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2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • nipsternipster Posts: 2
    edited February 2013
    I meant dealer processing fee & 4 cylinders but I think everyone got that so not sure what the fuss is about or how it adds value to this conversation thread.

    Anyways, IMO, what folks will find valuable is a discussion around quality of the deal. Was it good/fair/bad compared to what others have gotten? It's not going to have an impact on mine as it's already done but will be extremely helpful to those that are currently in the market

    Lastly, regarding average doc fee in VA, I was charged $499, and that was the ONLY # that was hard-printed (rest were hand written). And as the article points out, even if I had managed to negotiate it down, dealer would've reduced the overall price but left the doc fee # as $499 so as not to open themselves up to a class-action lawsuit. So I suppose it just depends on the dealership as to what they 'list' as their doc fee.
  • Obviously you will first test drive the car at a local dealership. I tried the CRV, Accord, Camry and new Rav-4. Once I decided to go with Accord CVT Sport, I emailed bunch of dealers in NJ, PA, and MD. Used Carwoo too. From around 20-30 dealers, short listed 5-6 dealers who were ready to work on the price via email/phone.
    Finally bought the Accord CVT Sport last month from MD for almost $1800 below invoice (including the procecssing fee + dest). Obviously you will get the best price once you reach the final dealership and can negotiate it further down.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    edited February 2013
    Many dealerships have gave me there bottom line price.. How i know that is dealing with the high volume dealerships then the smaller dealerships.

    last month pricing on Accords in my area using my method let me know what pricing was on the Accord. This month i will try to make my best deal . i have bottom line numbers from many dealers . I will make my best deal at months end........... Poster, Darrin8.... from S.C beat me out on the vehicle i was going to buy from a Dealer in my area so i lost my leverage last month on what i know was a great deal.

    Mr honda your are dead wrong on my buying system.
    I'm not dealing with salesman on that last day on the phone.

    Buying any vehicle the last day of the month is the only way to buy.
    thru out the month you do your research. You close your deal last day of the month. Doing research also means taking a trip to the dealership for your test drive and any other questions you have about that vehicle. maybe you ask about a trade in price.

    So the little work i did last month Online and talking with several dealerships Managers will help me decide what dealerships closest to my home i want to purchase this Accord from. I could travel hours away to save $ 250 but why bother its not worth the time and effort. Sound pretty stress free to me.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,786
    edited February 2013
    Clearly a lot of good thought and work went into the Carwoo site and software. Oh, and by the way it's free for buyers. I suppose the dealer who ends up selling you a car pays a small fee, but I don't know about that.

    Anyway, Carwoo lets you interact and post notes for dealers and salespeople on the Carwoo site, but they don't have your email address and phone until you want them to have those things. I don't have any fear of talking with sales people and giving them my contact info to start with, and so that's not a big deal to me. But for others it might make the Carwoo buying and comparing experience something to consider. What it does allow you to do regardless is compare a few legit offers side by by before you buy. If most of the details are worked out before you get to the dealer, it makes it more pleasant imho when you get there and meet your person. Then you most likely can have a pleasant experience getting your car.
  • Brian, what is your target car and the best offer so far? Dealer name not required.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    Mike you will hold this price record sale until honda puts out cash incentives on the Accords.
    No dealer in the New york ,New jersey, Conn. and Boston. area will come close to that great price.
    The best deal outside of yours that i know of was at Weymouth honda and that was $ 983. below invoice with doc fee's of 239. for a grand total of 744 below invoice.

    Maybe i should rethink my old system and have you buy me a EXL model.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • Hearing any whispers of Honda cash incentives yet? In February?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,930
    edited February 2013
    Carwoo? Sounds like Daewoo and you know what happened to them! :D

    I've seen, literally dozens and dozens of these come and go over the years but, who knows?

    As far as color, when a shopper is totally inflexable on the color it can cost them dearly. If, for example a store knows that they have the "only" red Accord EXL in their district and a shopper who HAS to have that color, they know they can hold out for more money. They will "lock" the car so it can't be traded to another store.

    If they don't have that color and they see another store does, they will quickly try to trade for it hoping the shopper hasn't shopped the other store.

