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Honda Accord Quality Control Issues

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  • Just purchased a new 07 Accord 4dr. I noticed that the rear doors are not a very good fit when closed. The driver side rear door is worse than the passenger side, but neither look especially pretty. The edge of the driver side door appears to stick out from the rest of the car a little.
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    I see some other Accords like this, and some look OK. Just wondering if this is an easy fix or is it for life ?

    Am I just being too finicky here ?

    (if anyone is interested I can email a picture, I don't have one on a host site to paste here)

    thanks
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    You can post the jpg picture in your carspace photo alblum, and then put a link to it in the forum
  • Thanks, I'm new here, didn't realize I could do that - will give it a try now :)
  • Looks like I succeeded
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    maybe it's me. i don't see any of those images posted in the messages.
  • Yes, I can see the pictures just fine.
  • If the door gaps look OK, but the door isn't adjusted flush to adjacent sheetmetal, then the adjustment is easy.

    The door strike will need a slight adjustment "IN" to bring the door "IN". The door strike is the U shaped silver catch located in the door jam. The 2 phillips screws need to be loosened, and the strike moved in the distance the door needs to be moved in.

    I would think the dealer will handle the adjustment under warranty.

    Mrbill
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Depending on your browser "view image" or "show picture" (or something similar) might show them for you. I didn't see them at first, but after I did that I could.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    I actually think the door edge needs to drop slightly. You have a wider gap at the top, than at the bottom.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,531
    That's what I see, too. You need to shim out the top hinge I think. A body shop can do this of course. it's kind of a pain, takes some time.

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  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    If it was 6 years old, I'd have my big fat aunt Thelma hang on it. But being as it's brand new, schedule time at the dealer to fix.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    Given that both the rear doors have similiar gaps, I am willing to bet my money that that gap has been part of the design...to accomodate the door guard rubber strip comfortably!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,618
    how about some side view pictures?
  • My thoughts exactly. The pics are too much from an angle, they need to be taken straight on. It's too hard to tell if the character lines follow as they should from the door to the rear quarter panel to check if the door is high or not.

    Mrbill
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    What would really show the gap is a shot from next to the taillight. The door can be adjusted though (hinges and latch), so if it is off, it can be fixed.
  • Yea, actually sighting down the quarter panel to the door will show better if things are aligned, but it can be a pain sometimes getting the camera to focus where you want it to.

    At least the Accord uses bolt-on hinges, not like the welded on hinges some other cars use. Those must be fun to adjust.

    Mrbill
  • Thanks for the input

    yeah, when I posted the pics all three were visible to me. Now that I come back the first one is just a red x in a small box.

    The driver side looks a lot worse from the rear (the pass side is actually acceptable -just - because it does not stick out from the body). I've looked at a lot of Accords recently (becoming door crack obsessed)and while some are not perfect, most are very good, and some are not so good. Looks like rushed assembly to me. Mine is the worst I've seen.

    Most cars these days have doors that fit so well that the side of the car almost looks like one continiuous panel. I expected better from Honda.

    I've had a couple of people tell me that my rear driver side door is not closed properly (that's how it looks when coming up on the car from behind on the driver side). I think that moving it in a little would probably make it look a lot better. Don't know if I should try this myself or just let the dealer take care of it (means a 40m each way trip, and a wait)

    To be blunt, it looks like crap at the moment - i.e. a bad crash repair job. Thankfully it seems like an easy fix. Other vehicle (a GM) looks much better.
  • blaneblane Posts: 2,017
    I'm sure that your dealer will have the job done to your satisfaction.

    Your concerns reflect the need for all of us to not fall in love with a particular vehicle. In order to be satisfied with our selection it is incumbent upon each of us to carefully inspect the vehicle BEFORE signing the contract.
  • I collected this one after dark. Worked on the assumption that Hondas were perfect. Didn't know about this site then. Still, seems like with just a little inconvenience it will be fixed. Just wish the dealer had looked it over better :(
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    with this new information, it may be that the lock latch might need to be pushed towards the inside to prevent it from latching on too early!
  • I think the pass side door is just about acceptable - not as good as you'd expect on a Honda, but acceptable.

    I used a credit card straight edge to ascertain how the doors aligned with the body. The pass side rear door is just about flush, but the driver side rear door sticks out about 1/8" +. I didn't measure the gap, just guestimated. It clearly needs an adjustment. Will call the dealer and see what they say.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    wow!

    After this post, I started looking at 2005/06 Accord and Camry and saw that even the 2004 Camry has really wide gaps betweeen the pillars and the doors, especially the rear ones. I drive a 2003 Mazda6 and the fit is way better on that car than these revered Camrys. check it out here

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    if you do not see the image, try this link
    http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/401000-401999/401028_61_full.j- - - - pg

    To top it, this level of fit is achieved by the unionized Labor at the Auto-alliance plant at Flat Rock Michigan where it was built.
  • I started the thread about a wndshield crack a few months ago. Sorry for the delay in reporting back.
    When I took my car to the dealer, the Service Manager ran the point of a ballpoint pen along the crack until it seemed to snag. He said that was the point of impact. I tried it and wasn't sure whether it snagged or not. Anyway, I had the windshield replaced - Cdn$600 - and my insurance didn't cover it because I have a high deductible.
    Not a great start with a new car, but a really like the car - it is the poor man's Lexus.
  • I had a ride in a 2003 Mazda 6 and it felt like a very solid car. The Ford connection put me off buying one, but since I recently been looking closely at body fit, the Fords are way better than the Hondas
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    Or maybe the poor man's Acura. ;)
  • 2006 Accord clutch slipping. My Accord's clutch with only 32500 km and mostly hwy driving, is slipping and needs to be replaced at cost of ~$1300. This is an experience of a driver with ~600 K km and 4 other Accords with manual transmission never having any problem with the clutches. Still owns 91 Accord with 312 K km and original clutch. Dealer service manager is not prepared to cover replacement saying clutch it's not covered, not interested in finding real root cause of this failure implying driving habits to a senior driver with 32 years of driving manual Hondas.
  • 2006 Accord clutch slipping. My Accord's clutch with only 32500 km and mostly hwy driving, is slipping and needs to be replaced at cost of ~$1300. This is an experience of a driver with ~600 K km and 4 other Accords with manual transmission never having any problem with the clutches. Still owns 91 Accord with 312 K km and original clutch. Dealer service manager is not prepared to cover replacement saying clutch it's not covered, not interested in finding real root cause of this failure implying driving habits to a senior driver with 32 years of driving manual Hondas.
  • But when you faced with a real problem you really get pissed off. Keep reading ....
    2006 Accord clutch slipping. My Accord's clutch with only 32500 km and mostly hwy driving, is slipping and needs to be replaced at cost of ~$1300. This is an experience of a driver with ~600 K km and 4 other Accords with manual transmission never having any problem with the clutches. Still owns 91 Accord with 312 K km and original clutch. Dealer service manager is not prepared to cover replacement saying clutch it's not covered, not interested in finding real root cause of this failure implying driving habits to a senior driver with 32 years of driving manual Hondas.
  • 2006 Accord clutch slipping. My Accord's clutch with only 32500 km and mostly hwy driving, is slipping and needs to be replaced at cost of ~$1300. This is an experience of a driver with ~600 K km and 4 other Accords with manual transmission never having any problem with the clutches. Still owns 91 Accord with 312 K km and original clutch. Dealer service manager is not prepared to cover replacement saying clutch it's not covered, not interested in finding real root cause of this failure implying driving habits to a senior driver with 32 years of driving manual Hondas.
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