belonging that we had left thinking we would get our vehicle back soon) of our SUV along with a corroded battery in the floorboard. We were furious, we took pictures and went to Carmax since they are who we have the warranty with. They were also quite shocked at what they saw. Carmax made a visit to Landrover the next day and Landrover says that is how they store parts while they are waiting on parts. Probably not a good practice. Carmax contacted Landrover USA or whoever and is still waiting on a response. Landrover did change to a happier tune when they found out it was a customers personal warranty and not LR's. So this is why I am wondering if anyone has even received an engine, particularly one of the so called new ones. Like I said we are still waiting on LR to respond to Carmax. We just want to get rid of it, especially now that a dirty, oily, corroded engine and battery have been closed up in it throughout the summer heat. At this point, we are counting on Carmax to do the right thing since it is their warranty that we bought and we all know that Landrover will not do the right thing.
  • rgunnrgunn Posts: 17
    I have a 2002 Freelander. I purchased a warrenty with mine also. I had a new head gasket put on a few months ago. The shop said that Landrover recomended a new engine instead of just puting the gasket on. The warrenty company said they would not cover a new motor. My Landrover has been running since the head gasket was put on, But I dont know for how long. I dont go far in it because Im afraid the motor will heat up to much. I noticed to that if I do have to drive it alot It is starting to vibrate and losing power again. That was my first sing something was wrong with it. We are trying to hang on to it a little longer so we can get it paid down some so we can maybe trade it in. I did contact a lawer when it first started acting up. He said he could only help us if the warrenty company didnt cover the repair. Well they covered the gasket which was only a temporary fix of course. So for right now I am s**t out of luck. oh and also our warrenty comp. does not cover LR any more.
  • Our LR first started overheating, taking about 10 to 15 minutes to cool down and when checked the coolant would be empty. I was then constantly having to fill it with coolant. I had it in to the shop 3 times for this same problem when after the second time they apparantly fixed it so well they caused the coolant to leak into the engine and that caused the traction control to go out and then they said that was because the engine was now gone. Although we did actually drive it into Carmax who then drove it to Land Rover. I would dump it now! Ours has been sitting for over 8 months with no new engine in sight. Although, warranty money is waiting to pay for it. Land Rover takes no responsibility in this.
  • rgunnrgunn Posts: 17
    I just talked to a mechanic that is from the U.K. He said that U.K. had a recall on the Landrover motors. Does anyone know anything about this?
  • :confuse: So i bought my freelander seven months ago and i have had no problems except the engine light goes off and on it has don this about three times, curently its off but why does it keep going off and on? the orginal owner only put about fifty thousand miles on it and it has never had any problems...... yet....this forum scares me i think im going to sell it
  • I believe the UK engine was a 4 Cylinder Gas. The V6 in US Freelanders I think was only sold in the US. The same engine ( but probably made in Korea, some have said China) is/was put in Kia Sorento's & the Kia van. Remember, the Freelander transmission is just as bad as the engine. In fact my transmission failed at 45,000 miles and the engine lasted an incredable 55,000 miles.
  • Sell it! Now!
  • Just found this on the net: "Interesting comment on this is a related bit of information from aus.cars. In a post there it is revealed that the Australian distributors have replaced (under warranty) the engines in 40% of the now superseded Kia Carnivals sold in Australia. They were fitted with Rover K series V6 engines............."
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  • I agree you should sell or trade the vehicle in as soon as you can, I had an '03 that started with the check engine light at around that mileage.

    The Check Engine Soon light comes on and off for a variety of reasons, but if your SUV is having the Head Gasket Failure issue (where coolant will get into your engine block, you or someone you know who knows about cars/trucks need only check under the oil cap where you will usually see some coagulated oil and coolant mixture and you should also notice your coolant overflow level dropping more often than usual as the problem progresses) that issue will cause your check engine light to come on and off periodically as the cylinders stick and motor slowly gets more and more damaged from that. You may get as long as a year with the head gasket failure problem, but it gets progressively worse.

    If the Check Engine Light is for a different issue, such a Gas Fuel Pump Clogged or other engine issue, that light usually stays on continually. In my vehicles case, the Check Engine Light would go on and off more and more frequently as the coolant leak worsened, as that Light resets after the engine runs fine for like 10 miles without an engine fault.

    There's nothing you can do to fix the problem if it is that. It requires a new engine and there is no replacement engines without the problem out there, that they discontinued the vehicle and the engine. And, most likely the previous owner new about the problem, you should ask whoever you bought it from what he was aware of, if he will even say.

    Bottom line, trade it in if you dont owe too much or paid cash. Good Luck, I know how aggravating the whole thing is and feel like a damn car expert after my experience.
  • We have been told that LR is now trying to produce a new engine out of Japan. What have you heard? Is my information a lie? We have been waiting since Dec.2007. We have an extended warranty through Carmax. :confuse:
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