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Kia Rio5

pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
edited March 20 in Kia
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"Kia will offer the lowest-priced station wagon in the world when the 2002 Rio Wagon goes on sale in the summer of 2001." Read the complete article here: 2002 Kia Rio Wagon. Sounds like a lot of car for the dollars. What do you think?

Thanks for your comments. ;-)

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  • netranger4netranger4 Posts: 149
    Went to the NAIAS in Detroit and saw the car up close. For the price, very good fit and finish and ideal for those needing a small wagon for everyday errands. Did not get to sit in it and other than seeing it closely, could not tell much more than this. However, having talked to several owners of the sedan version who have been pleased with their cars, it seems like a good buy for those in need of a vehicle with its' capabilities.
  • cjaccettacjaccetta Posts: 236
    at the New York Auto Show. Looked nice for the price. As in the above post, viewers couldn't get inside. However, I noticed through the driver's side window that there appeared to be a power mirror switch, which leads me to believe that the Rio Wagon may come equipped with standard (or optional) features which are unavailable on the sedan version. Note that the wagon comes standard with the sedan's optional "upgrade package"

    All in all, the wagon comes across as a fine little people & cargo hauler for the money. It looks classier than the sedan. I'd certainly consider buying one.
  • dogangeldogangel Posts: 3
    I am very interested in checking out the rio wagon, but no one seems to know when it will come available. Not much new information lately. Does anyone have the inside scoop?
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    You may want to try inquiring directly through the Kia Website. Good luck, and please let us know if you find out anything new.... Happy Motoring! ;-)


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  • Welcome to the Swamp!!!
  • Since I have a long commute and chew up cars on a regular basis, and with the price of gas fluctuating as much as money on the currency market these days, I need a car that gets good mileage first, comfortable second. I really like wagons, and this one is just gorgeous. So, I have been pestering the local Kia dealers in between work and home. Heres the latest: the wagon (to be called the Rio Cinco, by the way) was suppose to be here already. Instead, the new Sedona MiniVan has started to roll in. So, they (the Dealers) feel that the "RioCinco" (kind of catchy!) should be here bt the end of this month or by mid August. Since the drivetrain of the Wagon will be the same as the sedan, I drove both a Manual and a Automatic version to get an idea of what level of performance I can expect. The manual was fun. The shifts are short and accurate, but a little stiff (although this may loosen with time) This transmission makes the most out of the torque available off the line. (there is only 98 ftlb's available, and it does not peek until 4500 rpm's. pretty high) So, as you can imagine, the Auto Trans is not quite as fun. Unfortunately, Kia may have geared the final drive ratio to allow for better mileage, so the off the line performance leaves one wanting for more. But once it gets moving (and the revs get up there) it moves out pretty well. I imagine it would be just fine on the freeway. I look forward to further postings here and will definitely post as soon as I actually see and drive one.
  • Well, there starting to show up in dealers as of this week (7/26/01). It looks better in the flesh then it does in pictures too! The one I looked at was Polar White with Gray interior. It had the manual trans and all available options except ABS. Alloy Wheels, A/I, DC unit, Tilt wheel, Rear Wiper washer, Floor Mats, ETC. However, the wagon portions list had 2 important differences from the Sedan: this one had factory Power Door locks (operated by the drivers door lock post, pull up or push down, with key or by hand, and all the doors (including the tail gate) unlock or lock)Very nice especially, for a wagon. The other: the guages now include a Tachometer! Yeah. With a Manual car I really like having a Tach. This way I always know how hard I am pushing the engine. Also, I had a chance to drive it. It drove like the sedan. Good ride, adequate, if not sparkling, acceleration, a very comfortable driving position. The A/I works quite well, gets and stays cold quickly. The interior, especially in back, is nicer than the sedans. The rear seats have a 60/40 split back and 3 adjustable head rests! (figuring that you may punish one of your friends by putting them in the middle of the back seat between your two line-backer buddies and you would not want their neck to get hurt) Still, a nice touch. The hatch/tailgate is easy to open via a latch handle hidden behind the trim panel above the license plate area. The hatch is very light and opens nice and high, so people of average to moderately tall heights will not hit there head when trying to load a large item. It even has a nice and easy to grip pull handle (note: a real handle, not a cut out in the trim panel for fingers only) for closing it once your finished (something many wagons, costing alot more money, do not have).
    The cargo area is nicely finished and has a light mounted to the left trim panel that comes on when the hatch is opened. Also, this one had the optional cargo net. There is a standard pull out cargo cover that easily latches on the edges of the door frame. Also, under the carpeted floor covering is a mini spare and some room to put additional tools and disc emergency items. Again, very nicely done. Now comes the best part, with all the features of the top sedan plus the additional items I have mentioned, (as well as the added versatility and really great styling) the MSRP for this car, as equipped, is $12,194. Wow. An incredible price for a car in this class. Go price a Suzuki Esteem wagon or the Ford Focus wagon and see what I mean.
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    Wow, all that for an Msrp of $12,194...? Is that Canadian or Amercian dollars? Are you going to be purchasing one? If so, I'm looking forward to hearing more details... Thanks again! ;-)


