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Low End Sedans (under $16k)

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    I rode in the Falcon (as a taxi) a couple of weeks ago and it is a good-looking car. I saw some prices advertised on dealer lots that I think would translate to below $15k US. Maybe that was for a stripped model.

    Have you seen the redesigned Spectra? It's lightyears ahead of the old one IMO.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Actually, I don't think the name of this discussion is why there's not much going on here. I think it's because it wasn't showing up in any of the Make/Model searches because it was only categorized as a discussion about "Sedans" and not linked to any specific vehicles.

    All discussions can be categorized in such a way that they will show up in specific make/model search lists. However, the categorizations are limited to six vehicles.

    I put two Japanese, two American and two Korean vehicles in the categories - you can see this by looking at the header here.

    And on that note, I will propose a title change. There are no European vehicles under $15k - how about if we drop that from the title?

    I don't want to get too caught up in discussing the discussion :-) but if any of you feel strongly that I haven't picked the most representative 6 vehicles, tell me about it over the next couple of days. Then we'll get back to talking about the cars and see if we don't get some more input than we've had lately.

    Okay?

    :-)
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    I looked at Edmund's own Sedans under $15k and found that of the five most often researched you have only included two, Sentraand Elantra. I think it might be a service to those people researching sedans under $15k to at least include the 5 most frequently researched.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    Also what is the price point for the Smart cars due here soon from Europe?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I was trying to spread them out to fit the title of the discussion, and also trying to remember what has been talked about here vs. what hasn't. If we categorize this as those five that are currently the most researched, we'll have four Japanese sedans and one Korean.

    Maybe we should just call this Low End Sedans without regard to the so-called nationality of the brand? After all, that's pretty much a red herring these days, anyway.
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    I didn't mean that you should use the five most researched exclusively, only that they should be included. Is there any reason why all the cars (hatchback and sedan) under $15k may not be included? That would seem to me to be the sensible (and equitable to all the manufacturers) thing to do.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    As I mentioned, a discussion can only be associated with six vehicles, no more.

    I don't know why that is, I just know that it IS. :)
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    Sorry, I missed that point.
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    Changing the name to just Low End Sedans is fine with me. And linking this discussion to the Echo is fine although some might wonder why not the Corolla. Well, if memory serves, the Corolla has not been discussed that much and with my having an Echo and being a frequent poster here, it makes some sense.
  • 280hp280hp Posts: 36
    >Have you seen the redesigned Spectra?

    no. i havent. though without seeing it, i would say it wouldnt change my opinion.

    :)

    in the kia range if i were after low end, i would probably gravitate towards the rio...

    :)

    Ford Falcon

    15k usd. wow.that would b great if it were the base model 8 cylinder manual...

    now if only ford would bring the car here @ that price point...

    :)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    Well, if you're looking for a V8, then the Spectra won't excite you. But if you like the Corolla and Civic, you might just like the Spectra. Yes, it's that good. Time will tell if it's as reliable.
  • 280hp280hp Posts: 36
    u're right. i dont like the civic or the corolla anymore.not since the echo and accent became available.

    i still have some doubts about the accent because its korean, and the echo's styling doesnt sit well with me.

    the spectra just doesnt seem right as a 2nd car. possibly the rio. but it would have to be a fair bit cheaper than the accent to be attractive.

    ps- currently we have a corolla and a maxima. both are base model stick shifts. im looking to upgrade the maxima, hopefully to something german and 8 cylinder, while downgrading the corolla, either to echo or somethin korean...
  • tazerelitazereli Posts: 241
    As the originator of this board a looooong time ago, I think the name change to just "low end cars" is a good idea. I say have at it.

    Regards,

    Kyle
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Done! :)

    But I did make it Sedans rather than Cars, since that's the board we're on.

    Carry on!
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    "Mazda3" <- on topic :)

    Dinu
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    my screen by just typing in a "c" in the searchbox, then selecting on and ultimately searching for "Chevrolet Aveo"! Glad to still this one's still here and I agree-it's a good name change, indeed. Question:wouldn't the Mazda 3 be excluded from this discussion? Isn't it gonna run more than $15,000? The new Kia Spectra for 2004 1/2 will run around $12,750, IIRC. That doesn't include A/C but I'd add it in with my order for a red 2004 1/2 Kia Spectra with a 5-speed manual tranny and factory 4-wheel disc brakes and side curtain airbags. Still it will not top over the $15,000 mark, before T & L are added. Point being is that this new re-design is a nice, new substantial car with a nice, new shape. It's those curves up the sides of the front wheelwells I like, among other things, those other things would include it's nice overall shape and slant-angle slightly downward. D'ya notice that, too? Looks sharp to me. It has the HyunKia CVVT engine, too, for improved gas mileage and emissions.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    What, exclude the car that the editors of Edmunds.com voted "Most Wanted" car under $15,000!? Even though the only car you can get at that price has 4-65 A/C and roll-down windows? Technically, the 3 does come in under $15,000 so we need to include it. But maybe only the 3i sedan, since the 3s stickers way over $15k?
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    The new Spectra looks promising, although I still like the Echo HB - a bit weird looking (and very tiny), but a great 5spd unit and not too noisy (for its size).

    The 3i has to be put on the list. If you just chose A/C does it come under $15K USD? In Canada it retails for under $17K+$1000 A/C - still a good price, although TOO close to a well-equipped Elantra sedan with A/C+all power.

    Dinu
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    about Kia having two completely different '04 Spectras on that board, so I won't beat the dead horse that hard here. Can't for the life of me figure out what they're thinking about. Kia used to have good marketing and bad cars. Now that the cars are improving they're making marketing blunders left and right.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    When I bought my ECHO three years ago I considered a Korean car, but I rejected them for the following reasons:
    1) Korean car companies are often on the verge of bankruptcy.
    2) The "dealer" always seemed to be primarily engaged in selling something else. The KIA or Daewoo line appeared to be just an afterthought.
    3) My experience with Korean cars that friends owned was that they were not well made and broke down often especially after 30 or 40 thousand miles. These were cars made in the early 90s.
    4) I thought the Korean cars I looked at were not as well made as the Japanese cars.
    5) The cars were ridiculously low to the ground and difficult to get in and out of.
       In spite of that, Korean cars are what low end cars are all about. Luckily I had enough money to buy an ECHO, the high end of the low end scale. But I wonder what the experiences of people who own Korean cars made recently is. How do they hold up? (examples please) How is service? Can they get parts? Do they honor the warranty?
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