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Porsche Cayenne

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  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    of a cayenne that got into an accident...

     

    http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/exotics/5cayenne_20041117- _001.shtml

     

    it seems like it is a pretty sturdy car....the front all caved in, but passenger compartment unaffected....

     

    last year there was another cayenne like this , but with the whole engine bay all parted out...but the passenger compartment was intact....

     

    I think Porsche and VW did a great job on the super high strength passenger cage... and the crumple zones....
  • I am looking for a Cayenne V6 with some basic options (roof, tipronic, heated seats, colored crests, zeonons) and not much else. Just your basic go to work vehicle. I'd like to do it before 1 January. Some of the vehicles on dealers lots are mind boggling. One I was quoted on today was a V6 with an MSRP of 54K! They loaded that sucker with 10K of useless crap (e.g., "soft" look leather so it looks like you sleep in your car, a trailer hitch so you can drag a skid steer home from Nations Rent, $450 of roof rack, $650 or so of for an extra interior light or two, etc.).

     

    When you mention the manual shift version, everyone justs sniffs that this isn't going to work well with a 6000 pound vehicle so "we aren't going to order any".

     

    Who specs these out? An angry dealer CFO who doesn't want to see any MSRP for under 50K? A properly specc'ed V6 should sell rings around an X5 yet because you can't get them, Porche doesn't sell them.
  • prdprd Posts: 2
    I have owned two Cayennes. Both had tires replaced by Porsche for wear issues. My current Turbo has 19" wheels and the dealer discovered the tires have been slipping on the rims! I am on my third set of tires and hoping this finally does the trick as I am tired of driving the 100+ miles for each service visit.
  • kw1kw1 Posts: 2
    I also had early wear issues on Continentals. Dealer tried to get approval from corporate to replace the tires free of charge as they had seen similar instances but they couldn't get approval. Apparently your Cayenne has to be manufactured prior to Sept 03 in order for tires to be covered.
  • I have a Cay Turbo 04. Just in the last few days, it's been alarming on its own when locked. I had the car since July 03. Has anyone else experience this problem?
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    hi Joe...

     

    I have not had any alarm problems....maybe check to make sure it is not some electrical fault, or some internal malfunction ?

     

    good luck...
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    HI... was at the SUV fuel mileage forum, and got some tips that I applied to the cayenne on my recent trip down to LA.

     

    I had 2 adults, 3 kids, 3 TVs and associated electrical hardware, trunk full of luggage and gifts.....and got 20 mpg going 60 mph.

     

    It is the local driving that kills fuel mileage ...... any car accelerating will get single digit mpg....

     

    Use the trip computer (and while on the freeway and you are ready to go for the high mpg ), switch it to mpg screen, and press the reset button for a full 2 seconds....and the computer will calculate current mpg.

     

    If you don't reset it, then it averages in all the low mpg that you got when you were taking the corner at speed or accelerating faster than some other sports cars.... ;-) and you will end up with a lower mpg figure.

     

    going to the SUV mileage forum will give you some good ideas....

     

    :-)

     

    Happy New Year...!!
  • I have been researching all the steel and crash data I can get my hands on and I think the Cay may be the safest thing out there.

     

    I am wondering, though, if the T-reg uses the same steel and same welding process for the shell as the Cay -- if so, then T-reg would be a great deal since its $10,000 less and would be just as safe.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    I think CR gave that title to the X5. Or was it the X3?
  • I am looking to upgrade the headlights to Xenon. I have read the various posts on upgrades. Has anyone actually done this. I did ask my dealer and the claim they don't know about upgrading to Xenon. There are various kits available.

     

    Have searched for a bra to protect the CS here in the northeast. Tons of abraisives on the road everytime we get a flake of snow. Any brand suggestions that fit well.

     

    I love the CS. Just the whole feel is terrific even with the various little issues.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,898
    Car front end protective bras & film has some brand recommedations.

     

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  • Just picked up an '05 TT and love everything about it except seat comfort. I'm 6', 225#, and can't get past the annoying side bolsters pressing into my legs. Anybody else experienced this?
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    Hi jpindallas:

     

    yes, there was one ot two who complained that the seats were a little too narrow, that it felt contricting....

    no one complained about Cayenne not being able to accomodate taller people.

     

    I personally think the seats are OK....but could be better..

     

    the best seats , IMO, are the ones in the top of line volvo sedans....just cushy but supportive...
  • Cay is not a sedan -- tyically sedans have better seating comfort than SUVs.
  • with some of you in a fight club (of the mind) to see whos best arguments will the crowd as to what is the safest car amoung the folloing: T=Reg, Cay, X5 and X3, XC90. Bigger SUVs are excluded and they are machines used to kill people -- unfortunitly our own people, kids, wives, mothers, and so on.
  • Wow! This is going to be the start of a long thread. How is safety going to be defined? Survivability, once in an accident? The XC90 wins with more and better air bags, better roof structure, RSC, etc. The vehicle with the most accident likelihood or accident-proneness? Get out the insurance records and maybe the testerone generating Cay Turbo and the 4.4 X5 lose big time and XC90 wins again (stodgy drivers, etc.). The vehicle with the most accident avoidance, once you are in the accident zone? Maybe the X5 or the Cay win on manuverabilty, visibility, control, etc.
  • Yes, this is a tough one to define.

     

    It might be easy if there is a clear winner -- ie, best side and best front and best roll-over protection.