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  • Saw the first Cinco wagon at a dealer here in Ohio... sticker was $12,699....in truth...it's looks more like a hatchback than wagon....
    Would like to test drive one soon....
  • Live in Jax, Florida. Coggin Kia got one yesterday and I drove it today. It was a beautiful pewter green with a multi colored beige interior. Features included automatic, a/C, Cd player. All for about 12,600 msrp. Seats were very comfortable and firm. A much more expensive feel than the sticker would make you think, ( even lumbar on drivers side!) Stereo was very good also. The drive was impressive for under 100 hp ( 95 or 97 I think) A/C blew real cold! The one thing I did not like was that the rear split fold down seats did not only not fold down flat , but there was a very steep angle to them more so than other wagons or hatches. I am interested in the vehicle for hauling around my basset! He would have a hard time with balance in this one!( Yes he is spoiled!) The vehicle looks wise is gorgeous! Much nicer than even the pictures! Overall a great value for the money and I think Kia will have a winner with this one. Am I gonna get one? That remains to be seen! Happy wagon hunting!
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Saw one yesterday (St. Louis).

    Since this thing is essentially a hatchback, would it be possible to double list it on the hatchback forum like the Mazda?
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    IMHO

    Saw it yesterday (St. Louis).

    Since this is a cross between a wagon and a hatch would it be possible to co-post on the hatchback forum, like the Mazda Pro-5?
  • cjaccettacjaccetta Posts: 236
    I saw the Rio Cinco at the NY auto show in April and I was fairly impressed. The little wagon looks cool and seems fairly practical. We couldn't get into the car at the show so I never got to snoop around in it.

    When our injury-prone second car bites the dust I may investigate the purchase of a Rio Wagon (or Toyota Echo) as a cheap commuter/mountain biking car. I'd love to read the experiences of those who've tested or bought the Rio Cinco.

