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BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,662
    after switching off my '00 528iA. I called my Indie Bimmer techs, without seeing it they guess it's probably the tumblers in the lock which can be replaced.

    Anybody ever have this problem on any car?

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • ron2hoffron2hoff Posts: 2
    BWM refuses to acknowledge that their rims are defective and crack as a result of normal driving, especially their 18 inch rims when coupled with run-flat tires. We have a 2006 530i with standard 18-inch alloy rims and run-flat tires that came on the car. The car is driven 90% on Los Angeles freeways, and the other 10% on well-paved local roads. The car has never taken off road or driven on a particularly bumpy/potholed roads. Nor do we take speed bumps at 40 mph, run over curbs, or not slow for a pothole . . . events that might possibly crack a rim or break a tire. I tell you all this because BMW’s excuse for not replacing 2 cracked rims was that the cracks must have been caused by the driver impacting some object, like a pothole, rather then a result of a defect in the design of the rim. In the past several years we have owned 3 BMWs . . . but this will be our last.

    After reading all of the threads on many websites about BMW’s problems with these rims and run-flat tires, it became quite clear what the problem is. The rims were designed too weak to take the impact of normal on-road driving. The problem is exacerbated by the run-flat tires, which are very hard and have strong sidewalls resulting in too much of the normal road force from small bumps being transmitted to the rim rather then absorbing some of the shock in the tire. Confirming the hundreds of comments on reliable Internet sites about the faulty rims and too hard run-flat tires is the reviews of Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Run Flat tires on cites from every supplier of these tires. In general, the comments conclude that the combination of weak 18-inch rims and 245/R40/18 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Run Flat tires (original equipment) was a very bad mistake by BMW. One comment, similar to most, says: “These tires are terrible! Harsh ride, noisy and prone to impact bubble in the side walls from hitting small potholes. . . I am going to switch to non run flats . . . What was BMW thinking when [they] picked these tires?” [http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/readReviewsTire.do?postalCodeSelected=90291&ra- =%2Ftires%2Fbridgestone%2Fsize%2FviewProductResults&pc=25428&ar=40&rd=18&cs=245]-

    We asked the Service Manager at Santa Monica BMW to replace the rims under warranty. Not only was he rude, but he was uninterested in any discussion about comments on many websites about the defective rims. It seemed apparent to me that he had been through this problem all too often before and did not want to deal with it again.

    I then called BMW NA Customer Service. They were very nice, but totally useless. After four phone calls and escalation to a customer service supervisor, I began to understand the way it works. Customer Service has no authority whatsoever, all they could do was call the Service Manager at the dealership and get the same answer you had already had gotten. They seem to be in business of playing “good guy” to take the heat off of the Service Manager by providing the same answer as if it came from an independent, higher authority at BMW, which it does not.

    Not willing to accept the result, I contacted the Director of Parts and Service at Santa Monica BMW, and told him of our displeasure with how his Service Manager had handled the problem, and asked him to involve BMW NA regional “team” to evaluate the problem and try to get some help. To his credit, he seemed very professional and appeared to want to help. He clearly understood the problem . . . you should be able to drive a BMW on normal streets and not have the rims break. Next day, he got a response from BMW regional team . . . “they would not participate” . . . meaning they would not cover it under the warranty or assist the dealer in any way.

    My next step is to contact the General Manager of BMW Santa Monica and alert him to the problem. We certainly won’t be buying any more cars at Santa Monica BMW so he loses a loyal customer because the service folks won’t handle this problem. No response from the GM of Santa Monica BMW after two calls.

    Next step is a letter to the CEO of BMW North America, and a compliant with U.S. DOT about the situation with these failing rim/tire combination. Perhaps DOT will investigate.
  • markhotopmarkhotop Posts: 1
    I have a BMW 528 with nearly 180K on it. It has recently started to make funny noises when turning. The noise only happens when it's cold, once the car worms up it stops.

    There are some vibrations along with the noise, but the car steers OK. Could this be a belt? I've had the car serviced, and the mechanic could not repeat the problem - but said every checked out fine.

    Any ideas what this might be?
  • phampham Posts: 6
    When I got my brand new BMW 535 2006 model from a dealer, the "front" car didn't have a place to hang the license plate. The dealer told me "if the front car doesn't have the place to hold the license plate, then it doesn't require by law. If the car does have the place to hold the license plate in the front, then the law requires to have the front license plate." Recently I got a ticket at SFO, I told the policeman the same thing, however he still gave me the ticket because missing the front license plate.
    At that time, I pointed out many luxury cars (mercedes, BMW and more) at SFO and they didn't have the front license plate because no front license plate holder. The policeman got confused but he doesn't want to recall the ticket.

