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Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon



  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    What is "allowed" in stock classes? From my brief knowledge it is basically:

    Cat Back
    brake pads

    Can you modify your resonator or anything like that on the intake? I know a lot of people removed snorkus from their cars does that knock you out of Stock? Just curious.

  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    Steve, I think you're about our "population" :-)

  • djasonwdjasonw Posts: 624
    Hi everyone!
    I test drove a 5 Sp wagon last weekend and I was very impressed. I currently lease a Mercedes C320 (BORING) and I own a 2002 Jeep Liberty Limited. The Jeep was great this winter but was not fun when driving at 80 MPH on interstate 84 in PA/NY. It still IS a nice truck. My inlaws are buying it from me so now I can have a "FUN" car.
    I've read nearly ever post this past week and even saw the pros and cons of m/t vs auto. I prefer a 5 sp BUT I live on Long Island and hit TONS of traffic at times. I go to NE PA nearly every weekend so I will have to settle for the auto. I test drove the auto on Long Island this week and it wasn't that bad. Definitely some lag on takeoff but once the turbo is spooled this car creates a grin you can't remove! I just can't imagine what this car will be like on the highway! Add to that, the utility of a wagon, decent ride, decent equipment, AWD and you have a true winner!
    Questions.... anyone get the guage package?
    Does getting the guages delete the clock?

    Thanks in advance for your replies.....

  • keithllb1keithllb1 Posts: 30
    When I bought my wagon I could have gotten the gauges but I really didn't see the need for them, the more you drive the car the more you'll feel when the turbo is spoiled up and ready to roll with the slightest touch of the gas petal. I believe you lose the clock when you get the gauge cluster. I love this car more and more each day I drive it. It makes going to work a pleasure, I don't even like parking it because I have to get out of the car. The seats are very comfortable and I love the AWD combined with a high output turbo! It is a blast to drive! I still haven't taken it above 4000 rpms, and I can't wait until I put over 1000 miles on the car so I can experience the beauty of AWD at a high speed, not thrilled with the tires, but I'm not complaining at all!
  • Got my black WRX wagon in November and have put 6000 miles on it. I can't stay out of the car for long. As Winter dies down in Minnesota, I'm thinking of upgrading rims and tires for Summer. I used to make some preselections (haven't ordered). I like the 17 in. Mille Miglia Action and Action Sport. I also like the ratings of the Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position tires. I've never purchased more than replacement tires in the same sizes for my past five Subarus.

    Can I assume the rims and tires that come up on are acceptable? What are the primary concerns?

    Also, I'm thinking of utilizing the stock 16 in. rims as my Winter rims and run the stock tires until replacement Winter/Snow tires are needed. Sound logical?

    I'm new to posting here, so I apologize if this info is already out there.
  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    The only drawback about your wheel choice is that they are "heavy"! Bear in mind that the stock 16" wheels are under 17 lbs. The Mille Miglia's are over 20 lbs. The offset is ok (an important aspect in regards to Subarus). I believe the BBS RK's are about 19 lbs as is the Prodrive P1s. The P7s are a bit over 20 lbs. The lightest wheel on Tirerack for the WRX is the SSR Comps at about 13 lbs for $375 ea. As a general rule you'll find that the lighter the wheel, the more expensive it is. I would go on the i-club and do a search on wheels. There is a great buy on Rota sub-zeros (about 16 lbs ea) at less than $600 for a set of 4. I just purchased Volks Rays Gram Lites for $269 per wheel from my searching on the i-club. Volks are top-notch wheels so I was willing to spend a bit more. Another option (I almost went w/this) is to buy the 17" OEM (std on the WRX outside of N.America) wheels for about $225 ea from They look very similar to the 16" stockers and are about 17 lbs ea. The Tirerack is convenient and customer friendly but they only have a fraction of the wheels that fit and are available for the WRX. Hope this helps instead of hinders. I know from personal anguish that the wheel choice from a pocketbook and asthetic point of view can be a struggle. :-)

    BTW, I utilized my 16" stockers as my winter rims and have Dunlop Wintersports mounted on them. They are still on (until the forementioned 17"s get here) and are great all-around winter tires for cars w/a performance pedigree. They are about $102 ea on Tirerack. The S03s are great tires but are currently backordered nationwide. Should be available about 3/22. I went w/Toyo T1s. They are actually a bit better regarding the wear factor than the S03s. They also are quieter and meet the high standards of hydroplaning resistence that the S03s have established. Oh yeah, about $10 less per tire too.

  • WarpDriveWarpDrive Posts: 506
    Yeah, what Stephen said.

    The 17x7 BBS RK are 17 lbs and so is the OZ Chrono Evolution sold at Tirerack. Prodrive P1's are very strong but also fairly heavy at 19.5 lbs. The Bridgestone S-03 tires are very good but also very heavy compared to other tires (something like 25 lbs in 215/45 size) compared to around 20lbs for Toyo T1-S which are one of the lighter tires. I'm going with the T1-S.

    You can go to and check out the weights of wheels there.

    If you go with a 17x7.5 wheel, you'd want 225/45R17 size tires. 215/45R17 tires are more suited for a 17x7 inch wheel.

    SSR and Volks are good quality wheels but you pay more for them. The SSR Competition are a bit fragile but extremely light at 13-14 lbs. The stock 16x6.5 Subaru wheels are 16.5 lbs. I took the middle road, and went with 17x7 OZ Superleggeras which are 15.1 lbs and strong also (see my unmounted wheel here ) and 215/45 Toyo T1-S.

