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2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    edited February 2013
    ffelt so bad that I asked my wife to help them and show them the invoice price on the Iphone atleast. They were able to negotiate a better deal after that even though the salesman was so freakin mad at me.

    You're lucky that salesman didn't reach across his desk and strangle both of you. ;)
    You probably cost him a couple hundred bucks in commission.

    I bet the two girls were cute. :blush:

    A customer, without a clue, comes into a dealership to buy a car...it's their fault. You can't realistically expect a dealership to give awAy money, which is what they'd be doing.
  • Do you mind share the purchase price details? Thanks a lot.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    edited February 2013
    this country is still in economic despair - in case you haven't noticed - and divorce, foreclosure, credit card issues, and a host of other problems negatively affect the majority of this country's personal credit scores

    I thought I was pretty well versed in the logic behind credit score calculations. I am still trying to figure out how divorce affects it. I see it mentioned a few times, by different people. But, how is divorce affecting the credit rating?

    Credit rating is based on the past record of paying bills on time, income to debt ratio and a few other finance related categories. There is no rating for being single, married, divorced, or otherwise.

    Do people stop paying their financial obligations when they go through divorce? That I can see hapenning, where one or both parties, out of spite, stop paying back the loans. But, divorce, in of itself should not affect one's credit score.

    When someone gets married, their credit scores do not magically get higher just because they got married. Why should they magically drop when someone is divorced. Unless, of course, they are being spiteful and fail to complete their financial obligations.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    blueiedgod can you please explain why so I can contact the dealer and let them know that I am unhappy.

    First of all. Are you unhappy? Or are you unhappy because some annonymouse person on the internet told you that you are unhappy?

    If you are perfectly happy paying $40,020 for an Accord EX (hopefully it is a V6 at that price), then you should not contact them.

    If you can't figure out where $40,020 came from, and don't care to know, then you don't need to contact them either.

    I am not going to tell you that you are unhappy, if you are perfectly happy.
  • You answered your question in your last paragraph. When they decided to get a divorce, my cousin's wife charge $30K on their joint AMEX card, knowing her prominent attorney husband would pay the bills.
    The lease for the car my wife drive's is in my name. Do you think she would start making the payments if she split.
    Fortunately, I went through an amicable divorce in my first marriage but I have heard horror stories. Be careful with joint credit.
    And don't forget that alimony and child support can cause financial hardship.
    Please stick with auto purchase comments in this forum.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    You answered your question in your last paragraph. When they decided to get a divorce, my cousin's wife charge $30K on their joint AMEX card, knowing her prominent attorney husband would pay the bills.
    The lease for the car my wife drive's is in my name. Do you think she would start making the payments if she split.
    Fortunately, I went through an amicable divorce in my first marriage but I have heard horror stories. Be careful with joint credit.
    And don't forget that alimony and child support can cause financial hardship.
    Please stick with auto purchase comments in this forum.


    That was my question. How is marital status relevant to the Credit history and the subsequent auto purchase. Thank you for clarifying it, and confirming what I had originally thought. It is completely IRRELEVANT.
  • i was trying to get price quotes on the Accord LX CVT, and i tried via cars.com, edmunds.com, carwoo.com, but i haven't received any decent price quote. They are sneding me their automated "e-price" quote that is around 20100+790 dest which is pretty bad, any suggestions (like any other websites or something), thanks.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    edited February 2013
    i was trying to get price quotes on the Accord LX CVT, and i tried via cars.com, edmunds.com, carwoo.com, but i haven't received any decent price quote. They are sneding me their automated "e-price" quote that is around 20100+790 dest which is pretty bad, any suggestions (like any other websites or something), thanks.

    Have you tried www.carsdirect.com or American Express car buying service?

    Perhaps it is the going price. What are you looking to pay?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,915
    Once again, Brian I can tell you really don't know the business like you think you do.

    You wrote.." What dealer wants a 5 or 6 yr (old) car??????????????"

    Actually those are the ones in the greatest demand. A nice 5 year old car that is a popular model are in very high demand. We would take those cars, detail them to perfection, run them through a 105 point inspection and do whatever reconditioning was necessary. We couldn't get enough of them. If they did happen to need any of those items you mentioned, we would do the work and show the buyers what we did.

    We would even sell nice ten year old and older Hondas and Toyotas.

