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  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Although you like yours and Iluvmysephia likes his, there seems to be almost no posts on it (last time I looked). In fact, I think the entire thread disappeared.

    I'm interested because a friend of my daughter is thinking about buying one. Frankly I was suprised when I drove one, cheap but appealing in a crude sort of way. Didn't like the shift linkage, however, just like all Kias I've tried (except for my Festiva).
  • luck11luck11 Posts: 425
    My mother has been looking for a nice small and inexpensive car to replace her 91 Ford Explorer XLT which is essentially toast.

    We have been looking at the small car category including the Civic, Sentra, Corolla, Focus, Impreza. Being a proud owner of a 00 Subaru Outback and a believer in AWD (very handy in our snowy winter climate), I am predisposed to the Impreza Wagon.

    My mother is not picky. She wants a good car(reliable), with some basic power options (ie. locks, windows and AC), that gets good mileage and most importantly, is comfortable to sit in. My mom has bad hips and she has found that most cars seats are designed to fit you snug, which places pressure on her hips and can be very painful. So far, the Corolla wins in this category because it seats are rather flat.

    To my questions:

    1. Are Power windows available?
    2. The $13K you paid...is this Cdn or US? Do you have Cdn figures?
    3. The seats, are they relatively flat, or are the contoured support to fit snug?
    4. Maybe I missed it, but what does KIA offer in terms of warranty?

    I must admit, I am a little hesitant to recommend a KIA. Perhaps its the stereotype of Korean cars having bad reliability....Can anyone share additional thoughts on the reliability of these cars?

    Many thanks.
  • Hello. Let me answer your questions in order. 1) Power windows are only available in Canada, not in the US (bummer for me). They are standard on the Sport version Rx-V. 2) The price I quoted is in US dollars, not Canadian. You will have to check your canadian buying guide sites for your price. 3) The seats are very comfortable, with only a little contouring. The problem that your mother will have is that the car is fairly low, making getting in and out it more difficult, especially if she is used to getting in and out of an Explorer. 4) As Far as the warranty goes; here it is in a nut shell; Again this is quoted in US measurements of miles, not kilometers. The basic factory warranty is: 5 yrs or 60,000 miles Bumper-to-Bumper, 10 yr, 100,000 mile Limited powertrain coverage, 5 yr unlimited mileage road side assistance. Now, what do they mean by limited? The 100,000 mile powertrain extension is for the original purchaser of the vehicle only. If the car is sold or traded, then the powertrain portion is limited to 60,000 miles. Also, other limitations include: the paint and audio systems are only covered for 36,000 miles and adjustments are covered for only 12,000 miles (IE: Door alignment, cable adjustments, idle speed: repairs not requiring replacement of parts). Also, as far as reliabililty goes, I must admit that on paper (and as seen in some consumer magazines) KIA does not have a good reputation. In fact, they have consistantly performed in the lower rankings. However, there quality is improving. I am sure that this is due to there new owners influence, Hyundai. So far, I have had NO problems (nock on wood) at all. NONE.( with my last car, the Toyota ECHO, I had problems early on. Hmmmm) Which is really good because the dealer I bought the car from closed their doors forever, seemingly days after I signed for mine. This has created other frustrations for me related to proper processing of the paperwork, but that is another story, to long to tell here. Anyway, let me get back on track. If I may suggest, have you and your mother looked at the new Ford Escape as a replacement for the Explorer? It is smaller than the Explorer, so it is much easier to handle and gets a little better mileage. Yet it still has that higher SUV profile, making it easier to get in and out of. It can be had with all the goodies you might want and comes with a 4 cyl standard. An optional 200hp V6 is available. It can be purchased in Front or All wheel drive versions. Another great new smaller SUV is the Hyundai Sante Fe. This is a really nice vehicle. It is based on the Sonata platform. This means you get a car like ride from four wheel independent suspension and V6 power. It can also be pruchased in Front or All wheel drive versions. In addtion, as in normal fashion for Hyundai, you get alot of bang for the buck and you get the same great warranty as KIA offers! I have mentioned just a couple of the small SUV's now available. I did this because your mom is use to the advantages of an SUV, but may not want to spend a fortune on a new Explorer (or there just to big) Now, if you are on a budget and this is why your considering a RIO Wagon, then by all means check one out. Another idea I want to mention is that, if you can wait just a few more months, there will be several new vehicles coming out in the, what I call, the Mini, minivan/all activity vehicle class that may be perfect for your needs. The one that will land first will be the new Toyota Matrix, followed by the Pontiac Vibe (basically ,there the same vehicle underneath). Then Daewoo will be introducing there vehicle for this class (as yet un-named). You can check these vehicles out at Canadian Driver.com. A great site for news and info on cars. I hope this helps you.
  • luck11luck11 Posts: 425
    for all the info. I guess I should have mentioned that price was primary factor, as is gas mileage and ride. Her requirement for auto tranny eliminates the cheaper 4 cyl making it at least Cdn$6 K more than Rio. I agree that in and out of most sedans in general could be a problem, but I think she wants out of the "truck" ride and feel due to her back problems (gee, I make it sound like my mom is falling apart, don't I?). I have not seen the Rio myself, but suggested she go a test drive one...I believe she is going today or tomorrow. I let you know what she has to say.