     

    For me (a rather selfish perspective) and using the Friedrich Nietzsche dictum (ie, "What does not destroy me, makes me stronger."): probability of death in the driver's seat if hit by a tractor trailor going 70 mph in a T-bone.
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    yes, the chasis components are the same for T-reg and cayenne....

     

    both have super strong steel cage and strong outer chasis.
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    HI wwest:

     

    I don;;t think consumer reports does testing on Porsche much.....

     

    they go for the economy of items....so if they declared the X5 the winner, they may have left out other contenders, as they frequently do on dishwashers, fridges, etc....

     

    I do not think they will test caviar nor mink coats. ;-)
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    Hi aaaedgarpoe:

     

    what happened to allen ? :-)

     

    I agree, Cayenne is not a sedan...it is more than that....it is a vehicle that can go off road, then to the race track and go 150 mph plus safely, then take you to the opera or Ritz in style.....

     

    that said, I think Porsche let VW do a little too much work....and VW is about economy , thus the less than luxurious seating....

     

    I like the volvo S60 R seats the best....just pure glove like cushion, but with side supports that gently hold you....pure heaven compared to BMW, mercedes, porsche, caddy, etc....

     

    try it at your local dealer if you get the chance.

     

    If I were Porsche, I would take apart a S60R seat, re-engineer it, and put it in all cayennes....comfort with lateral support....and it would be in tune with what cayenne is all about.
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    I understand Volvo and its reputation for safe cars....

     

    but I think Cayenne has the same number of air bags....

     

    and cayenne super strength steel cage is nothing to sneeze at...though one must put the 2 cars side to side in a battery of tests to see which is safer...

     

    I think the Porsche Stability system is better than the Volvo one....volvo markets its stability system loudly...together with its air bags....calling it the only antiroll-over system on the market...

     

    Porsche has all of the above, and integrated with the traction control system . Cayenne has a few gyroscopes of its own , to detect yaw, pitch and roll, and all systems are integrated into one complete overall system....

     

    With a cayenne with air suspension, then even that is linked to the overall anti-roll over system....it has a self leveling feature that automatically adjusts air pressure in the shocks on the side that it senses is tipping over....a real anti tip over compensator. Volvo does NOT have this. It only has a stability system coupled with side airbags.

     

    IMO, Porsche, due to the need for the cayenne to be a sports car , has done more to prevent rollover, and more to increase stability and on road capability, than Volvo. and the numbers speak for them selves...

     

    At the famed Nurbringen track...the Cayenne turned in lap times better than the 2003 boxster and on par with the BMW M3.....going that fast around the laps would leave the Volvo crashed and out of the track, IMO.
  • actually knows something about the safety cage of the Cay and T-reg! The safety cages are the same.

     

    And boy did that take digging. If you call VW, all they do is read press releases to you.

     

    Now if the T-reg just had a carbon filter for cabin air as the Cay has as an option.
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    T-reg , IMO, already has a nice interior...some say the 2nd best, after Range Rover....

     

    I like the neatness and less buttons layout of the cayenne.

     

    didn't know that the t-reg did not have a carbon air filter....

     

    did you know that the cayenne has TWO separate hydraulic brake systems...(probably one for front, one for back, but I am not sure how) !!

     

    So that when one system fails, the other will still work ? cool.... :-)
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,898
    Most cars have a dual circuit brake system so that two wheels will brake if one of the brake lines fail. Maybe the Cay has a redundant four wheel system?

     

    btw High, you need to see this off-topic pic. <g>

     

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  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    Hi Steve :

     

    thanks for info on the brakes....seems like a good idea to have dual circuits. According to Porsche , it is a redundant dual circuit.

     

    LOL....wow....Nice pic !! seems like a great way to deliver KKs to sails.... ;-) <g>

     

    talk about overkill.... :-)

     

    well, to each his own, I guess....
  • Highender and others, while we know that the V6 engine is shared to some extent with VW, does the VW also have a dry sump? The same loooong oil change intervals? The same Mobil 1 recommendation? The same difficulty in changing the oil? Should I volunteer to the board to buy and compare prices and internal construction (by cutting them open) of the VW and Porche oil filter?

     

    Wouldn't it be interesting if the local VW guy would do the Porche $200 oil change for a VW like price, say $50? Wouldn't you pop for one every 5 to 6K as with other cars, say like those made in Munich?
  • Not really considering you are looking at a 20,000 mile oil change interval, using a dry sump system requiring 9 or 10 quarts of Mobil 1 at a cost of around $5 to $6 per quart and a $12 to $15 filter ($75 for oil and filter alone). Plus the check up they do at the oil change includes more then just changing the oil, its a full inspection of all fluid levels, drive belts, cv joint boots, ect......! And its only necessary every 2 years unless you drive more than the 20,000 miles. I agree it sounds expensive till you know what all is involved! Probably should be closer to $140 or so, but Porsche technicians make more then the Cheverolet garage mechanics.
  • highenderhighender Posts: 1,364
    Hi blckislandguy:

     

    I am not sure, but I think the V6 engine does not have a dry sump for lubrication...I know that both V8 engines have this feature.

     

    I think the V8 engines are different for VW and Porsche...

     

    don't know if the filter is exchangeable between the two...but I think you can get any oil change place to change to oil for $20 , if you provide the 10 quarts of Mobil 1 syn and the oil filter.

     

    I get all the factory recommended oil changes done at the dealer, but in between, I get just the oil changed (not the oil filter) at a local shop .
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