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Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon

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  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    It will fit and since the owners manual does not "not recommend towing" your warranty will be intact. Only problem is the wiring harness. Also you might have to trim the rear bumper although I'm not even sure you'd need to do that.

    -mike
  • ltcolumboltcolumbo Posts: 40
    Thanks for the feedback. So, DOES the Imprezza hitch FIT, but it is not recommended, or is some MINOR cutting of the bumper needed? IF Subaru decides to "allow" a hitch will they make a new hitch or just tell you to cut your bumper and use the Imprezza hitch, or modify the hitch to fit BOTH? Of course adding an aftermarket hitch (bolt on) in itself should NOT "cause a problem." Thanks again for your help!!
  • ponmponm Posts: 139
    tow anything with the wrx, considering towing puts large amounts of strain on an engine creating a high engine temperature. In addition, the turbo already increases the temperature inside the engine.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    But I wouldn't worry if I absolutely needed to tow something. Since you are covered on the warranty either way.

    -mike
  • cinosweivecinosweive Posts: 166
    I attached a Yakima fork-mount roof rack to my wagon to check the fit. The tray for the rear wheel extended just a bit past the tailgate so that the spoiler would end up hitting the tray when the tailgate was opened. Maybe, depending upon the bike's wheelbase, you can cut the rack's tray a bit and everything will work, I don't know. I have heard of people mounting their bikes and the rack backwards, but my bike shop doesn't recommend that as the rack apparently isn't designed to hold 80mph wind loads in that direction.

    Patti - it seems most people here only want a trailer hitch for a bike rack anyway. Could you find out if the Impreza hitch will fit without any modifications to the car (like cutting the bumper)?
  • Here's a url that shows the installation for the factory hitch. As you can see the only snag is the wiring harness. Like many others, I only want the hitch for a bike rack. I hope this is helpfull.


    http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?s=86c3d4a3f2402eb2c71cd305114bb92f&threadid=192

  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    After looking at the pics, I realized the guy has the Yakima round bars w/lockable towers like I have and not the OEM crossbars (flat by Yakima). The round bars allow you to place the bikes wider than the tailgate is when opened, hence no rubbing.


    http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103002&highlight=bike+rack+pics


    Stephen

  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,679
    Interesting to note that some roof rack accessories can cause problems in terms of opening the rear hatch.

    Bob
  • cinosweivecinosweive Posts: 166
    I was told that if you mount the bike rack on the outside of the side rails, then you can't lock the rack to the bars.
  • saintvipersaintviper Posts: 177
    Some bike mounts lock directly to the bars no matter where you mount them. The Yakima Viper does this and can not be removed when locked even when mounted outside the towers. Others can slide right off even when locked when mounted outside the towers, so they have to be mounted inside.
  • hgutsteinhgutstein Posts: 65
    It is not a subie standard part is it?
  • stevesr0stevesr0 Posts: 24
    I had made plans to get a WRX from one dealer, but when their March order came in, they couldn't get a red one.

    I took another look at the dealerships in my state (NJ) and found a red, MT S/W but with a lot of options that I didn't really need. They advertised only an MSRP $25K (compared to the $22.3K) on the one I had ordered, so I didn't think they would match the offer.

    I called them yesterday anyway and the salesman checked with his manager who OK'd the price, if I got in before they sold it to someone else.

    I went in today and after looking at it (pretty color) and driving it, paid for it with a credit card and drove off. The financial person was non-hassling (offered a 9K mi extension of warranty with guaranteed immediate free loaner for $99 and etching for $189 but didn't pressure us).

    Drove off and it is sitting in my yard far away from where anyone visiting us should drive their vehicle. It was a 60 mile drive -- the car felt "solid". Have to rebuild my shifting skills but looking forward to exploring this car.

    Dealer is Pine Belt Subaru in Lakewood, NJ. The price was (by my calculations) $800 below invoice ($2900 below MSRP) including all options.

    Steve
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Congratulations Steve! Fun times ahead, and good weather to enjoy them as well.