    The consequence of running wheels/tires that are too heavy is it can affect the way the wheels stay planted on the ground and affect the handling. The wheel will tend to "bounce" around more easily as the suspension fights to keep the wheel on the ground during bumps. I'd stay away from the Mille Miglia wheels for that reason, they are quite a bit heavier than your stock setup.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Another contender is the Firestone (hold the laughter, please) Firehawk SZ50 EP. I wanted a tire that would provide awesome grip in the dry and rain, handle crisply and predictably, but also ride well (for a summer tire) with low road noise. Oh and last longer than average, say 25,000 miles or more.

    I usually buy the most grippy in the dry, most responsive summer tires I can get for less than $100 each and ignore wet performance, ride comfort, and mileage. I tend to get about 15,000 miles out of a set of summers as a result. But now I'm removing the coilovers from my car in favor of softer SPT springs and KYB AGX struts, and I figure since I'll be getting some comfort back (lots, actually) I'll get some tires that do it all well.

    I didn't think the S-03 would last the miles, based on comments I've read and (this might be an unfair judgement) mileage others have gotten out of the S-02. I also ruled out the Yokohama AVS Sport because of mileage, and possibly ride comfort.

    The short list was:

    Bridgestone RE730
    Toyo T1-S
    Firestone SZ50 EP

    Why did I pick the Firestone? Well for one, Firestone has been just a marketing arm of Bridgestone, and I think the SZ50 is the one true performance tire Bridgestone 'lets' them have but it's a good one. I had the original SZ50 on my Camaro-- ok, I admit they were on wheels I traded for-- and I really liked them. I also drove them on a friend's Stealth turbo, great stuff.

    I haven't driven the RE730, but I have seen a lot of comments from drivers who have had higher performance tires and from autocrossers that like the heck out of this tire BUT they think the sidewalls are a bit squirmy for serious use. Yes I know they are highly touted by the Tirerack and by their user surveys-- but I suspect the lower price invites people that have never driven top level tires to try them. When something is the best you've ever had, you have no point of reference above it. ;)

    So anyway, it came down to a crap shoot between the T1-S and the SZ50 EP. I went they way I did because A) the tirerack doesn't carry Toyo and B) I leaned toward the new version of something I already new about.

    I'm liking them so far, but only have about 200 miles on them. Will autocross them this Sunday, hope they don't chunk. If they do maybe I'll use Firestone's 30 day test drive guarantee? ;)

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869

    Kind of going OT, but was the whole Firestone tire incident ever an issue in your decision criteria? Are the SZ50 EPs made in the US or are they rebadged Bridgestones?

  • barresa62barresa62 Posts: 1,379
    I forgot a couple of choices (bound to happen). I, too like the OZ Superleggras but I wanted a 7.5" rim and they aren't available in this width. Otherwise they would have worked great and looked mighty fine on my wagon! I also like the Firestone SZ250 tire but it isn't available in the 225/45x17 size that would fit the best on a WRX with a 7.5"rim. If none of my requirements are someone else's then both of these choices are excellent. :-)

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I had a set of firestones that were decent all-weather tire. I'm sure they'll work out fine. Although the GTAs I had did chunk @ auto-x pretty badly.

  • WarpDriveWarpDrive Posts: 506
    Both similar in price and both have great user reviews, but I let the weight be the deciding factor. The Toyo T1-S are a couple of lbs lighter than the Firestone SZ50EP in the size I wanted. I'd like to hear what you think about them cause I was so close to getting the Firestones based on the uniformly good reviews all around. The SZ50EP is a different breed of tire than regular Firestone offerings and uses all the same good stuff designed into the S-02/S-03 so it should be very very good.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Ken, interesting question. I think we can address it without straying OT...

    No I didn't consider the Firestone recall at all. The SZ50 EP is in fact made in Japan and I believe it is the only Firestone tire that comes from the plant other than race tires. (IRL still uses Firestone, right? don't follow it myself.) WarpDrive is correct, some of the Firestone names for the technologies employed in the SZ50 EP are different than the Bridgestone names, but it's really the same stuff. dual-layer tread, enhanced silica, jointless band, long-link carbons, blah blah blah.

    Including shipping, mount & balance on a Hunter GSP9700, new high quality valve stems, and disposal of my old summer tires it was over $700. Seems like money well spent so far!

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    So, how can one find out if a Firestone tire (or even Bridgestones, for that matter) is made in Japan? After the whole recall thing, I had pretty much written off Firestones as a possibile aftermarket tire.

  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Ken- I'm no fan of Firestone but I think their problems have been totally blown out of proportion. If I were considering tires and Firestone had a competitive model, I would certainly include it.

    -Frank P.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038

    In this case I had a hunch that the SZ50 EP was. I asked someone on the iClub if they would mind looking at their sidewall-- sure enough, in relatively small print it's right there MADE IN JAPAN.

    It's on mine too of course. I hate to steer this OT so I'm not going to comment on the whole Firestone debacle any further than saying that I agree with Frank.

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Gotcha. Thanks. Moving on...

  • stevesr0stevesr0 Posts: 24
    The little red wrx I bought came with a turbo gauge, but no instruction manual. Is there a guide available or can someone advise how I interpret the readings and make sure it is working ok?


  • stevesr0stevesr0 Posts: 24
    When I bought my wrx recently, I gave the vin and other basic information to my insurance company and was advised that the auto insurance would cost $1900. In contrast, my last car a Ford Focus, was under $900.

    I assume that they just ran the VIN and it came out as high performance or sport vehicle and this led to higher rate.

    Is this correct and have others routinely had such a boost purely because of performance level of car. I have NO auto risk factors.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Yep thats what happens when you buy a turbo car :( With Boy R!cer following and with people wrecking their WRXs left and right.

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