    Again, thanks for taking the time.
  • I look forward to hearing what she thought of the RIO.
  • luck11luck11 Posts: 425
    Well, my mom test drove the Rio Wagon on two separate occasions, once on her own and once with my sister. Her 2nd test drive confirmed her impressions from the first test drive.

    Let me begin by identifying the cars she had on her short-list: the Subaru Impreza, Toyota Corolla, and Rio Wagon. With the economy the way it is, she just wants to get a good car and minimize costs. She plans to keep the car for 3 years then upgrade assuming they economy is better and they are more secure financially.

    As much as she loved the new 2002 Impreza and the fact that it is AWD, demand is so high and supply so short that Subaru Canada is not offering any special financing, whereas both Toyota and Kia are offering good financing rates on 2002 models. Subaru can't keep them on the lot. Also, the Impreza is about C $3 K more than the Toyota and therefore about C $ 7 K more than the Kia. In terms of quality features etc. she loved the Impreza. Seat was a problem for her hips, but she was willing to overlook that (ie. use a cushion). But price was an overriding factor and therefore the Impreza is eliminated.

    These are her impressions of the Rio:

    Pros:
    1. Get many stnd features for the price.
    2. Car is decent looking and likes the wagon for space.

    Cons:
    1. Extremely noisey engine compared to the Corolla.
    2. Seat is very uncomfortable for her.
    3. Ride is too rough.
    4. Found cabin smaller that the Corolla.
    5 Concerns/risk about quality / reliability (even with best warranty, no-one wants to make numerous trips to the dealer) We know that this may turn out to be a great car; however, Kia's reliability history increases the risk of poor reliability, even with Hyundai taking over.
    6. Related to 5 above, concerns about re-sale value ie. the risk that a good chunk of the $3K cost savings over the Corolla would be lost in re-sale value in three-years.

    As a result, as good as the price is, she decided she simply would be unhappy with this vehicle due to noise, comfort and the risk (re: reliability and re-sale). Therefore, she eliminated the Rio from her short-list.

    Down to the Corolla, I suggested she test-drive the new Elantra GT hatchback, which for the same price as the Corolla comes with more standard features.

    Anyway, thanks for all the info and advice.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
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  • I bought a new Rio Cinco last week. It has all the strenghts of the '89 Festiva that I drove for 7 years & 117,000 miles and then sent of to college with our youngest {in '97}. Again, it is an automatic w/air. It scoots through city traffic nicely, behaves well on the freeway.
    Still no power windows, but it has power locks, a standard rear washer and wiper, a much improved drivers seat {I'm 6'2}.
    If it's nearly as sturdy as that Festiva was, I'll understand the great warranty.
    The other pizza drivers I moonlight with are amazed at how much car I got for my money.

    I'm happy.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    and congrats on your Kia Rio wagon! We look forward to hearing about your ownership experience. If you have a chance, please stop by our Kia Owner's Club and say hello.

    Also, I'm sure the participants in our Ford Festiva/Aspire discussion would appreciate your Festiva notes. Use your copy/paste so you don't have to re-write your message. Happy motoring!

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  • on a pizza delivry, tonight, a kid complimented me on my "BMW wagon". LOL

    When I told him it was a KIA and cost 1/3 of the BMW price, his folks had lot's of questions.
  • We took our new Cinco on the road over the St. Patricks Weekend. Omaha to Scottsbluff via I-80 {mostly}, 1100 ft elevation to 4100 ft. Played tourist, came home on side roads through to Sandhills.
    30.2 MPG out & 32.3 mpg back.

    It was happy doing 75 on the Interstate, but wanted to do it on the side roads too. It handled passing on the side roads pretty well. I hit 90 passing 2 semi's on a down slope.

