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Volvo XC90 - MSRPVolvo XC70 - MSRPLand Rover Disco - MSRPAudi Allroad - $2753 over invoiceBMW X5 - $3099 over invoiceNissan Murano - MSRPLexus RX300 - $3865 over invoice
And some popular domestic "TMV" numbers:
Ford Explorer - $404 over invoiceJeep Grand Cherokee - $417 over invoiceCadillac Escalade - $919 over invoiceFord Expedition - $412 over invoiceDodge Durango - $525 over invoiceGMC Envoy - $750 over invoice
So, all the imports sell at or near MSRP, even the venerable and/or soon to be replaced models like RX300 and XC70.
All the domestics sell for Invoice +, including the brand new and/or very hot models such as the Escalade and Expedition.
Reminder: Buick sells over 5000 RDV's each month, not 4000.
hopeitsfriday, you have cited "Buick's poor reliability records" twice now. The JD Power surveys I have seen indicate Buick has a record of high reliability going back at least 7 years (the 1998 JD Power "long-term durability" survey is the oldest that I have seen). Here is a link to the JD Power surveys:
Take a look at Initial Quality, Long-term Durability, Customer Satisfaction, Sales Satisfaction, and Service Satisfaction, to name five. They are ALL consistently at the top of the ratings.
If I am wrong about Buick, I'd really like to know. Could you please link me to the data you are using that indicates Buick's problematic history?
* inferior AWD system* lacking interior space* sub-standard transmission* poor quality/reliability* missing luxury features* low sales* non "green" engine* $33,000 price tag* non-enthusiast nature
I remember when you said, "When one doesn't know all the fact, he or she just comes off as ignorance."
I couldn't have said it better myself (OK, maybe a little better).
It was fun, though.
BTW, It's good to "hear" from you again. I don't post too often anymore, but you are almost a ghost.
I just hit 25K after our 3000+ mile Seattle-San Diego-Seattle road trip last month. Mountains, ice, snow, rain, sunshine, and back again...it was "all good."
How's Gamera doing?
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