    What is a CA law about the front license plate requirement? If there is no exception, then how can I contact BMW to handle this issue? because their design.

    If the BMW dealer told me about the front license plate for my car is true, then where should I get the statement or something to show it to the police in case the policeman stop me again in the future.

    Thanks in advances.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,116
    It's two plates and that's it. There's no exceptions I'm aware of, and yes, you have to drill holes into your brand new bumper or get some special plate holder (I've seen these for different fancy cars). California DMV sends everyone two plates.

    If the cop had been in a good mood, he would have given you a "fix-it" ticket rather than a traffic violation.

    Maybe your dealer should pay the fine for bad advice.

    I suspect this is just part of the revenue-gathering going on now. This type of ticket has long been the "sucker punch" for motorists parked in public places.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,391
    Not only that.. every 5-series is available with a license plate bracket... Just because yours wasn't installed won't get you out of a ticket..

    Or.. move to Kentucky! No front plates! :P

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,662
    . move to Kentucky! No front plates!

    No need to go that far, Arizona has no front plates either. ;)

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,662
    If the cop had been in a good mood, he would have given you a "fix-it" ticket rather than a traffic violation.

    I once got one of those in NH because my plate mount had been knocked off by a careless parker.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,116
    Plate violations at airports are the new "quickie tax". :cry:

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  • kevin530kevin530 Posts: 25
    No end to the political correctness.
    Plus a revenue stream for already bloated budgets and bennies.
    Never seen so many cops looking to give tickets since this recession started.
  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    .....in my constant quest to find a beater that is not an Escort or Corsica, I'm going to look at a 528e tomorrow ('88, automatic, 151k miles, allegedly owned by a mechanic, new brakes and battery). Yeah, I already know they're slow; this is basically going to be a 'run around town and possibly visit mom once in a while' (second car). This one looks OK for the price, and supposedly runs great. Anything endemic to these I need to know about? Owner supposedly has all books and records, which I like a lot. Thanks!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,391
    What is the price?

    Not that it matters... An '88 BMW is pretty maintenance intensive.. that's what all your money is going to go for... Even for a second car, figure $100/mo, if nothing big breaks....

    Personally, I wouldn't get an automatic in an old BMW..

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,621
    Anything endemic to these I need to know about?

    The E28(1982-1988) 5ers are very nice cars but, as kyfdx pointed out, they are getting a bit long in the tooth. Still, you can usually get at least 300,000 miles out of a well maintained car. The 1988 528e had the so-called "Super eta" motors, which have a wee bit more horsepower and a higher redline than the 1982-1987 eta motors. The eta motors were designed for fuel economy and low speed torque, and they operate at relatively(for a BMW) low engine speeds. The autobox is well suited to a super eta car. As for negatives, the engine has a timing belt which MUST be changed every four years/50,000 miles. The motor also requires a valve adjustment every 15,000 miles(a very simple job). I'd definitely have the car examined by a knowledgeable BMW tech.
    As for running costs, a lot will depend on your willingness to perform minor maintenance/repairs and the proximity of a good dealer or indie BMW tech. If it was my car, I'd change the engine oil every 5,000 miles, the aforementioned valve adjustment at 15,000 miles, the plugs/filters/ATF/final drive oil every 30,000 miles, the coolant every two years, and the brake fluid annually.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    ....thanks for the advice!
  • Have your muffler get checked. I had the same noise problem, and I ignored it. Then one day, my muffler fell out. This happened to my civic, but I am sure it is similar.
  • bmwgal3bmwgal3 Posts: 13
    I just got a fix-it ticket for not having a front license plate while parked in the Park-n-Ride in Woodside, CA. Carpooling to save the environment, right... So I called BMW Mountain View, my service advisor quoted me $300 to put on a license plate frame and have it painted to match the car (black). So I called Sterling BMW in Newport Beach, where I'd bought the car, and they mailed me a black plastic one for free. I brought it in to Mountain View and they installed it as a courtesy, took 2 minutes. Cost of ticket was $77, including the late fee...they want payment right away and don't give you time to shop around for a frame. Still, I saved $300.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,662
    IMO the dealer who sold you the car ought to pay the ticket for not putting it on when you picked up the car as is normal in two-plate venues.