    -Colin
  • ltcolumboltcolumbo Posts: 40
    What size is the receiver? I have a bike rack with a 2" slider and was wondering if it will fit.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I believe it's 1.5 at the biggest. It is not a full 2" one, you'll need an adapter for it to fit. I did meet someone at an I-club meet with a hitch on his WRX wagon, and there was no cutting of the bumper.

    -mike
  • stevesr0stevesr0 Posts: 24
    Thanks for good wishes.

    Looking forward to becoming familiar with this little red car.

    Steve
  • artgeckoartgecko Posts: 78
    Hi list,
    My title arrived Saturday, so I got my plates and some plate covers. went to put them on today and ran into a little problem. No place to mount the front plates! When I took off the rear temporary tag, I saw that there were two Nylon inserts for the self threading screws at the top, but no holes for the bottom. Is this how those of you with front plates have yours mounted? If so, my dealer forgot to give me the inserts.

    I ended up taking some spare screws and sandwiching the frame, cover, and rear plate together with the bottom screw holes, and then used the supplied screws to mount the whole shebang with the top holes. This shouldn't rattle, and looks OK. I'll do the same when I get the front fasteners or whatever is used.

    Still waiting on a call-back or questionaire about the dealer's performance. Audi and Ford both called within the first week or two. it has been almost a month with Subaru. How long 'till they call from you guys experience.

    Still waiting on the cargo liner I ordered Feb 13th, too.

    I did get the SCCA info, stickers, card, etc today and Saturday. Looking for someone in the area who does Solo II to go along with to Akron. First week in April. Then I'll see how bad these tires really are. Local chapter says D production. I thought the WRX was in one of the new street classes?

    Steve
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Steve (how many of you are there? -- grin),

    you can compete in D Stock (DS) or a new provisional class called Street Touring X (STX). you should buy a rulebook to learn all the specifics, but the major differences between the two are allowed modifications-- stock very little, STX quite a bit-- and that stock can use any DOT legal tire and STX uses 'real' street tires with treadwear at least 140.

    honestly if you're on street tires you'll probably be closer to the pack in STX, assuming some seriously prepped DS cars are present. warning though, RE92s are terrible for autocross.

    -Colin
  • artgeckoartgecko Posts: 78
    Thanks for the info. The SCCA kit included the form to order the general race regs and the Solo book, so I plan to get both.


    Mine's bone stock with the exception of a removed resonator. (Oh, and the removed Impreza logo, and installed shift knob and trim.)


    STX - That was the new one I was trying to remember. I saw something about it in the latest Grassroots Motorsports magazine, I think.


    As for the tires...well, the sooner I wear them out, the sooner I can get new ones! I think I've just about exceeded my excuse of "well both of my cars and all the accessories still don't cost as much as yours..." I think by now they do.


    One 2002 WRX + one 1958 MGA + goodies for both = one 2001 Audi A6.


    And I think the Steve/Stephen population now exceeds the Dave quotient on this list.


    Steve


    http://homepage.mac.com/subaruwrx/

    http://my.en.com/~smorris/mga/

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Good plan on wearing out the stock tires fast. Smart.

    You will brutalize the outer shoulders of them no matter what you do. It is not uncommon to see them scuffed all the way to the "B" in Bridgestone. Just try not to get frustrated by their squirminess or lack of traction-- actually, it can be a bit fun to slide around that much as long as you don't expect to win. ;-)

    -Colin
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    What is "allowed" in stock classes? From my brief knowledge it is basically:

    Cat Back
    Tires
    Shocks/Struts
    air-filter
    brake pads

    Can you modify your resonator or anything like that on the intake? I know a lot of people removed snorkus from their cars does that knock you out of Stock? Just curious.

