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2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • Russ Darrow Honda - Milwaukee, WI
    Car price with dest. $22,200
    5% Tax
    Their service fee is a bit high at $299
    Title/Lien fees $99
    Rate 2.9%

    Good experience. Good luck!
  • pegasus17pegasus17 Posts: 536
    REF: 28100
    why did you pay the 299 service fee (doc) when it is completely optional in your state?

    http://blog.truecar.com/2011/07/26/which-additional-fees-should-i-pay-at-the-dea- lership-what-is-the-doc-fee/#comment-53152
  • Oh, appreciate the info - was not aware it was optional. Will be sure to consider this next time.
  • pegasus17pegasus17 Posts: 536
    Still a decent deal overall! Enjoy your car...
  • gee22gee22 Posts: 82
    Optional, like you can decline to pay it after you negotiated the deal? I don't think so.
    I know there are different state laws governing doc fees, but your sales order that the sales manager signed probably included the the fee in writing. If your state allowed you to negotiate the doc fee away, the sales manager may not have signed off on the purchase price of the car. He was okay with the price you negotiated with the salesman knowing you are also paying another $299 so I think you did just fine.
  • pegasus17pegasus17 Posts: 536
    edited January 2013
    There is a difference between knowing the fee is optional BEFORE you negotiate the final deal and just assuming it is something you have to pay. Dealers are not stupid; they will take advantage of ignorance.

    Here in Ohio, the state sets a MAXIMUM doc fee of $250. Most dealerships pre-print that $250 doc fee on the paperwork and say that the state mandates it, which is BS. Very few consumers take the time to research the doc fee issue (except brian125, et al) before making a final deal.

    It sux to post on this board AFTER you make a deal and then find out you MAY have paid too much. It happens all the time. Read some of my past posts if you don't agree. In the previous guy's case (wiphillyfan1), he still got a decent deal so he should not fret about it and just enjoy his new ride...
  • gee22gee22 Posts: 82
    But you are stating that he definitely overpaid by $299. How can you come up with that conclusion. You have him thinking that once he negotiated his deal, he could have opted out of paying the $299. Yes, he could have negotiated a zero doc fee initially but I bet his negotiations for the purchase price would have gone differently. Hey, once I negotiate my deal, I'll be happy to pay another $500 in doc fees if they'll take $600 more off the price of the car. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you saying that once they agreed on the deal, he could have paid $299 less by simply saying he wants opt out of the doc fee. If that's not the case, you didn't express it clearly.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,424
    edited January 2013
    Good points . both you guys. alot of people do not know about these doc fee's .. Are they legit and can you get them removed.. Alot of people think they make a great deal on there vehicle and boom... there is that doc fee charge for 300 to 600 hundred on that bill of sale.. all that good work taken back. if you agree to it... Dealers are getting hip to pricing from the internet . Dealers are not making as much per car. I like gee's point.. if the dealer you are negotiating with knows you wont pay doc fee's/ tell him to reduce the sale of car to adjust for his high doc's.... you then are getting a different number from the dealer most likely not as low .. Thats why i always say target high volume dealerships first before the smaller guys that sell cars. for Every 50 dealerships maybe 10 are good

    Another point you should know every dealerships doc fee's before you start your negotiations.. If dealership wont remove doc's you add that number to the sale of the car... and make your best deal. If you go thru alot of these forums almost everybody is paying dealers doc fee's. Dealers have seem to pull this slimy new profit tactic off. Even thou each state has put a cap on what they could charge .This Does not make it legal..

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,424
    When buying by Phone or Online trying to get your best price. This question has to be asked to the Manager or internet mangr.. Not the salesman

    Will your dealership remove the doc fee's to earn my business.
    If its No... then add his doc fee's to your meet my price i buy now..

    Brian

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • pegasus17pegasus17 Posts: 536
    edited January 2013
    For those whining about my previous posts:

    http://blog.truecar.com/2011/07/26/which-additional-fees-should-i-pay-at-the-dea- - - - lership-what-is-the-doc-fee/#comment-53152

    Knowledge is power; dealers will try to maximize their profit (not a bad thing). Consumers job is to get a fair deal. In many states, doc fees are a dealer add-on item just like pinstriping and undercoating were years ago. Be informed or risk overpaying.

    this horse is dead; soap box withdrawn!
  • West County Honda.

