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Nissan Altima



  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    "... in order I'd rank it like this: active safety (accident avoidance), safety cage/structures, and only then passive restraints."

    Understood, and appreciate the explanation. I think every buyer needs to make a personal decision and weigh what they want. In my own case, I don't try to rank them as much as I try to balance them. The reason is that I worry more about the accident I can't avoid -- e.g. getting t-boned at an intersection by a driver running a red light (hence my interest in side-impact crashworthiness and side curtain airbags), getting hit in general by a drunk driver, etc. Unfortunately, a great AWD system and great braking won't help in a lot of those cases, and you have to fall back on structure and passive devices.
  • bigzheng17bigzheng17 Posts: 81
    just wondering how is your subaru doing. i recently included legacy into my list, but not sure about it's reliability. also do you think the 165hp engine is good enough? compare to 175 in altima and 200 in accord v6, it's seems a little small.
  • implicitimplicit Posts: 41
    is happy with their purchase now. I certainly am! After seeing those crash tests scores I hope everyone can rest easy now. All the complaints about how light the car seems and its cheapness certainly doesn't pertain. My Altima is a 2.5S basically fully loaded with ABS and Air bag package, convienence package, bose, sunroof but no leather cause I don't care for it and would rather not have it.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    I second the O2 sensor. We have a 95 with 140k on it and the light has come on a couple of times. Both times was due to the sensor. I have my work done at a private shop, not at a dealer. Cost me about $120 +/- (I can't remember exactly).
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    To prevent being T-boned in an intersection, you just have to rely on excellent situational awareness, and that's up to the driver. Try riding a motorcycle and you learn that skill rather quickly!

    The Legacy is fine, we did have the dealer lube the accelerator pedal, which seemed stiff, but otherwise it's been perfect. Experience with my '98 Forester (which I still have) says Subies hold up well.

    165hp is fine, remember, even recently the top Altima offered 150 or so. Accord still has 150hp in this price range (V6 is way, WAY more than I paid), and Camry has 157. Altima is definitely the quickest here, but the wife seems to accumulate one speeding ticket every couple of years or so.

    But it might have been the wagon bodystyle that sealed the deal. We could fit the stroller inside and still had room left to change a diaper behind it, all while under shelter from the rain. Plus you can fit a box about 4 times bigger, plus a roof rack expands capacity even further, there is no comparison.

  • ahossaahossa Posts: 152
    I don't know how many of you saw the actual Dateline crash tests but O'Neal noted that he wished many more manufacturers of mid priced cars would put the side air bags as an option as Nissan did with the Altima. Quite frankly, I thought the Altima would have done worse because of the cost cutting and the use of aluminum on the hood and trunk and engine.Now i hope the correct the interior and road noise for the 03 model
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Im interested to know why you would think that aluminum would be less able to manage crash forces. I also find it a bit strange that you would somehow correlate an aluminum block engine with a poorer crashworthiness. In any case, I agree with the IIHS statement that even in frontal crashes (severe ones), side head protection airbags should inflate to restrain dummy motion.. this seems like a no-brainer, so I wonder why we dont see more systems (in those vehicles so equipped)inflating in the IIHS test.
  • bigzheng17bigzheng17 Posts: 81
    i really like the awd of subaru, but since i don't see a lot of them on street (at least not here), i got a bit worried about why people are not buying it. i'll probably transfer to a college in canada in one or two years from south u.s., so awd does look very nice.
  • implicitimplicit Posts: 41
    Isn't aluminum weaker then steel or iron? The last time I heard it was. I think it's more he inner structure and cage of the car that prevents the crash then the hood and engine.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    jz: people buy Outbacks, Legacys are almost invisible. *sigh*

    It'll be interesting to see the new Murano, though it looks like prices will put it against high-end Highlanders.

  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    If my memory from structural analysis in college serves me right, steel (not an alloy or treated in a special manner) does NOT have the same strength as aluminum. The strength to weight ratio of aluminum is much higher than steel. The difficulty with aluminum is the welding/connection process. Audi has been able to work out a majority of the problems in co-operation with Alcoa. They use this technology on their A8. I believe they are also looking to let this technology trickle down to some of their other products. Probably to help in their pursuit of becoming a head to head competitor of BMW.
  • obiwankenobi1obiwankenobi1 Posts: 290
    In a flat 4-cylinder configuration by Subaru is smoooooooth!

    I got to drive an 02 Forester at my last job and it had the smoothest 4 banger I had ever experienced.

  • cnackcnack Posts: 7
    Thanks jmfreshour and porknbeans for the suggestions. Sounds like I need to break down and spend some $ to get it fixed. :(
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Cool job, I'd love a company car! :-)

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I loved the days when I was an assistant fleet manager of an engineering company. I was all of 20 years old, and running around town in cars like Explorer Eddie Bauers and Volvos. I just knew I was hot stuff, having a different car every other day. Boy, I miss those days. :(
  • I WISH it was a company car, but I sold vehicles for an auto broker, so I experienced quite a few drives in cheap to exotic vehicles.

    Cheapest New Test Drive: 2001 Toyota Echo :(
    Most Expensive New Car Test: 2001 Porsche Turbo :)

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  • implicitimplicit Posts: 41
    Alone as a metal I don't think Aluminum is stronger then steel. What makes it stronger is when it crumples. When the metal folds into its self it strengthens.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    Thank you, I stand corrected.
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