    -mike
  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    Steve, I think you're about our "population" :-)

    Stephen
  • djasonwdjasonw Posts: 624
    Hi everyone!
    I test drove a 5 Sp wagon last weekend and I was very impressed. I currently lease a Mercedes C320 (BORING) and I own a 2002 Jeep Liberty Limited. The Jeep was great this winter but was not fun when driving at 80 MPH on interstate 84 in PA/NY. It still IS a nice truck. My inlaws are buying it from me so now I can have a "FUN" car.
    I've read nearly ever post this past week and even saw the pros and cons of m/t vs auto. I prefer a 5 sp BUT I live on Long Island and hit TONS of traffic at times. I go to NE PA nearly every weekend so I will have to settle for the auto. I test drove the auto on Long Island this week and it wasn't that bad. Definitely some lag on takeoff but once the turbo is spooled this car creates a grin you can't remove! I just can't imagine what this car will be like on the highway! Add to that, the utility of a wagon, decent ride, decent equipment, AWD and you have a true winner!
    Questions.... anyone get the guage package?
    Does getting the guages delete the clock?

    Thanks in advance for your replies.....

    Jason
  • keithllb1keithllb1 Posts: 30
    When I bought my wagon I could have gotten the gauges but I really didn't see the need for them, the more you drive the car the more you'll feel when the turbo is spoiled up and ready to roll with the slightest touch of the gas petal. I believe you lose the clock when you get the gauge cluster. I love this car more and more each day I drive it. It makes going to work a pleasure, I don't even like parking it because I have to get out of the car. The seats are very comfortable and I love the AWD combined with a high output turbo! It is a blast to drive! I still haven't taken it above 4000 rpms, and I can't wait until I put over 1000 miles on the car so I can experience the beauty of AWD at a high speed, not thrilled with the tires, but I'm not complaining at all!
  • Got my black WRX wagon in November and have put 6000 miles on it. I can't stay out of the car for long. As Winter dies down in Minnesota, I'm thinking of upgrading rims and tires for Summer. I used tirerack.com to make some preselections (haven't ordered). I like the 17 in. Mille Miglia Action and Action Sport. I also like the ratings of the Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position tires. I've never purchased more than replacement tires in the same sizes for my past five Subarus.

    Can I assume the rims and tires that come up on tirerack.com are acceptable? What are the primary concerns?

    Also, I'm thinking of utilizing the stock 16 in. rims as my Winter rims and run the stock tires until replacement Winter/Snow tires are needed. Sound logical?

    I'm new to posting here, so I apologize if this info is already out there.
  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    The only drawback about your wheel choice is that they are "heavy"! Bear in mind that the stock 16" wheels are under 17 lbs. The Mille Miglia's are over 20 lbs. The offset is ok (an important aspect in regards to Subarus). I believe the BBS RK's are about 19 lbs as is the Prodrive P1s. The P7s are a bit over 20 lbs. The lightest wheel on Tirerack for the WRX is the SSR Comps at about 13 lbs for $375 ea. As a general rule you'll find that the lighter the wheel, the more expensive it is. I would go on the i-club and do a search on wheels. There is a great buy on Rota sub-zeros (about 16 lbs ea) at less than $600 for a set of 4. I just purchased Volks Rays Gram Lites for $269 per wheel from my searching on the i-club. Volks are top-notch wheels so I was willing to spend a bit more. Another option (I almost went w/this) is to buy the 17" OEM (std on the WRX outside of N.America) wheels for about $225 ea from www.vividracing.com. They look very similar to the 16" stockers and are about 17 lbs ea. The Tirerack is convenient and customer friendly but they only have a fraction of the wheels that fit and are available for the WRX. Hope this helps instead of hinders. I know from personal anguish that the wheel choice from a pocketbook and asthetic point of view can be a struggle. :-)

    BTW, I utilized my 16" stockers as my winter rims and have Dunlop Wintersports mounted on them. They are still on (until the forementioned 17"s get here) and are great all-around winter tires for cars w/a performance pedigree. They are about $102 ea on Tirerack. The S03s are great tires but are currently backordered nationwide. Should be available about 3/22. I went w/Toyo T1s. They are actually a bit better regarding the wear factor than the S03s. They also are quieter and meet the high standards of hydroplaning resistence that the S03s have established. Oh yeah, about $10 less per tire too.

    Stephen
  • WarpDriveWarpDrive Posts: 506
    Yeah, what Stephen said.

