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Read this before purchasing an Acura 3.2 CL

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  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    just make sure that they don't charge you an arm and a leg for it... you might want to check with the guys over at acura-cl.com
  • In some of the discussions it is brought up that Japanese cars not made in Japan are inferior and I for one would have to disagree.

    I am the owner of 2 domestic cars and 2 Japanese cars built in U.S. one Suburu Legacy and a Mazda 626. There is a great build quality to both the Amer-[non-permissible content removed] cars that totally eludes domestic vehicles with few exceptions.

    But if you look at two vehicles of similar retail value at initial purchase and then look at selling price 2-3 years later you'll find that the Japanese vehicle holds a better price.

    My example is a 1999 Buick Regal GS vs. Acura 3.2 of the same year. The price of the Buick drops like a stone! Is it all hype?
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    Having previously owned a Made in Japan 1997 Acura 2.5TL, I can say that the current generation TL is quite a dissapointment. The Old TL was not only a handsome looking car (The looks wear/age very well)but it was tight as a drum....the build quality, fit/finish and interior materials were simply top notch and in tune with what one could have expected of an Acura automobile of the time. It was built as good as the old Legend sedan.

    The current car is about $4K less than the old Japanese TL sedans and guess why? Because the current car is a cheap Honda Accord clone, looks and feels like one right down to the interior materials, chintzy water based paint, thin sheetmetal, etc.

    For people that never owned Acuras from the "Golden Years" simply don't know how good these cars used to be. The current RL is the last one of the Made in Japan breed and it even doesn't compare to the old Legend sedans and coupes.
  • wilcoxwilcox Posts: 581
    "If carmakers had balls they'd replace, immediately, defective products."

    Well, Ford is very good at owning up to defects and fixing them promptly. Yet people bash them for it. Ford is busy protecting their customers and they get badmouthed for it.

    After reading this discussion, I think Acura needs to have a recall on it's Customer Service Dept.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    "Well, Ford is very good at owning up to defects and fixing them promptly. Yet people bash them for it. Ford is busy protecting their customers and they get badmouthed for it."

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but past/current litigation and consumer protection lawsuits prove otherwise. Ford is known to manufacture and sell defective products. Prime example is the 20 million or so cars and trucks they sold with knowingly defective ignition switches that were prone to cause fires. I had one of these "Flaming" Fords, a 1988 Tempo GL sedan. Thankfully never experienced it, but that car was part of one of the biggest and most embarrasing product defect recalls in history.

    Ford typically denies problems time and time again and puts its lawyers in the front lines of defense to fender off consumer product defect lawsuits. So when they are finally forced by either a Judge or the government to issue massive product recalls that's when Ford appears to step to the plate (Yeah right!).

    Ford has a very tainted and very poor quality product record and that hasn't changed to this day with the numerous fiascos they are involved with...the botched new product launches and the Ford/Firestone fiascos.

    Bill Ford has a very big and uphill battle ahead of him to restore product quality, eliminate botched product launches and restore the confidence of the American consumer on its products again.

    Inform yourself a little better on the reality of Ford Motor Company:

    http://www.lemonaidcars.com/
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    teo-

    I can't believe that my CL-S could be BETTER than it is! I have 12,000+ miles on it since 3/28/01 and not ONE problem! Three oil/filter changes and one tire rotation/balance and that's it! The seats are VERY comfortable. The leather is soft. The car is quiet. Compared to my previous car, none of this is surprising. I can't imagine anything more comfortable. Of course, I haven't driven everything out there, but I am VERY happy with this car. There are a few things that I would like to see changed, but it's no big deal.

    As for FORD, I agree with you. However, I'm not sure if they are WORSE than any other car company, but they certainly have had their problems. It all comes down to saving $$$$$$ which is what business is all about I guess, but sooner or later it reaches a point where you CAN'T skimp anymore on quality. I forgot that before I got my 1987 T-Bird, I had a 1986 Ford Taurus. I only had it for 6 months because it kept stalling at VERY inappropriate times, like entering an intersection or merging on a highway etc. I can't tell you how many times I almost got killed! I always had to be ready to put it in neutral and start it quickly before I got creamed. They never could figure out what it was despite replacing some computer part. I believe that within the past year or so there was a recall for this. I think it had something to do with where the part was located and would overheat.

    fastdriver
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Yup.. my CL is built as well as my old Integra which was made in Japan... yup...
  • wainwain Posts: 479
    " I think it went out with the Pledge of Allegiance, prayer, and responsibility for ones own actions. "

    Quality is not related to these, poor quality is more related to coporate greed.