    In the case of Basque Red, that isn't a very popular color at all and you just might find yourself in that position. It isn't a "bad" color by any means, it just doesn't sell very well.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,930
    There are NEVER any "whispers"! The dealers aren't told until the last second!
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    edited February 2013
    I was trying to buy the v-6 touring but i have changed my mind to EXL, V-6.
    My youngest daughter is finishing up her masters this year and i want to surprise her at the end of this year for her great effort and all the long hours she put into her studies. Her 07 Accord has been trouble free but it getting up there in miles.
    Pricing in my area is between 400 and 700 below invoice price plus doc fee's. Jan 31st pricing guide. Boston and M.D. few hundred cheaper.

    NJ ...doc's 299 to 399
    NY....doc's....... 75

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,930
    Jipster, we now have a " Nipster". Very creative huh?

    We used to get bombarded with emails from "smart" shoppers at the end of the month. They all said the same thing and they were, for the most part, worthless.

    First of the month, middle of the month, end of the month, seriously, it really doesn't matter. A "ready to buy today" shopper face to face is always taken seriously, treated well and the customer who gets the best deal.

    Don't hide your trade and spring it after the deal is done. It is worth what it's worth.

    This really doesn't ahve to be difficult. I always tried to make it fun.
  • My gut feeling is that there is an overall shortage of Accords. Don't know if it is production or artificial shortage. Watching inventories in 5 states is telling me it is not demand.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    edited February 2013
    Jimmy very good on that gut feeling..
    Thats what my prevovis post about car sales with other companies and honda were on. The Accords sales are not were they expected. These companies and cars like Sonata, Camry, and Nissan Altima are outselling the Accord. With kia right up there.. Ford, and Nissan already have up to 2500 cash back. VW and all these car companies are putting out cash incentives. If honda wants to sell more vehicles. Cash incentives will be right around the corner. Honda will play there pricing game the 1st quarter then make adjustments.. hopefully for buyers its sooner.
    For such a hot car i really dont see many on the roads yet. i see alot of altima's thou. The Accord is the best car out of the above mentioned group with best resale. Whats the difference on a 5 yr Accord apposed to a 5 yr passat or altima. Is that a big enought difference in price to base your decision on. Maybe if you beat your cars up and have to trade it back to the dealer the Accord is the clear choice.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • brian125,
    I am just happy that I got a good deal on a New Gen Accord . I got the 7yr/80K extended warranty from Hyannis Honda and now I am set for 7 yrs :D
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    edited February 2013
    You did a great job. No matter how you buy a car today you use the system that works for you. I could never visit 8 dealers in one day and get my answers on where the bottom line numbers are at on pricing / Its to time consuming and the majority of sales people in these dealerships are trained to hold you there and play games til there manager decides on pricing and how much he can make on you. This is a fact. just read thru these boards.
    If there are 5 thousand educated smart shoppers getting a good to great price here at edmunds imagine how many people???? tens of thousands walking into dealerships across this counrty with out a clue on how to buy and the many tricks that come with the art of negotiating and buying. Gotta love America.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    Dealers in this area use Nada pricing. Thats what most dealers will quote you with. i Have heard of dealerships giving a better price on a trade in but not on the sale of the new vehicle. Its very rare you can get both. If your trading in a vehicle check out pricing from Nada to be sure of your cars price. there is a small fee to join. NADA pricing is alot lower on car value's than KBB and Edmunds pricing.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • When I was picking up the Accord in Maryland with my family, I saw 2 Girls walk in looking for a CRV. The Salesman offered them a price of $1000 less than MSRP and they were ready to sign the deal. They had no information with them regarding holdbacks, invoice price etc.

    I felt so bad that I asked my wife to help them and show them the invoice price on the Iphone atleast. They were able to negotiate a better deal after that even though the salesman was so freakin mad at us.

    The point is the Dealer may take a loss on the deal he made on my car, but you are absolutely right that they get thousands of customers with out a clue.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,577
    The most accurate way I have seen to value
    your trade-in is here:

    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ee9c851/43549
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    Your right
    i dont mean to say this in a bad way
    Stupid ,Uneducated or dont care consumers who buy cars fuel this market and help these dealerships make big profits.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • albert72albert72 Posts: 141
    FYI - For the new Accord, Honda's plan was to ramp up manufacturing to full capacity in I believe 60 days. In the past, it took them much longer as the frequency of QC checks on a new production model are much more frequent. This info came from an article in AutoNews.