    We would NOT keep Audis, Land Rovers, Volvos or Volkswagens. These we would take to the auctions or wholesale them. Years of experience caused these decisions to be made. We didn't need the headaches or unhappy customers. On rare instances we would perhaps make an exception but we never kept a Land Rover or an Audi.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,173
    Your email quotes will only get you so far with pricing. To secure your best deal You need to negotiate One on One with either internet manager or sales manager by phone letting them know you will buy immediately with a credit card deposit the last days of this month.
    Your other option is on feb,28th go visit several dealers and make your best deal.
    You will never find a good price the way you are going about your business.
    you have no leverage the way your trying to buy this accord.
    read my prior post and do what i'm saying and you will secure your best deal in your area.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,173
    edited February 2013
    Well thats great news your telling me. Most be something new. I guess the dealership you worked at was one of the very few who gave that trade in car a good value. Like i posted.. Over the many years i have inquired about a trade in from time to time All my cars are garaged kept nothing needed to be replaced or fixed. dealers never offered me fair market value. Why is that?? My cars are in demand.

    My neighbor down the block tried to trade in his 3, 1/2 yr lexus. The dealership felt mabey this old guy is stupid enough and told him the best he could do was about 8 thousand less than book. Just not a demand car i guess.

    I'm assuming i really dont know this car business like you.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,786
    edited February 2013
    That's more than $2300 off the list price. Sounds pretty good to me.

    Invoice on an LX CVT is about $21300+. You are getting a below invoice price on an all-new car that's winning awards and comparison tests. Go for it. Enjoy!+++
  • jimmytulsajimmytulsa Posts: 48
    edited February 2013
    The dealer is out there to rip you off on the trade-in. Keep haggling and he may give you addl $500.
  • Not yet, but will try. I know Anderson offered me the $19, 579 plus $790 destination. They are kind of far from me. I am in PA. Will contact managers as Brian suggested. My target OTD is $21.5 but if I get it for an extra $300 I would consider. We will see.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,173
    Dealers use NADA pricing or Galves prices.All low ball figures. Every now and then a dealer will advertise a trade at kbb price. If your not selling your car privately at 4/5/6 yrs dont expect top dollar. Hopefully you may get a fair price from the dealership.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,915
    Brian, I hate repeating myself but dealers pay what they think the trades are worth and rarely stick to "book" prices.

    Then, unlike private sellers, they have to consider the costs of reconditioning the trades, doing detail and minor dent rempval and touch ups if necessary.

    If you don't like what you are offered, SELL IT YOURSELF! You might get lucky or you might get stuck dealing with flakes, joyriders, people who never show up etc. A lot of risks involved.

    Also, in many states there is a sales tax credit on the value of trade in's. This can be substancial if the trade is worth a lot.
  • noselling1noselling1 Posts: 2
    edited February 2013
    Hi all,
    Just wanted to share a quote I got from College Park Honda. I dare anyone to beat it!
    2013 Accord LX CVT.
    Included
    199 doc,

    500 market adj. (they must been selling Ferrari before)

    995 mud guards, wheel locks.

    24964, BEFORE TTL!

    I could barely hold myself from laughing.
  • Try Anderson Honda. They are the only ones to give u an upfront price without the run around.
  • LX msrp 23270 sell 20530
    sport msrp 24980 sell 22083
    ex msrp 26195 sell 22891

    Only 3 of 8 dealers responded to the carwoo request
    Prices are pre-tax and dmv fees but do include the maximum doc fee for my state
  • Just got an offer of $24,900 for the car. I pay TTL of 3.25% myself.
  • Where are you located? What dealerships are giving u these prices? Thanks
  • pegasus17pegasus17 Posts: 536
    edited February 2013
    this is an update to my earlier post. Sorry for leaving out a couple details:

    LX msrp 23270 sell 20530
    sport msrp 24980 sell 22083
    ex msrp 26195 sell 22891

    Sadly, only 3 of 8 dealers responded to the carwoo request
    Prices are pre-tax and dmv fees but do include the maximum doc fee for my state (Ohio)

    Surprised at the poor response in SW Ohio. We have about as many Honda dealerships as fat chix in this area. Guess they still feel in control of the Accord supply/demand situation, for now...
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,786
    ?

