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  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Someone over here lobbying (i.e. trolling) on behalf of GM.

    The marketplace knows better. Pick any car, any category and compare what a GM, Ford or Chrysler is worth in 3-5+ years vs. their Japanese or German counterpart. The depreciation is offensive. It has cost me less to own several $50k+ cars than the average $20k GM would have. Not to mention the indignation of rattles and fit and finish defects.

    I am a patriotic American. We are world leaders in many fields. Biotechnology, information technology, aerospace, medicine, etc.. But automobiles - it's embarassing. Is it un-patriotic to call a spade a spade? Not in my book.

    In working for several large public companies, I have always attempted to hold myself and those that worked for me to the highest standards. If the company I now own and manage could only achieve the same standards of quality as GM, I'd retire tomorrow.

    You want to be patriotic? Promote John Hopkins Hospital. Nobody in the world does what they do better. But if you are proud of GM, you are just stupid, blind or both.
  • 759397759397 Posts: 79
    So what does it really say then about GM cars if these "probelm plagued" german vehicles retain more of their value than the resale challenged GM offerings?
  • ugly1ugly1 Posts: 52
    Is this the Audi TT message board? But since I've started let me add another variable. My friends say, Hey isn't your car in the shop alot? And I reply, Well it has 40K on it now and I get oil changes done in between Audi's recommended 10K changes but the point I want to make is that nearly every time I take my car in, the *&%$*@^ idiots at the dealership seem to create a new problem and I have to take it back the next day. I just wonder how much bad service has to do with the numbers. Good help is so hard to find.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Good point - I know of people in this area that won't buy an Audi simply because of the limited options and bad reputation of the dealers. Same with Infiniti for me.
  • I was talking to an Audi Sales manager who thinks the difference in performance is small b/t the 180hp front wheel and the 225 Quattro. Further, he said that you really don't experience the Quattro except if you're turning corners extremely hard, or on wet surfaces. I've had my heart set on a 225, but am now wondering if I'd miss it. Any insight would be appreciated.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    No TT insights here - except that you should test drive each extensively yourself. When I was roadster shopping, I found that there is no substitute for your own rear end to tell you how a car performs and handles.
  • I was talking to an Audi Sales manager who thinks the difference in performance is small b/t the 180hp front wheel and the 225 Quattro. Further, he said that you really don't experience the Quattro except if you're turning corners extremely hard, or on wet surfaces. I've had my heart set on a 225, but am now wondering if I'd miss it. Any insight would be appreciated.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 780
    Woody: was the sales manager trying to sell you a 180? Audi's own sales brochure shows that the 225Q is quicker and faster by a wide margin (about 1.3 sec quicker to 60 mph and faster by 13 mph). I'm sure he's read the brochures and all the reviews, so he was probably being less than candid.

    You can never have too many horsepower or too much traction!
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    If it comes at the expense of weight and balance. Again, I'm no TT expert, but I have heard even among 180 owners in my circles the complaint that it is a heavy car. It is my understanding that Quatro adds a couple more hundred pounds.

    IMHO, quatro is a weight penalty that I would carefully consider before purchasing. Unfortunately, unlike Porsche, the Audi alternative is FWD, which isn't the best handling set-up either. I won't dispute that 225 horsepower is better than 180.

    I still repeat my point that it is a decision requiring seat of the pants testing.
  • ugly1ugly1 Posts: 52
    It is a shame that you can't get 225 w/o geting Quattro. If I ws still living in Calif I would of probably purchased a 180. But living in Cleveland I wouldn't be w/o the Quattro. I drive the car year round(probably the highest mileage '01 around - 41K). I blow by SUV's when its snowing. Probably 'cause they don't know how to use what they have. But anyway, I've also been told that the 225 is a better weight balanced machine due to the added weight/location of the Quattro. Your best deal is to drive them both but IMO the 225 is a blast, rain, shine and snow.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    more on the 180 versus 225

