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Honda Accord Quality Control Issues
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I thought the balance shaft oil seal was a voluntary repair bulletin. Not an official recall.
1) What part of the Accord's seats are actually leather?
2) My car has only 38K miles on it, and is garage kept. yesterday when cleaning and moisturizing the leather, I noticed the leather or vinyl starting to tear on the outside side bolsters of both front seats Has anyone else had this problem?
1994-97 Acura CL, Honda Accord, Prelude, and Odyssey models equipped with four-cylinder engines.
Problem: Defective engine oil seals can slip causing the engine to drain of oil and eventually seize.
Warranty coverage: Although Honda maintains this isn't a safety recall (hmm, suden engine seizure on the highway, sounds scary to me), the company will inspect and replace the seal and install a clip to ensure the seal cannot move. There are about 1.4 million vehicles involved in this worldwide program. Repairs had been delayed due to poor parts availability.
1995 Accord V6, Acura NSX, Acura 2.5 TL; all 1996-97 Hondas and Acuras, except for the Acura Integra Type R and the Isuzu-built Acura and Honda Passport.
Problem: Engine malfunctions cause emissions to exceed the federal norm.
Warranty coverage: In a settlement with the Environmental Protection Agency, Honda extended its emissions warranty to 14 years or 150,000 miles. The automaker has agreed to the EPA's demand that it provide a full engine check and emissions-related repairs at 50,000 to 75,000 miles and give free tune-ups at 75,000 to 150,000 miles. This means that costly engine components and exhaust system parts like catalytic converters will be replaced free of charge. It is estimated the free check-ups, repairs, and tuneups will cost Honda over $250 million. The story of the settlement was first reported on page 6 of the June 15, 1998 edition of Automotive News.
Judging by Honda's past actions in denying its responsibility for these kinds of problems, don't hesitate to complain to the EPA if you encounter a scintilla of evidence that the company won't keep its promise. Canadian Honda owners are out of luck.
I still remember how FMC fought a recall on their thin film ignition problem-think it was CA that ordered them to do the recall. The honda problem would make the car impossible to start-FMC's thin film ignition problem would make the car die while driving-how great would that be on a freeway.
By the way, the Solara has been trouble free driving so far with just oil changes. It is a very quiet car as compared to my old Accord V-6 which I hope made it to LEMON heaven. I wouldn't wish that car on anyone!
By the way, I picked up a 1984 Maxima in addition to my Solara. I got the Maxima with only 17K on the odometer! It is now my project car as it sat in a retired lady's garage since 1995.
My cousin and her husband bought a new '84 Corolla. That particular model began to exhibit a somewhat high % of problems in the automatic transmission (this was the first FWD Corolla). Within 1 1/2 years, they had a complete transmission failure and Toyota wouldn't cover it. They eventually took it to arbitration and they won. They sold the Corolla shortly thereafter and wouldn't have another Toyota if they tried to give it to them.
At least when I had the "clunk in reverse" problem with my 2000 EX V6, Honda replaced it, no questions asked, well before the whole thing became front page news. But I'm fully aware that not every Accord owner has been treated quite that well, at least before the extended warranty. Quite honestly, I think it's the dealer more than anything, and the service manager at my dealership was very supportive.
paint.
The cars still manufactured in Japan utilize an oil based paint on its cars. Unfortunately, if you need collison or body work in the USA on your Japanese manufactured car, you will get water based paint.
re2283 ...Hondas I-4 has proven itself repeatedly to be very long-lived. The V-6 is still working on that distinction. Only 200k-300k mile entries need apply. I'm somewhat biased as I have only had Honda 4s, but am pulling for the recent family member.
my point is the v6 "engine" is just a durable/reliabe as the four banger "engine"...
give an example (off the nhtsa web site) of what you are talking about...because i have no frickin' clue where you are coming from...!
Hes kinda like a magician: Magician's pull things out of their hats, where as Mike pulls things out of his.. well u know..
Honda has been making the V6 Accord since '95, I believe, so maybe they just need more time to crack the barrier. I hope so.
But in the meantime, I-4's rule the roost for longevity.
what do ya think...are we talkin' beavis and butthead here??
according2me,
i haven't seen any honda four bangers with over 200k...and i haven't seen any v6s with over 200k. that doesn't mean i should assume that neither engine would do 200k or more miles!
Took in a 88 Legend last summer with 323,000 miles on it. The V-6 had never been apart. It was a 5 speed on it's second clutch.
The body was pretty rough but it seemed to still run just fine.