    Happy Motoring!
  • occupant1occupant1 Posts: 408
    mmmmm...tachometer...GOOD!
  • As of today, I am the proud owner of a Polar White, w/Grey Interior, RIO Cinco Wagon. The car is a 5 spd (much better use of the available power)and has the following options: A/C, Am/FM/CD Stereo, Carpeted Floor Mats, Alloy wheels, Cargo net, and, most importantly, Power Door Locks. So far, I love it. Very good A/C (I live in California and as you know, it has been quite HOT lately, including today). I also have a couple of dealer add ons: Tinted Windows (Except the Driver & front passenger doors, CA Law prohibits)Paint and Fabric treatment (which I did not want, nor did I pay for it, even though they had already done it) and a Pass Key Theft deterrent system, (you have to pass a coded key fob past a point on the dash. When you here 2 beeps, you have 30 seconds to start the car). Again, it was on the car already, but I feel better having it and got it for cost. The car is very comfortable for me(5'8.5" and several pounds above my "ideal" weight). I had no problem finding an Ideal setting for the 8-way adjustable drivers seat and the adjustable steering wheel. The CD sounds quite good for this price of car(not as good as the Toyota Echo's, but close). I will keep you posted on how the car performs, the gas mileage and it's reliabililty. P.S.: I used to own a Toyota Echo. It was a fun car to drive, but had far less features (NO Tach, NO Adjustable Drivers Seat(or Armrest for the driver), NO Power Locks, NO Alloy Wheels, NO Anti-Theft system, NO Window Tint) and I paid $3000 more for it!. Why do I not have it now: One main reason: The Drivers seat. For Me, it was so uncomfortable due to way to lumbar support designed in and a bottom cushion angle that was to severe. I had to add 2 pieces of foam to top of the cushion just to get the seat somewhat comfortable!. My back hurt so bad after a few months in the car, I sold it. However, it was a good performer, got great mileage and the CD stereo was simply excellent.
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    Congratulations! And thanks for sharing all the details. Btw, I believe you're the first actual owner that's posted in this discussion. I think we'll be seeing more owners here very soon. We look forward to hearing more about your ownership experience, so please keep us posted. ;-)


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  • ...in Canada. Just got back from a seven day trip to Montreal and Quebec City where I saw several Kia Rio wagons. They looked cool but were smaller than I thought. They reminded me of Peanut M&Ms candies (I mean that in a good way). That wagon seems ideally suited to urban driving. I still haven't seen one stateside yet.

    The Rio Wagon is near the top of my list as a second car (along with the Echo - which seems to be the official Car of Quebec Province).

    autoknologist - if I may ask, what did you pay for yours? I'm very curious but I will certainly understand if you don't wish to share. Good luck with you new car!
  • No I have no problem telling you what I paid.
    $13500 out the door. So far, So good. On my first 2 measured tanks of gas, I got 32.6 and 33.0 mpg. Not to bad for a car that is not really broken in yet. I have been pleasantly surprised by the performance of the car so far. I have to pull a long grade of about 6-8 miles where the elevation goes from goes from 1900 ft to 3250 ft. So it is a long, steady climb. The RIO pulls it with no problem and I do not have to down shift even with A/C on!. I have had many cars that could not do this. One small criticism I do have is the small and fairly useless slide out cup holders. At least useless in the manual model. When you shift through the gears, if you have a drink in the holder bigger than a soda can, you hit it with your hand and the shifter. Other than that, I haven't found anything else to really complain about. Again, I have had a Toyota Echo. It was a good car. However, it was more money (and there has been price increases since I bought mine!), did not have the same features as the Rio and was not nearly as comfortable to drive (at least for me). Particular annoying was the Echo's tendency to be easily blown around by the wind. Due to its tall, boxy design and light weight, if there is a small cross wind, you will feel it as the car has to be constantly corrected to keep it going in a straight line. (Hoever,I do live in a windy area). Surprisingly, the RIO is barely affected by cross winds. Why is this? Not sure, really. But I believe it is because of the shape of the wagon(which are inherently more aerodynamic) and its lower profile. Nice surprise for me though. Good luck on whatever car you choose. I look forward to hearing what you picked and how you like it.
  • takes the winds better than the Toyota Echo. It's a better-made car. Don't tell Clodsumer Retorts, they'll tell you it HAS TO BE A HONDA OR TOYOTA OR IT'S NO GOOD!!! I can't believe the nonsense sold for money we're dealt in this country. People buy it, too! I'm FIRMLY CONVINCED that Kia and Hyundai are our #1 choice for cars in America. Bar none.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • What you are saying are not facts. They are opinions. The fact is that Korean cars are still lagging a bit behind, but they have made such a fast improvement that I will not be surprised if Hyundai or Kia for that matter surpasses Honda and Toyota someday.
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