    The 17x7 BBS RK are 17 lbs and so is the OZ Chrono Evolution sold at Tirerack. Prodrive P1's are very strong but also fairly heavy at 19.5 lbs. The Bridgestone S-03 tires are very good but also very heavy compared to other tires (something like 25 lbs in 215/45 size) compared to around 20lbs for Toyo T1-S which are one of the lighter tires. I'm going with the T1-S.

    You can go to wheelweights.net and check out the weights of wheels there.

    If you go with a 17x7.5 wheel, you'd want 225/45R17 size tires. 215/45R17 tires are more suited for a 17x7 inch wheel.

    SSR and Volks are good quality wheels but you pay more for them. The SSR Competition are a bit fragile but extremely light at 13-14 lbs. The stock 16x6.5 Subaru wheels are 16.5 lbs. I took the middle road, and went with 17x7 OZ Superleggeras which are 15.1 lbs and strong also (see my unmounted wheel here ) and 215/45 Toyo T1-S.

    The consequence of running wheels/tires that are too heavy is it can affect the way the wheels stay planted on the ground and affect the handling. The wheel will tend to "bounce" around more easily as the suspension fights to keep the wheel on the ground during bumps. I'd stay away from the Mille Miglia wheels for that reason, they are quite a bit heavier than your stock setup.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Another contender is the Firestone (hold the laughter, please) Firehawk SZ50 EP. I wanted a tire that would provide awesome grip in the dry and rain, handle crisply and predictably, but also ride well (for a summer tire) with low road noise. Oh and last longer than average, say 25,000 miles or more.

    I usually buy the most grippy in the dry, most responsive summer tires I can get for less than $100 each and ignore wet performance, ride comfort, and mileage. I tend to get about 15,000 miles out of a set of summers as a result. But now I'm removing the coilovers from my car in favor of softer SPT springs and KYB AGX struts, and I figure since I'll be getting some comfort back (lots, actually) I'll get some tires that do it all well.

    I didn't think the S-03 would last the miles, based on comments I've read and (this might be an unfair judgement) mileage others have gotten out of the S-02. I also ruled out the Yokohama AVS Sport because of mileage, and possibly ride comfort.

    The short list was:

    Bridgestone RE730
    Toyo T1-S
    Firestone SZ50 EP

    Why did I pick the Firestone? Well for one, Firestone has been just a marketing arm of Bridgestone, and I think the SZ50 is the one true performance tire Bridgestone 'lets' them have but it's a good one. I had the original SZ50 on my Camaro-- ok, I admit they were on wheels I traded for-- and I really liked them. I also drove them on a friend's Stealth turbo, great stuff.

    I haven't driven the RE730, but I have seen a lot of comments from drivers who have had higher performance tires and from autocrossers that like the heck out of this tire BUT they think the sidewalls are a bit squirmy for serious use. Yes I know they are highly touted by the Tirerack and by their user surveys-- but I suspect the lower price invites people that have never driven top level tires to try them. When something is the best you've ever had, you have no point of reference above it. ;)

    So anyway, it came down to a crap shoot between the T1-S and the SZ50 EP. I went they way I did because A) the tirerack doesn't carry Toyo and B) I leaned toward the new version of something I already new about.

    I'm liking them so far, but only have about 200 miles on them. Will autocross them this Sunday, hope they don't chunk. If they do maybe I'll use Firestone's 30 day test drive guarantee? ;)

    -Colin
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Colin,

    Kind of going OT, but was the whole Firestone tire incident ever an issue in your decision criteria? Are the SZ50 EPs made in the US or are they rebadged Bridgestones?

    Ken
  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    I forgot a couple of choices (bound to happen). I, too like the OZ Superleggras but I wanted a 7.5" rim and they aren't available in this width. Otherwise they would have worked great and looked mighty fine on my wagon! I also like the Firestone SZ250 tire but it isn't available in the 225/45x17 size that would fit the best on a WRX with a 7.5"rim. If none of my requirements are someone else's then both of these choices are excellent. :-)

    Stephen
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