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Nissan Altima

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  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Yeah, that makes sense. Give the car power windows and locks, but not AC. Ugh!
  • "BTW, all 2002-2003 Altimas have had power windows standard, regardless of model trim"

    Must have changed this during the 2002 run, because I saw and touched the manual windows in a base Altima 2.5 a year ago.

    Anyway, I looked at Nissandriven.com, and they don't list A/C as an option for the 2.5 model. Who will buy it?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    You would have to have AC dealer installed in the car. It's the same way with Hondas that don't come standard with AC. And the dealer usually charges $1450 for it. The ones here in MD do anyway. For that price, you might as well upgrade to the next higher model with AC standard.
  • I live in South Florida, and I dont think any car manufacturer dares to send cars without A/C to this part of the country or they will sit on the dealer lot for a VERY long time. They might as well send them without engines.
  • I just bought a 2002 gold or shall I say "velvet beige" Altima 2.5S. I like the car but I had a problem one week after I bought it. I couldn't get the darn thing to start! The key would turn but the engine wouldn't. Only if I put the gearshift in neutral would it start. I took it back to the dealer and they had to make an "adjustment" to something. They said it was on a technical bulletin from Nissan and that it was a common problem. I wonder why they didn't fix it BEFORE they sold me the car.
  • The 2.5 w/o air probably will sell well in Canada and the Pacific NW.
  • We had 39 days of 90 degree + temperatures this summer in Eastern Ontario, probably 45+ days in Southern Ont. Add in the humidex readings and it's been one hot summer. I doubt anyone (other than people on a really tight budget) would buy a midsized car without AC in this part of Canada.

    My $0.02
  • I just picked up my new '03 2.5SL. They really have improved the interior from the first '02s that I saw. The dark wood finish is much nicer, and the leather actually feels a bit softer.

    I haven't had any problem so far during the 1st 30Kms (20 Miles) ;->
  • Looks like they went ahead and upgraded the Altima's interior. Kinda makes me regret buying my 02 SI a couple of weeks ago. But the SI is still $5,000 cheaper than an Altima so I can't complain too loud.
  • Just bought a 2003 2.5 S with sunroof, ABS, some other stuff. Test drive was great, even with the 4 the car seems peppy enough, and I like how the car fits you when you sit in it. Taking delivery on Sunday. :)
  • ahossaahossa Posts: 152
    How much did yu pay? Was the car any quieter than the 02? If you test drove the 02.Did you finance? What percentage rate did you get?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I thought you totalled your Si? Did you get another one already?
  • I had the accident on Aug. 23 which was a Friday and by Wednesday the insurance company had offered me a settlement for the car. As soon as I found out how much they were giving me I went and both another one just like the one I wrecked.
  • pda97pda97 Posts: 88
    Did Nissan really improved the 03 Altima's interior ? I stopped by a local dealer and looked thru the closed window of a parked 03 Altima and couldn't tell the difference except for the titanium accent. What are the improvements compared to the 02 models ?? 03 owners care to comment ? I read somewhere that Nissan will wait until 05 to "substantially" upgrade the Altima's interior to give it an upscale feel. Why wait that long ?
  • Last night we dropped by a local Nissan dealer to see if they had any 350Z's and they had an 03 Altima in the showroom. It looks like they tried to upgrade it a little but it's still nothing to talk about. The armrest still feels cheesy and there is still no texture to the dash. Although they did place some soft-touch inserts on the door armrest .. but it's still not enough for a car that stickers for $29,000.
  • I read all these complaints about the interior and think "What's the big deal?"

    I wish all the complainers would realize that the Altima is essentially an "entry level" car. It's designed to sell for $18-$20,000. What can you expect for that price range? The fact that in the SE model they shoe-horned in a powerful engine doesn't make it a $29,000 car, no matter what some people are willing to pay. Like any good business, Nissan figures there's a sucker born every minute, and some people prove them right. That's not a knock on the car.

    For $20K it's a great car, and very well equipped. I haven't seen a better one in that price range, unless you're willing to buy a used car.

    My guess: when they upgrade the interior, they will upgrade the price accordingly. The immutable law of economics is that you get what you pay for.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    I was under the impression that the Sentra would be Nissans entry level car. The Altima has to go up against the Camry and the Accord in the family size segment of the market. After owning 2 Camrys and now the owner of a '01 Altima, Nissan has finally got the interior size up to par. Our Altima is quite a bit smaller than our '93 and '96 Camrys were.

    All Nissan has to do now is to get their fit and finish up to Toyota and Honda levels and I think they will finally have a real winner with the Altima!