    Got the same impression that Sport inventory was low at the time in the area.

    Good luck!
  • Truecar.com is true rip off dot com! Sure they give you info on what doc fee's are, but their prices given do not include area discounters. They used to show the actual prices paid by the consumer, but due to dealerships and the auto industry in general giving them grief about it, the woosey CEO wrote to a trade publication auto magazine a year ago, telling the dealers they would no longer give out all prices. The result? Prices quoted are often $1,500 higher than what you could get if you were able to see what savvy consumers are actually are paying. Even Consumer Reports is getting dupped, used this now scummy operation (TRUECAR) to help consumers. Use the internet, get as many quotes as possible - even outside your area. Don't let the auto industry extract any more cash out of your wallet so the CEO's can make millions duping you. If every buyer went on this site and disclosed their purchases - the people would finally have the power to save thousands. Good luck with your Honda Purchase and never ever use Fake (TRUECAR) - my opinion of course and thank god for 1st amendment rights!
  • pegasus17pegasus17 Posts: 536
    I agree that truecar was too good to be long-lasting. Now it sux.
    Check this web site out:
    http://www.realcartips.com/
    I have just started looking at it weekly. The guy recommends carwoo as a good buying tool. Have not tried that yet as i am too early in my buy/lease process.
    Not an endorsement; just info
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,424
    edited January 2013
    On feb, 17,2012
    Massachusetts Consumer affairs did a survey with over 200 dealerships asking them if they charged doc fee's, the amount and what they are for..
    Here is the conclusion. Many of the dealerships reason for the fee's were questionable and literally made up " Claimed the Consumer Affairs Bureau."

    Reasons ranged from a 9/11 security fee to storing documents for 8 yrs to downtown crossing to paying Insurance agents.
    Bottom line: Doc fee's are not a required charge on the bill of sale . Its just dealership Profit.. That were all paying and not fighting ..

    What a bunch of B.S.
    I agree alot with the above poster. By gathering as much info and forums like this is the best way to find or get your best car price.
    True car holds no value to me, Costco programs Etc..
    Here is the bottom line on car buying and my Ist Amend rights of Observation.
    AS long as there are misinformed and stupid people and there car buying ways . Dealerships will always benefit and find new ways to profit off us.

    Perfect Example DOC FEE'S.

    Brian

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • akireakire Posts: 2
    2013 Accord EX-L V6

    27965 Vehicle
    600 Doc Fee
    1770 FL Tax
    200 Title+Reg
    30535 OTD
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,424
    Dealer sold you vehicle for $320 below invoice. You overpaid on doc fee's. Florida has very high doc fee's.. That raised your sale price to $280 above dealers invoice plus taxes etc..
    Enjoy your new Accord.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • Is this guy real?

    I'll never share my price here with this guy trolling. Goodness gracious.
  • Hi, all. I bought a 2013 Accord Sport 6-spd today and just thought I would share my deal since I found these forums helpful. Here are the numbers:

    Mungenast Honda in St. Louis
    MSRP $24,180
    Sale Price $22,598 (includes trunk cargo tray)
    Doc Fee $199
    APR 2.46%

    I don't think I got bottom dollar but the 6-spd is very hard to find around here so I wemt ahead and pulled the trigger. Good luck all. Thanks.
  • eka1eka1 Posts: 28
    Seriously Brian
    Don't u have anything better to do? Don't bring down people and tell them they overpaid, u got ripped off so on and so forth. Get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • srik1srik1 Posts: 6
    This is a great place. I have got so much useful information.
    I have these 2 quotes (best of the 10 quotes).
    24900 (includes Dest) + 200 doc + 6.9% tax + Title etc (MO dealer)
    25900 (includes Dest) + 200 doc + 4.2% tax + Title etc - (overall 300 expensive than above quote, because of lesser tax for out of state purchase - IL)

    I searched this forum and did not find EX-L I4 No Nav prices in Jan, after the year end deals.
    Is this a good price, or should I wait till the month end ?
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