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  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    Theres something to be said about that but there is still the fact that it LOOKS more interesting. Plus there are some contouring around the radio etc that bring out VISUAL interest. Adding a little bit of color and contouring goes a long way towards making a dash appealing to the eye. Oh and I suppose it makes a difference that they used FAKE (oh no!) carbon fiber on the dash as well on the P5.
  • freddy_kfreddy_k Posts: 376
    Don't worry, I agree with you, but while I was looking at these cars I found that the Protege fans claimed a higher quality intererior, fooled by the more interesting, as you put it, design and not realizing that the actual quality is the same. I do commend them for adding that little something to the car, fake or not.
    I was told before I looked that the Impreza (my final choice) that it had an inferior interior to the Protege, but it turned out that the quality was a least equal once you looked past the bleak, uninterrupted blackness of it. I'll assume they put more effort into the WRX though.
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    owning one for a while The one thing that is going to bother me about the P5 is the fact that they brought the fake suede-like fabric up onto the sill of the window. I've started to notice that my left arm is starting to matt down the fabric. I have a feeling that it's not going to look too good after a while. As far as quality of materials goes I think your right in saying that the Civic, Protege, Corolla & Impreza all seem to share about the same quality of materials. The Protege spends a bit more time on style than the rest. This all refers to the center console. All the gauge clusters of these cars are pretty blah but easy to read.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    Just wondering if the Corolla you saw with the boring interior was the LE with the woodgrain or another model? I saw the S with all-black interior and THAT was boring to me (but I don't like black interiors anyway).
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    I looked at both of them. Personally I'm not a fan of wood-grain trim in cars. I would rather see tastfully used material like metal and different textures of vinyl, plastic etc. Maybe even toss in some colors. Your right maybe the S affected my feeling about the interior. That car was very very plain.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Posts: 932
    My DX has a silver strip running along the bottom of the windows. I wonder if this is painted or real metal? It looks pretty real to me.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    They probably still used real metal in Corollas back in '96, before the de-contenting craze hit all the automakers.

    BTW... I saw a Lexus ad for the LS430 today and it struck me how similar the front/side profile looked like the '02 Corolla, but much beefier of course. I wonder if there was a conscious effort on Toyota's part for the new Corolla to resemble the Lexus.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    Check out's first drive of the Suzuki Aerio, link on the home page. They were pretty impressed. My question is, why spend $15k for an Aerio when you can get a Corolla LE or S, or a loaded Elantra GT for the same money?

    There's also a big buzz about the newly-unveiled Saturn Ion, the replacement for the S-Series. Check out the Saturn Ion board if you want to see pics and commentary. The exterior styling is interesting, especially the 4-door coupe; the engine is the 2.2L 137 hp Ecotech; and the interior is... well, think of the ECHO on growth hormones. At least it has full gauges.
  • freddy_kfreddy_k Posts: 376
    At lower prices you usually have a choice. GM makes cars at these prices with all sorts of gizmos, gadgets and blinking lights, at the expense of a decent car. On the other extreme why would someone pay more then this for a car that comes with no options? because it's the drive they are looking for.
    I just chose the bottom end Imprezza over the top end of many cars that come with way more features becuase it drove nicer, handled better, and had a more comfortable (hey, I never said nicer) interior then any of them. Looking past the outward appearance took some guts though!

    As for the Saturn, I expect the new Saturn should drive just as, um... zzzzzzzzz.... snore.... -what's that, I must have been driving a Saturn ;-)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    to the article backy mentions: First Drive: 2002 Suzuki Aerio.

    Sedans Message Board
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    The Suzuki Aerio at first glance reminds me of Toyota's Echo. Short and squishy look and kind of a cute look. I like the looks of the Aerio SX more than the sedan and it does strike a resemblance to the planned new Daewoo Topanga. Suzuki build quality? Should be fine. I haven't heard any horror stories about Suzuki build quality or performance but it's not something I would worry about. Actually, Suzuki is at the top of my Japanese car list. Should bop over to Motor Trend and see if they have a Daewoo "name the U100 winner" update. I e-mailed DaewooUS and they said they're still working out the publishing details on releasing the winner's name and the details regarding the give away, etc. I think a lot more of Daewoo that they're following through and giving a Topanga away like they said they would.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    "I think a lot more of Daewoo that they're following through and giving a Topanga away like they said they would."
    by iluvmysephia1

    Prolly the best way to move a new or used Daewoo, is to GIVE them away.

    -old head
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Years 2000-02. Range from $7985 to $20,568. Average asking price $12,892-- better than I would have thought. The listing didn't sort correctly, couldn't find who wanted $20.5, but Budget Rent-a-car was selling a whole bunch for $20.2+. What's that tell you about rentals selling at low price? These were for 2001's. I assume Budget dickers. I know Enterprise advertises that they are non-negotiable.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    Anybody notice as they complete this year's Federal Tax Return the word that appears on the bottom left corner of all the forms? Hmmmm.... subliminal advertising, perhaps? ;-)
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Happy Easter to All!

    God Bless,
  • lawman1967lawman1967 Posts: 314
    I don't come to a car list for Christianity. Let's stick to cars, shall we?
  • freddy_kfreddy_k Posts: 376
    I was refraining from saying something myself :-)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    As you are telling him not to. There's something called free speech, and unfortunately too many people in this country are so hellbent on enforcing the rights of the audience that you forget that the messenger has the right to say what he wants too.

    (Before you point out that you're Canadian, I'll remind you that Edmunds is a U.S. business.)

    If you don't like Larry's message, don't read it. There's freedom of choice for you.



    P.S. Happy Easter to you, Trudy and LJ, Larry!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    If so, you may want to read this ...


  • lawman1967lawman1967 Posts: 314
    Happy Easter is fine, its the "God Bless" part that I don't care for. Even that is ok if done in an appropriate context, but this is a car list.

    I have no want or need for Christianity, and should have to be bombarded with it on a car list.
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