    Cali must be desperate for revenue, around here that'a fix-it-in-ten-days-or-pay ticket.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • this is a great car and i love it and so i like to keep everything in this car to work properly. does anybody in this forum know how much it will cost to get a master key and also to get the rechargable flash light to work. thanks a bunch. e39 rules!!!!
  • Hi,

    Thanks for your reply, I was wondering if you remember how much it cost for you to pay for the drive belt repair. I have a 2002 530i, 62K miles. I got them do a free inspection, they said that I need to get the drive belt changed for 210$ and Rear Stabilizer link for 272$ (including tax,labor and parts).

    Thanks
    Prasanna
  • Can some one tell me what would it cost to get the drive belt and real stabilizer for 530i BMW (including labor/tax/parts)

    Thanks
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,621
    Labor and tax rates vary quite a bit, so I'll give you the approximate cost of the part as well as a reasonable installation time.

    Drive belts- both belts should cost no more than $85. One hour to install, tops.
    Stabilizer end link- the link should cost around $40 with one hour of installation.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Thanks a lot, the dealer quoted 472$ to fix this. I found a guy to get this done for 250$, you think that is feasible?

    Regards
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,621
    $250 sounds reasonable, but I'd want to make sure that the tech actually knows BMWs and isn't using you car for practice...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Hi all-

    has anyone compiled a list of "typical" repairs and maintenance items/costs for the current generation BMW 5-series (non-turbo models)? I see many questions in this forum about extended warranties and maintenance programs. Are they worth the money, what to expect, etc. It would be very helpful for all those considering buying a used 5 series to understand what the repair and maintenance costs of a typical model will be (assuming average millage) for the first 100K miles or so.

    Thanks!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,621
    Cost estimates depend on location as well as the specific dealer or indie shop. I'd say to budget @700-900 per year or 15K miles. On a BMW that sees merely street usage I follow BMW's service schedule except that I change the transmission oil(manual or slushbox) every 50,000 miles. Ditto for the final drive oil. I also change the coolant(using BMW coolant ONLY) every four years.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • The cost for my 2002 530i 5 speed sport package was approximately $1500 for items that would have been covered by BMW's extended maintenance or warranty programs which at the time cost approximately $3500. After factoring profit and commissions you can expect the average maintenance cost to be approximately half the cost of the extended maintenace/warranty programs. I typically follow the maintenance schedule recommended by Roundel/Bimmer's tech editor.
  • I got estimates from the dealer for my 2020 530i (60K miles) to fix drive belt and rear stabilizer for 500$, I found a guy who did this for half the price, this is my first repair since 7 years.

    Can some one recommend me the cheap and best winter tires? my tires are old and I havenot changed them since I bought them, is that why I see the stering shaking when I apply brakes at 60mph or more speed?

    Thanks
    Prasanna
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,662
    If you are getting a tremor thru the steering wheel during braking the most likely cause is warped rotors.

    As for winter tires, Bridgestone Blizzaks have gotten me thru New Hampshire winters with no serious problems. They are not the cheapest (about $500 for 4) but tires are the last place I'd want to cheap out.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • I have bought a certified 5-series couple months ago. I have just realized a foggy film on the chrome around the doors. I tried chrome polish, but no change.

    Any ideas on what could be used to clean and polish the chrome around the doors? Thanks
  • A while ago I received some correspondence from BMW regarding the fuel pump on my 2008 535I. To be honest I paid no attention to it but I think it related to extending the warranty on the fuel pump. The other day I was doing about 65 on the Garden State Parkway and I felt the engine lose power. The car would still do better than 60 but it lacked power and the turbo wouldn't kick in. The dash lit up with an engine that looked like it was half lit and a message came up saying that there was an engine malfunction and I had reduced power. I got the car home without incident and went on Google to see if anyone else had the same problem. I found numerous instances of other owners on other BMW sites having the same problem and the cause was a malfunnction in the high pressure fuel pump (HPFP). I called my dealer (Park Avenue BMW) and explained the problem and they said to bring the car in at 6PM and they would give me a loaner(which turned out to be a 2009 528) . By noon of the next day they called and said the car was fixed . They replaced the fuel pump. Park Avenue really did a great job for me.
    Has anyone else with a 2008 535I experienced this problem or heard about it?
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