    Those prices look good to me. What do you mean about poor response....?
  • When going thru the initial carwoo process, they force you to select a minimum # of dealers for the bidding process. Initially, I selected 5 dealerships that i was familiar with in my area. I excluded 2 dealers that i knew were scumbags based on prior experience in 2010. The carwoo robot required me to select an additional 3 dealers to bring the total number up to 8. Of the 8 selected, only 3 responded. While i agree that the prices i posted are excellent (my view), it would have been better to get additional bids so i would have more than one dealer to choose from. The process evolved over 2 weeks with very easy communication back-and-forth via the carwoo web site. I really liked that part. This was a beta project for me as i wanted to see how/if the process works and it does. It is free to try for one vehicle (unless you have multiple e-mail accounts), so why not...
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,786
    edited February 2013
    I think many dealers who are outside of someone's immediate area don't bother to respond to these price quote requests from sites like Carwoo. I got about the same response level you did, but like you still got a good price.

    Basically through Carwoo and other things like it customers are getting low prices on a hot product. Many dealers probably figure they can sell a 2013 Accord for a higher price than it would take to get a sale thru Carwoo. Nothing wrong with that.

    When a Honda dealer decides to practically "give away" a car at below invoice, I think they are hoping to make it back and make some money on the trade, the extended warranty, and the accessories.

    But some Honda dealers don't want to give away an all-new best-in-class award-winning car. They want to make some money on it. Fair enough!

    But there are enough Accords around that those of us who are looking for a good price can find one. You don't need 8 good quotes. All you need is one good quote.
  • I will say the opposite. I got my best quotes so far from dealers far away via Edmunds. The lowest is Anderson and then a dealer in PA that isn't close to me. My local dealer claims like every other dealer that they will match my lowest offer but I am still waiting for the carwoo qquotes to come in. We will see.
  • caryccaryc Posts: 1
    to isellhondas, you are dishonest, I bought a 2013 honda accord v6 in november for 27999, i posted all this information on this forum but under forum name carcam123, forgot my password. Just look me up anyone in this forum from those dates. I know my price was good for the time, but better can be had now. Weymouth honda in mass. will give you internet pricing if you simply log in. I did use this official quote to e mail several dealerships in my pennsylvania area. None of them in my area wanted anything to do with me, Ray Price honda in the poconos was able to give me this price. the 27999 price was beforee ttl. but included destination fee. The list on this car was 31000. isellhondas guy is full of you know what. I was completely ready to drive to boston to get my car. Ray price was direct and forthcoming and truthful, so i only had to drive 100 miles.. to anyone buying honda. Just get official quote from weymouth just by logging in at there website. You will get excellent price right off bat. either buy from them, or use it to compare/ shop at nearer dealership. Brian125 is completely and positively correct, I dont know who he is, and i have never used forums before, but his advice is excellent. If you look back in this forum, you will see my post as carcam123. from my experience, below invoice is achievable. my price was almost 2800 below list. For all those buying new honda, go to Weymouth honda website, register, and you will have actual price in your hand. Use it. It will infuriate your local honda dealer, but it is a price that brian123 will be proud of. It is possible to go lower. Read all posts in this forum and you will learn alot. isellhondas is trying to say that 1000 below invoice is impossible. That is not true. I did not quite get below invoice in november, but I did get fantastic price. Read everything in this forum for last 5 months. Use this information and all advice brian123 is giving. I have no idea who he is, but he is correct. Do not deal in person with any dealership. Find the internet manager, use Weymouth quote as actually available and move on from there. Just register in their website and you will see excellent price on any honda model, Hell just buy it from them. isellhondas go shove it
  • jimmytulsajimmytulsa Posts: 48
    edited February 2013
    $24,900 so far. I pay TTL
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,786
    edited February 2013
    Hey folks, no need to be rude to anyone.

    Isell has a valuable perspective. Many here appreciate his point of view and insights, as well as his sense of humor and perspective.

    Yes, of course, he tilts toward the salesperson's side of things, because that was his job for many years—selling Hondas.

    But he points out many times, and accurately, that salespeople are people who need to make a living, just like we do, and who have feelings, just like we do.

    Some salespeople are unethical. Some customers are unethical. So there's bad on both sides. There's also good on both sides.

    Let's try here in our discussions to bring out the good.

    Yes, we want low prices, and that's the point of this thread. But it's compatible with being friendly and ethical to your salesperson and letting them make at least a small (or even medium) profit somewhere in the deal....

    Just my 2 cents.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,915
    " None of them in my area wanted anything to do with me"

    Gee, I wonder why?

    I also am wondering why I would respond to a name caller with third grade writing skills?
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