    For 2 "empty nesters" and a 64 lb Boxer,this is all the car we need for trips.

    Sue loved the way it handles curves in Nebraska's Sandhills.

    Once we added pillows in the rear leg wells, our Pooch was Happy with the back seat.
  • netranger4netranger4 Posts: 149
    An article in the auto.com web page announced that Kia had taken off the wraps on the 2003 Rio Sedan and Cinco Wagon. It sure will be interesting to see what they've done with the car.
  • dogangeldogangel Posts: 3
    Changes will include redesigned front grill, standard power windows, center console, 10 percent increase in horsepower, and optional spoiler. All good!
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Here's some information from Edmunds' coverage of the 2002 New York Auto Show: 2003 Kia Rio, by John DiPietro. Thanks for your comments.

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  • very cool looking car,better looking than the last model.i hope the prices stay the same.
  • how fast can the Kia Rio go can it get up to 120.mh
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    about various Kia models? Are you Mr. Nascar or do you just love to race on taxpayer-supported streets?!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • why would you want to go that fast?
  • How can I find out what company actually manufactures the engines and auto-transaxles in the 2002 Rio Cinco? Or to rephrase can anyone here tell me who manufatures the above, Sephias and others are not a Kia product is what many have told me .I came to ask that question but now I see the 03 will be a 1.6 litre engine? So the 2002 Cinco is a one year only engine? Who manufactures the newest 1.6 that will be in the 2003's?
  • atlankokeatlankoke Posts: 8
    The engines in th'02 are Mazda Based lic products.
    The engines in the '03 are the same that are used in Hyundai accents-Mists lic.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Actually, the 1.5 liter engine is a Kia-made engine. It is their own design. The new 1.6 liter in the 03 models is Hyundai's Alpha engine. This engine is Hyundai's own design. Kia does not use Mazda-designed engines in their cars anymore (I'm not totally sure where the Sportage's 4-cylinder comes from) and hasn't used them since 1997. Hyundai no longer uses Mitsubishi-designed engines. They stopped using them with the redesign of the Sonata in 99.
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    IS still a Mazda engine. It's a FE3 Block, with a head of Kia's own design. This engine was used in the Mazda Truck, The B2000, if I'm not mistaken.
  • aut2noaut2no Posts: 3
    Right now I'm looking for a new car and it looks like it's going to be a Rio RX-V (Cinco).
    I'm having problems deciding between a 2002 or a 2003 (so far it looks like the later), and finding add ons and upgrade parts for it on the net.

    Can any one out there help me?
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    Well, if you want a lower price, go for the 2002. The 2003's will have I believe a 8% increase in price.

    If you want looks, and power, go for the 2003. It's got the new redesign, and a new Engine with a 10% increase in power.
  • Thanks for the advise but I've already got the 2002. It was C$2000 less and it was on the lot with in 3 days.
    The more power would be nice, and as far as I can tell it may be a better engine (Hyundai used it for years). I am happy with the zip that it does have however. To be honest... I like the looks of the 2002 better.
    Even thogh comparitevly the 2003 is superior I am quit happy with my car.
    But once again, thanks.
  • Hey everyone, I'm considering buying a new 2003 Kia Rio RX-V conv. package (different from the 2002 models). Looks like a good deal at $16,150 CDN (5 sp., a/c, pw, pdl, pm, cd, alloys, roof rack), and Kia of Burnaby (Vancouver Metro area)is throwing in 5 years scheduled maintenance (oil changes, brakes, exhaust, tune-ups, even wiper blades) to match the warranty. I'm jumping from a 2001 Volvo S60 (lost it - and lots more - in the divorce...) Should I jump?
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    For more feedback, you should also post (copy/paste) your question in our Help me select a Wagon discussion. Good luck. ;-)

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  • it bigmusclepaul! Question: is this a Rio wagon(Rio Cinco) or a version of the Rio sedan? A sedan with several new options included as part of the package?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • In the US it's called the Cinco, in Canada it's simply the RX-V. However, equipment levels are different in Canada, and the 2003 RX-V conv. pkg includes alloy rims, roof rack, fog lights, power windows, mirrors and door locks, cd player and keyless entry
  • ggrioggrio Posts: 1
    First let me say that I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE my Rio Cinco! We bought her at the end of June '02 and I've never been happier. I have had a couple minor trim issues but now it's got a new trick. It's stalled out twice on me. Both times at or near a stop (crawling on LA fwy & at a stop sign). I have never ever had a new car and this scares me. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had or heard of this happening. 'She' has an appointment on Monday.
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