    Hey did you hear? - Ken Lay at Enron gets $60 million in severance pay.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    wain-

    "Hey did you hear? - Ken Lay at Enron gets $60 million in severance pay."

    Another former executive from Enron, Clifford Baxter, was found shot in his car- suicide they say.

    fastdriver
  • patstlpatstl Posts: 1
    I have had my acura 3.2CL type S in sundance gold since june of 2000. It is by far the best car that i have ever owned. I only have one issue with the car and that is ever once and awhile i can heear the breaks squeek. Buts that all not paint problems nothing. Also to all of you that have had acura problems and are battleing with the dealships i feel your pain I OWNED A FORD MUSTANG ONCE I KNOW ABOUT FIGHTING WITH THE DEALERSHIP. Also since i purchased my acura the dealership has been great i have never had no problems dealing with them on any warranty work hell i have never even met a so called acura rep and a goodwill what. These are thing that the dealership handels for me. I usually drop the car in the service center and fly off in a loaner car. reguardless of what there doing weather it be an oil change or a vechile service, there service is number one i have never been treated like that at FORD. As a matter of fact the delership were i bought my acura's service center is rated number 1 in the nation. Bottom line here all car make have some defects because they are made my humans and humans make mistakes, I love my cl and would never trade it for an over rated over priced BMW or LEXUS. if anyone wants more info e-mail me patrick@stlmo.com
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    "I love my cl and would never trade it for an over rated over priced BMW or LEXUS."

    Oh please don't, because then you wouldn't know how to appreciate how much superior either BMW or Lexus are to your CL Accord coupe clone.

    To each his own right?
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    does GM pays you to be a troll? OR is it that you have a vengeance against the Honda line-ups? Yes, we all know that you think the Impala is superior to ANY Acuras, including the NSX... *to each his own* :D
  • tlintlin Posts: 2
    I have recently went in due to shifting problems with my transmission (delay from 2nd to 3rd). They discovered a leak in my transmission as well as a howling sound when I drive. They are replacing the transmission with a new one. However I have called another dealership and they told me they had 3 cars in due to transmission problems as well.

    Anyone else? Hope it's not a design problem.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    tlin-

    2001 CL-S, 12,200+ miles since 3/28/01 and NO problems so far! Compared to my previous car, I feel like I died and went to heaven. This is the BEST car I have ever owned!

    IF anything does go wrong, I will not hesitate to post it here and on my webpage.

    fastdriver
  • tlintlin Posts: 2
    I have recently went in due to shifting problems with my transmission (delay from 2nd to 3rd). They discovered a leak in my transmission as well as a howling sound when I drive. They are replacing the transmission with a new one. However I have called another dealership and they told me they had 3 cars in due to transmission problems as well.

    Anyone else? Hope it's not a design problem.
  • maybe your problem with Ford was your inability to communicate in the English language. Have you ever tried spell check?
  • the guys in acura-cl.com will have the answers the your query...
  • My 2001 CL-S has 30,000 miles on it and I haven't had a problem yet. I cannot believe it, having had about 20 GM cars in my time. My Corvettes spent more time at the dealer than in my garage.
    I have heard people say, "Buy foreign and you will never go back to domestic." I am a believer.
    The car rides like a dream. And I love the Navi System, but $162 for a new disc is a bit much after spending $2000 for the System.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    smiledr-

    I agree with you. Although I have to say that until I bought my 99 Chrysler 300M, "Motor Trend's Car of the Year", my domestic cars were fine. I had no problems with them until the Chrysler.

    My 2001 CL-S will be a year old on 3/28. I have had 12,500 perfect, trouble-free miles! I love this car.

    fastdriver
  • slzslz Posts: 10
    I own a 2001 3.2 TL. About 1 month ago I noticed a small crack in the windshield in the lower right hand corner. There is no obvious mark from where a rock might have hit. The fracture seems to be expanding. Has anyone else had this type of problem?
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