    You are likely going to see more deals on cars late March / April as gas prices continue to rise and the economy starts to stall. WalMart had their worst Feb start since '07 partially because of the 2% increase in payroll / social sec tax which alone took $19B out of the economy.
  • Besides the NADA book, car sales managers also use a smaller BLACK book for when miles way too high or in wretched condition for their fine lot and will be off-loaded to a wholesaler for his lot or an auction.
  • Brian, with all the work you must have done, no doubt you have gotten the best email prices, but you're kidding yourself if you think that's their bottom line price. That is purely your opinion with nothing to back that up. While I have no evidence to validate my opinion, I do have common sense on my side. It would be appreciated if you shared your email prices. It would help out emailers as well as those visiting dealerships. Thanks
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    edited February 2013
    It wasn't as much work as you think just a system. i posted the prices above. some were email prices. My best prices came from direct negotiations one on one with the sales manager/ Internet mgr. There are dealerships who will give you there bottom line selling price. take it or leave it. I guess i'm in the minority on that one.. Where do you live and what dealers are you looking at.

    The last poster was dead on about the economy/gas. Honda will have to ramp up or they stand to lose out. The honda civic stands to do very well this yr. The Corolla has a 2014 redesign along with the Sonata, Genesis and Elantra. Hyundia will not go away they are doing well. Nissan also has the new Sentra out. Alot of competition. Gas prices drive people to buy smaller more fuel efficient cars. Big truck sales are hurting. Average joe is not going to buy one..

    With the exception of a dealer looking to move one of his cars off his lot at the end of the month a little cheaper that price i posted is best prices right now.

    Darrin8... bought from Autosport in N.J. last month. The dealer moved the touring model off his lot for 1000 below invoice and reduced his doc fee's by 100 dollars to take that sale.. The deal was done by phone with a credit card deposit. I called that same dealership at 6pm and that black touring was the last one he had. This is how you make your best deal.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,786
    I'm starting to see more of them.

    Of course there are still more 2013 Altimas, bc that model came out months before the new Accord.

    Honda is doing a great incentive deal this month: 1.9 for 60 months.

    For those who say the Accord costs a little more than the competition, the answer is yes: you can expect to pay a little more to get the best.

    With a good discount, however, the Accord still may offer the best bang for the buck in a highly competitive midsize market.
  • I didnt find anything on Accord production related to our discussion in AutoNews...
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,930
    No, Brian...dealers will give you what your car is actually worth. Sure, they will look at NADA and maybe KBB but they won't pay you more than they can buy a similar car for at the local auction.

    A lot of cars are "back of book". they simply aren't worth what the books say and some cars will bring more than book if it's a high demand used car that the store knows will sell quickly.

    After the last penny has been wrung out of the new car deal don't expect a store to pay more for the trade than it's worth.

    And, often it's an undesirable car the store really doesn't want.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,930
    edited February 2013
    Did you really do that?

    Unbelievable!
  • drezheredrezhere Posts: 12
    edited February 2013
    Hey everyone, I am in the market to buy a 2013 Accord Coupe. I am wondering if anyone has purchased one recently and what your OTD price was (location would be great too)? I am leaning toward the EX 4Cyl Auto, because I am not a big fan of leather. The interesting thing is that I see very few of those on the lot here in VA, but a see a lot of the EX-L models in 4Cyl or V6. What is the inventory like in the locations around you for the Accord Coupes? Any special offers on them? Thanks!
    :) BTW: Thanks for alll the great advice I have read on how to improve the chance of getting a great deal on a new car. :)
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    This may sound funny and dont get the wrong ideal. i always have something you write that i disagree with.
    You are correct on this one.

    If you have a well maintained 4,5 or 6 year old car you have to sell it privately to get the most money back. What dealer wants a 5 or 6 yr car?????????????? especially American. If your trade in was in good shape and well maintained why would you trade to the dealer??? Now if you tell me you dont like to sell privately then you take what you get from the dealer and stop complaining about price. A 5/6 yr old car probably needs tires ,tuneup, front end work, brakes , maybe rotors and timming belt down the line.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,179
    edited February 2013
    Your best bet on a good deal might be in M.D Check dealers websites for inventory before calling.

    Search all high volume dealerships in and around your area. this will help you get a better price than from your local V.A dealers with there high doc fee's.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

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