    Does the 180 bhp version have the KKK K03 turbo, whereas the 225 bhp gets the larger KKK K04 turbo?
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,102
    Again, like habitat said you have to drive both models to get a fell for them via your "butt-dyno." I also assume you're talking about the TT roadster which comes either 180hp/FWD or 225hp/Quattro. My only qualm with the 180hp version is that the rear suspension is not fully independent (beam connecting the 2 rear wheels). Someone correct me if I'm wrong too please. But you've got to drive 'em both!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    I think that's true because the TT is on the "A"4 platform, like the Golf, Jetta, New Beetle, & GTI.
  • michaell3michaell3 Posts: 1
    Sorry for changing the subject, but has anyone out there had problems with the brakes on their TTs (or other Audis for that matter) constantly squealing? I own a 2001 TT Roadster that squeeks every time I step on the brakes. The dealership is telling me that "all German cars have the same problem," which (I believe) is insane and "the car must be kept clean at all times," which, while making sense, doesn't explain why, even after they (or I) have cleaned the car and brakes, they still squeal. Unfortunatlely, at this point, they're telling me there's nothing they can do. Has anyone experienced a similar problem?

  • thor8thor8 Posts: 303
    Squealing is not a problem, meaning there is nothing wrong with your brakes mechanicaly, the squeal that you hear is a high frequency vibration between the pads and rotors most of the time, it is caused by the wear patern of the pads, the leading edge of the pads wears first causing a wedge shaped pad undetectable to the eye, when you ligthly step on the brakes, the rear of the pad is in more pressure than the front allowing the front to vibrate, if you step hard on it you wont hear it, there are some compounds applied to the back of the pad to spread the pressure evenly and alleviate the problem. The reason that is more prominent on German cars is because they are built for higher speeds due to the autobahn, their pads are softer because they use more carbon as a filler and less metallic elements, that is why you see more of that black dust on german car rims, but the softer pads prolong the life of the rotors and give a surer stop at high speeds.
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,676
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  • Hi. Sorry for not posting in so long. I have put 10,000 miles on my 2001 amulet red TT180 quattro coupe, and the whoosh sound of the turbo still makes me grin. As an aside, I perused the last 100 posts and the troll who disparaged the TT, and her good looks, in comparison to GM products really irritated me. Anyway, on a more positive note, I drive the car everyday into the city. While the commute doesn't give the TT a chance to hum, I appreciate the small size when manuevering in the tight garage. We have taken her on several long distance trips, and she handles better than the vast majority of cars I have driven. Granted, a Porche or Vette she is not, but she pulls .9 gs on the skid with aplomb.

    What I like best about the TT, however, is not the performance characteristics or the well-designed interior. The number 1 reason I like the TT is that it is one of my top 5 favorite designs of all time, a purely subjective view of course, but only one or two people have ever called the TT ugly. Whatever. The TT is beautiful.

    I plan to hang on to the TT for a long time, which will be interesting with kids (hopefully) on the way soon. Our other car is a 2001 BMX XI sedan, which we will most likely trade in for an X5 4.4. I reckon the TT won't work with an infant, not b/c it couldn't accomodate a child's seat, but because my maternal instincts won't allow it. That said, I still plan to hang onto the TT, even if we relegate her to weekend fun trips. Yeah, a great excuse to grab an S4 for daily commuting!

    I am looking into chipping and found the remarks you all contributed on it helpful. The manufacturer I will probably use is GIAC. A local dealer can install same. I am concerned that the chip may increase the risk of engine failure, but the other option is to upgrade to a 225, and I can't sell that to Mr. Bug. As to the warranty issues, as an attorney, the law is pretty clear--the chipping voids only that part of the warranty directly related to the chip.

    So far, the only trouble on the TT has been electric (replaced the instrument cluster, with thanks to the audisucks cite for sending me on the right route) rather than engine-related. So I hope that with reasonably gentle treatment, I can enjoy the extra horsepower (23) and torque (85) and exhaust (15) without destroying the engine.

    If anyone has anymore pros or cons on chipping or other modifications, please advise.
    Best regards to all.

  • skiman2skiman2 Posts: 11
    Hi, does anybody know if there are plans to introduce a 5 speed automatic version of the Audi TT Quatro? If so when will it go on sale.

    I'm anxious to know. Thanks in advance for your insights.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,102
    Rumor mill says an automatic will be available on 180hp FWD TTs only.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • jborden1jborden1 Posts: 12
    Hey all,

    We have had our 225 hp tt for about 3 months and the other day I noticed someone had dinged the door. There is just a small dent on the passenger door. Can dealers get these out relatively cheap. Also I notice that this board is really slow and I would have thought the tt to be talked about, so is there another site I don't know about ?

    Thanks alot

    Jonny B
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