    The Sandman :-)
  • ahossaahossa Posts: 152
    The interior is a bit better but not much. The car is noisy. The Manager told me they added seals around the doors and windows to mute the road noise but I didn't notice the difference. Other than that it basically the same car as the 02 model. It seems Nissan didn't listen to the complaints.
  • I use the term "entry level" with respect to price. I see base-model Altimas at $18,000. I also see Sentras on the lot for $19-$20,000 (i.e. SE-R models, etc.). So, it is clear to me that there is significant price overlap between these two cars, indicating that they are both essentially entry level cars.

    I drove a nearly base-level Camry (at about $18,500). Other than the styling, which was boooooooring, it was gutless. Yes, the Camry interior was finished better than the Altima. The Altima's exterior fit and finish are just as good as the Honda and Toyota entries. I compared paint finish and seams between doors, etc. I've done some paint and body work, and these cars are all about the same - remarkably good for the price.

    So, you pays your money and you takes your choice. Sorry, but you don't get everything on a car that sells for $18-20K. With the Altima, you trade some interior quality for more performance (power and handling) and better exterior styling. It's a trade-off I'd make again.
  • I'll take a $20,000 Accord LX with 160HP, 34MPG, and an excellent exterior AND interior fit and finish before I'd pay $20,000 for the Altima. 20HP isn't going to make that much of a difference if you hate the interior of the car. A Camaro has almost 300HP and I have not yet been tempted to buy one.
  • Well only got to see a 4Cyl Cloth. What's up with the sunroof switch on the dash? The left side of the steering wheel at that. Just imagine trying to open the roof to wave your children bye as you leave the house. Hands all over the place.
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    And the tilt/telescope wheel is one lever. The Altima uses two. So everytime you get in and lower (like I do) the wheel, you don't have to set both. And it isn't spring loaded like the Altima's. And it doesn't tilt very much either. They need to go back to the drawing board on that.
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    Goose neck hinges on the trunk, small trunk at that.
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    Only prop rod on the 4cyl.
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    And where did the rear end of the car go? It looks chopped off at the rear.
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    And the center console cover seems lifted from 1980.
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    And now it looks like these transmission problems are going to cause this new introduction to have a poor reliability rating just like the Civic and Odyssey.
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    Definately a big YUK.

    I expected so much more. I'm liking the Altima more every day.
  • Can't you come up with a different Accord bashing post? Must you reuse the same one. Some originality here ...

    This is the Altima forum so I won't respond here and I already responded to this same post over in the Accord forum.
  • I just bought one. I also compared it to my friend's Camry. I have the 2.5SL and the interior seems to be a weird mix of good and bad. The leather seats & trim, bose stereo are very good. The dashboard & other materials are pretty bad. I found the noise & ride to be very close to the camry(which says alot). I also thought the pricetag was much better. I saw the new accord before I purchased. I thought it was a beautiful vehicle until I got around to the rear. Whoa...kind of reminds me of how poor a job nissan did on the rear of the previous altima. No need for a V6. I think the package I got for the price can't be beat. However, had I purchased a 30k model, the interior materials would've been totally unacceptable. I think that's where you'll see the difference between the Altima and the Camrys & Accords. A top of the line Camry or Accord interior has a higher standard of materials. Hey Nissan, when you put leather in a vehicle cover the doggone shifter with it!
  • If you don't mind - what is yours equipped with and what did you have to pay? How close to invoice? Thanks Much!
  • ahossaahossa Posts: 152
    I found the Altima ride to be a lot noiser than the Camry. I love The Altima. I wish it were a bit quieter.
  • I know that experience with my 1998 Altima has nothing to do with 2002 one, but I just want to say that when I've changed tires it made whole world of a difference. When I had stock General tires I always thought that car is very noisy. After original tires worn out, I switched to Michelin X-One. I've done test drives of new Camry and 2002 Accord and road noise of my Altima with Michelin was practically as quiet as Camry and MUCH more quiet than Accord. After those test drives I've decided to keep my Altima longer, although was ready to replace it.
  • I think its time to go back to honda land now, where they have the best cars ever made in the the the whole wide world. ;)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Do I laugh or wet myself now??? :)
  • pda97pda97 Posts: 88
    Honda has "spies" on every forum. They wanna make sure nobody badmouths the sacred Honda name behind their backs ! Gotta make sure the Honda myth is spread.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I went looking for a used Honda the other day, because my best friend wrecked his car. He wanted a Civic, but only had $10K cash to spend. I told the salesman this on the used lot, asking about a 98+ Civic. He said all he had was a 1996 Accord with 80K miles on it. He said Hondas last and hold their value, and you get what you pay for. I asked how many people wanted their Civics recalled when they bought them. He didn't have a response.

    I don't like the attitude of Honda dealers, most of them being cockey and arrogant. I figure if they are doing that well, they don't need my money.
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