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He also has '03s (including that wonderful blue!) now that he offers at $16,500...it is almost tempting enough to make me sell my car that is only a year old!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
After that, I went to a few dealers near by to get same deal, but they sold all or most 02 SIs with 'blow-out sale' in November when they got allocation for 03 cars, and did not want to do it any more. Although, a few dealers like Gardena Honda is still advertizing them for $14,988, which I have never comfirmed.
Do you think it worth to wait ? I do not know, but using common sense, I think the price will not go down any more, once new year came. ???
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Today would be a great day to buy with it being the last day of 1.9% financing.
To blow out almost all 02 cars to order 03 cars does not make sense. I thought Honda makes allocation and dealers do not have choice.
Cost is an issue to me. Since I will be able to keep the new car only for 2 years (I have to go back to my country in 2 years), I am very concerned about ''initial cost - resale after 2 years''. Considering big discounted price and Honda reputation, I think 02 Si will be a good buy for this formula.?? Big discounted PT cruiser was also on my list, but I did not like its cheap engine and ride. Next to 02 Si, $12,998 03 Mustang is on my list, though I do not know if this price is still available.
My next car will replace my 96 Grand Voyager(this must be surprising to you all, but Mini vans and Wagons are the two Hottest category in my country), which is very unreliable and costly.
Theres nothing in common between those two cars.
A lot of folks who shop for the Si also consieder the Focus SVT, Sentra SpecV, Tiburon or wait for the hot Neon SRT-4.
Hatch5 - Were it me, I'd want the top of the line Civic over the middling 'Stang. Were it simply residual value after 2 years, I'd think used beater.
http://www.honda.ca/HondaEng/Models/Default.htm
Seats for four? That's quite a stretch.
Sporty image? How about having 4 wheels, engine in front and using gas? Starting to sound similar to me too.
Just because the www.honda.ca website is not updated does not mean the dealers do not get updated cars for 2003.
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I really doubt that you will convince any Si owners in this topic to convert to Mustang ownership so please don't try;)
Do you happen to know what the wheel size and offset are for the 2002-3 Si?
The stock rims are 20 lbs.
The side view of that Mustang is nice but I don't like the rest of it. Plus, from the looks of those pictures that Mustang will be no where near the price of my SI. Regardless though, there is no Ford in my immediate future. I did love this 00 Mustang GT that I drove down from DC one time. 5-speed, leather, Mach .. it was nice and fast. Drove great too.
I liked my '89 5.0, an LX hatch, a bunch. It did have a fix-or-repair-daily quality, ate rear tires, and was a ticket machine. Even so, it would pull a trailer and scoot most pleasantly.
The '99 Si was the first FWD I could tolerate. Actually, the '02's torque feels more 'Stangy to me; and I'm glad there's so little torque steer. Dunno what I'd do if the '02-'03 Si weren't available; I hate buying used cars, and there's not much out there new that really appeals to me. I figure I'd have to double my price range and shop hard.
That is tire size, not wheel size.
The blue color is the second best on the Si IMHO with the Milano Red my favorite. Not my blue Si but it sure looks good with those wheels.
Revka
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I think the HB looks great from the front and the rear in any color. From the side, the curves seem to disappear when the colors get more intense.
Sorta like me, I guess, wearing the black T's after holiday pigging out; conceal that curve around the middle.
I prefer the black. We aren't very hard on our cars so it should be fine.
We're renowned for 'good' drivers here, LOL; and I figure I'll be grateful more than once.
I likes it! I likes it!
I'm just glad ABS comes in the package, LOL. I'm an old f--t whose first driving was at a time when adding a radio was a serious decision and AC and power locks, windows, and mirrors were luxuries for wealthy folk.
I am over 30 years old and want a car mostly for commuting. I was looking for a ''fun to drive'' car with comfort, so Si was perfect.
I liked it very much because it is compliant which some people do not appreciate at all. Maybe Honda should import a couple of thousand of type R and let people chose.
By the way, if you live in LA area, Gardena Honda is good!! Sale people there are normal people unlike those at other dealers.
Yeah, the parking brake situation is scary. I made it a point to always leave it in gear even on flat roads.
I'm sure you'll make a few thousand trading in the 02 Si like you did w/ the 00 Si since the 02 Si is the best car in the segment w/ the excellent match of 15" rims and huge 160HP for the hatchback body style. Not forgetting the H logo in front of the car means it has excellent reliability and resale value also. When Mazda6 comes out in summer, your less than 1 year old pristine condition 02 Si will be sold for at least $2k more than what you and anony paid.
It rolled down a hill into a vacant lot in a subdivision we were looking at. We are in the market for a new house. Just testing the waters.
Funny you should mention hatchbacks and 160 hp. The Mazda6 also has 160 hp in a hatch. But mine will have the sport package and 17" wheels.
hamproof- I've already been offered more for my Si on trade than what I paid for it. And the price on the car I was looking at was excellent and not increased to show a good trade value on the Si. Why would I want a different vehicle? My elbow is hurting. I dislocated my elbow some years ago and the Si shift position is causing some awful pain. Either the pain goes or the Si will.
I can imagine both of them running (if they tried) down the hill after the little white car. I wish I could be there to see it. And if Consumer Reports was there, they'll rig the car to make it explode on impact or run over an old lady like they did to Suzuki Samurai (rollover), Audi 400?? (unintended acceleration), GM/FORD (??) exploding gas tank via explosive. Reputation of Honda down the drains.
Anyway, on to the 99/00 Si. I find it hard to believe that you were offered more on your trade in than what you purchased the car at. I guess it depends on how you look at it. In anony case which she divulge later, she had a trade in to get her 00 Si. So, that kinda explains the lower price she got on her Si coz' the dealer made money on the trade.
In your case if you are trading in to get another car from them, it could be they are making money (I presume) a lot from your trade in car to offer top money for your used 99/00 Si. But that doesn't seem to be the case since you said you were given a very good price on the new car you are looking at.
If that's not the case, maybe you bought your used Si at a very very good price.
If you bought it new, it would have cost about $17k before taxes back in 99/00. Possibly more if the dealership was firm on the price and you wanted the car bad. Now, if you are telling me the dealership is giving you $17,001, I find it hard to believe.
Even than, unless you paid cash, once you figured in taxes, interest on loan etc. no one really makes any money on any car unless you sold the car to someone who must have the car, like when the PT Cruiser when it first came out or the new Mini Cooper.
So, if you factored in taxes etc. you are looking at about $18k for a brand new 99/00 Si back in 99/00. There's no way any dealers will give you that much for your used 99/00 Si. If you found one, I say buy more used 99/00 Si and sell em!