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Bulletins for 1999 Honda Accord LX Sedan V6-2997cc 3.0L SOHC (VTEC) MFI
Emissions Recalls
TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title 99-085 OCT 01 Recall - EGR Port Clogging/Warranty Extension
Service Bulletins
TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title 01-097 FEB 02 Instruments - Clock Light Inoperative
98-061 NOV 01 A/T - In-Warranty Exchange Program
00-088 AUG 01 Brake Discs - Refinishing Guidelines
01-009 AUG 01 Engine - Oil Leaks
98-011 AUG 01 Keyless Entry - Transmitter
01-070 AUG 01 M/T - 5th Gear Grinds On Upshift
01-026 APR 01 Steering Column Tilt Lever - Decreased Clamping Force
00-099 DEC 00 Wiring Terminal - Repair Instructions
00-095 DEC 00 Moonroof - Squeak Noise With Sunshade Open
00-088 NOV 00 Brake Rotor - Refinishing Guidelines
00-089 OCT 00 Supplemental Restraint System - Inspection
00-038 AUG 00 A/T - Vibration When Driving at Low Speeds
00-064 AUG 00 Windshield Molding - Warped/Deformed
00-063 AUG 00 Special Tool - Chassis EAR(TM), Diagnostic Tool
00-018 JUL 00 MIL ON - DTC's P0171 & P0172 Set
00-049 JUL 00 Immobilizer System - Type 2: Operation/Part Replacement
99-053 JUN 00 Immobilizer Key - Key Code Duplicator
00-041 APR 00 Rear Door Sash Trim - Wrinkled
99-018 APR 00 Required Special Tools And Equipment,
98-019 MAR 00 Audio Unit - Warranty Exhange/Out of Warranty Repair
00-015 MAR 00 Audio Unit with CD Player/Changer - Error Codes
00-022 MAR 00 Torque Converter Oil Seal - Installation Tool
99-063 DEC 99 Muffler Paint Peeling
97-015 DEC 99 Service Publications - Availability & Ordering
99-090 NOV 99 Glove Box Door - Rattle
99-093 NOV 99 Wheel(s) - Clicking Noise
99-088 NOV 99 A/C, Heater, Temperature & Fan Control Knobs - Loose
98-031 NOV 99 Aftermarket On Board Diagnostic (OBD) || Tester
99-062 OCT 99 Paint Damage From Environmental Fallout
99-075 OCT 99 Updated Troubleshooting - DTCs P1456 and P1457
99-038 AUG 99 MIL ON - DTC P0401 EGR Flow Insufficient
98-084 AUG 99 Clutch Pedal - Noise
99-066 AUG 99 MIL ON - P0304 and/or P0306 Codes
99-074 AUG 99 Troubleshooting DTCs - P1456 & P1457
99-040 AUG 99 Wheel Bearings, Rear - Noise
99-061 JUL 99 Ball Joint Removal and Installation Tools
99-030 MAY 99 Recommended Materials
98-056 APR 99 Fuel Gauge - Readings Are Inaccurate
99-010 JAN 99 Body - 1999 Paint Code Reference
98-051 AUG 98 Special Tool Loan Program
- Some or all models of the '99 Accord with I4 or V6 engines share such amenities as paint, mufflers, glove boxes, ball joints, wheel bearings, fuel gauges, audio units, rear door sashes, immobilizers, wiring terminals, steering columns, keyless entry, brake discs, windshield moldings, clock lights, HVAC control knobs, SRS and OBD II.
In other words, this extensive list of TSBs provides little information about I4 vs. V6. And as mikek37 already pointed out, TSBs are not reliability records anyway.
but anyway, i'll bet if you search under 4 cylinder, you'll get almost all the same results. most of those tsbs he posted have nothing to do with the powertrain!
"Here are the statistics. What would you like me to prove with them?"
It may be because I got my car at the very end of the life cycle for that design, but it seems the engineers got all the bugs worked out. It sounds like there are a few bugs with the new design, but nothing like what happens with a new Ford, GM, or Chrysler product. Honda to me stands for a quality and sporty car that is affordable for middle class folks. They cost perhaps a thousand or so more than a comparable domestic product, but you save much more than that over the life of the car because of better mpg and fewer repairs.
I've got a GM credit card with more than 2,000 on it, and my other car is a 15 year old Olds. When it dies I may be tempted by a "bargain" car from GM, but I keep reminding myself that the Focus, with 4,800 off with a Ford credit card, did not end up a bargain in the long run.
Thanks
I've had it for over 10 years now. Use it for EVERYTHING outside of online stuff. Groceries, gas, you name it. Maybe it's special or somthing. But it pays 2%.
I hope it starts later so I can get to work!
But, let's see....
Yeah, my clock light bulb did burn out once...what a horrible problem that was! One of the techs popped it out and replaced the 50 cent bulb. Took him maybe five minutes.
And, yes, my sunroof does squeak. About twice a year, I have to open it up and wipe the seals with silicone to stop this. It's due now.
And, darn it...I keep forgetting...the paint on one of my mufflers has, indeed peeled a bit.
Need to get that heat resistant Krylon flat black and give it a shot.
Maybe I've just been blessed..?