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2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • huskerfan5huskerfan5 Posts: 163
    Mike, so what you are saying is that March 31 is the best day to buy a car in the Northeast because prices should go up in April. Well, if that is the case, then everyone would buy their car on March 31 to avoid the April price increase and by now I think we would have read somewhere that Mar 31 is the day to buy a car. The fact is, one can only guess what pricing will be. Since the Accord was redesigned for 2013, prices were artificially high at introduction and it was expected they would come down over time so that is a plus in terms of potential lower pricing. However, there are lots of potential factors that will impact pricing. Stock market performance, trend in new unemployment claims, consumer confidence, disruptions in parts supplies, and especially Honda's response to new promotions from it's rivals. Yes, the weather too can impact pricing, but did you think what would happen if we had a rainy April? People would be less apt to go out and test drive a car and that would result in lower demand.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,238
    kyfdx....I'll ask her. She's not a lease kind of person, but I'll see what she says.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,733
    I was just kidding. A G37X is a lot of car for the lease dollar, but not such a great value proposition if you are buying it.

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    Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • Instead of same "how to" repeated over over over its better to see prices paid and a good looking format where its easy to see what people mean.

    Just posted in "Real-World Trade-In Values" forum and was recommended to use forum template! No skin off of my back.

    No sweat. Used the template. Cool. Fast reply and it makes sense. Easy to understand.

    Great idea to have something like this in this and the Accord leasing forum.
  • This is going to be my third accord in a row. I live in the the MA area and was really looking into an SUV but the mileage sucks on most of them and the compact ones were either uncomfortable or the back seat was small. My wife told me to get what I wanted and some how I went back to the accord for the 3rd consecutive time. Is there a problem with that? Did I just settle? Anyways here is what I paid...

    25,500 including destination + TTL. Comes with a couple of oil changes and 7 year 100,00 power train. They gave me 7500 for more trade which was a 2007 accord EX 5 speed 98K involved in an accident with some body damage that they missed on the front bumper. Pick it up today...black on black.
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,766
    Great price on a great car! Unless you need awd, an Accord is better in a lot of ways than pretty much any SUV imho....
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,238
    edited April 2013
    Not a bad idea on the template. Problem there, people who lease usually have been leasing for a good long while and just turn in their expired lease car for another one.

    On a purchase, as we've seen, a trade-in affects the price paid, dealer add-ons, fees, document prep charges, geographic locale, even credit scores can affect the price.

    So, to see that someone paid $XXXX under invoice, or $XXXXX for the car has to include some caveats....what they received for their trade, fees, geographic locale, etc.

    Still, a template would help.

    I'll throw the first volley..

    -Year, Make, Model
    -Options
    -Dealer city/state
    -MSRP (incl destination)
    -Invoice (incl destination)
    -Purchase Price
    -Downpayment
    -Trade allowance (year, make model, mileage, options, condition of the trade)
    -TTL
    -Dealer fees (what and how much)
    -Doc fees


    There's a start. Add, subtract, change whatever you want. It won't hurt my feelings.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,238
    kyfdx...thanks for the info on leasing the G. My sister likes to "purchase".

    Anyway, she's now onto Buick Regal. Apparently she likes how they look.

    I'm sure they are nice cars. As I told her, I can't help her unless she settles on what car she wants...... :confuse: :sick:
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    "The gearbox also offers some resistance if you try to put it in 1st at speeds higher than 20 mph, which I used to do on approach to something like a stop sign (clutch down, of course). This is probably a safety feature/quirk, but interesting nevertheless. "

    The resistance you feel is the pain that you are causing the transmission's synchros. You should Never put it into first gear at more than 10 mph if you just push the clutch and move the stick into first, as you are relying on the syncro to do the work. If you double-clutched it properly, then maybe, but it is best to just not until you are below 10 mph.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,697
    Good advice!

    Just because you CAN shift into first at 20 MPH doesn't mean you SHOULD.

    Doing this is VERY hard on the synchros!

    Saw a black Sport today...WOW, what a great looking car!!
  • leosikleosik Posts: 11
    Do not mind me asking which dealership did you get it from.
  • ziggy25aziggy25a Posts: 24
    edited April 2013
    This is a good example of how price alone can be misleading. They were able to give you such a good price by giving you less than the trade in was worth. Using Kelly Blue book, your trade in, using the worst condition, fair, is 7100 while the second to worst condition, good, is 8500. For excellent, 9250. If they missed the front bumper damage, yet gave you 7500, then they gave you several hundred to a thousand less than the car was worth. Easy then to sell you the one for 25,500
  • I tried selling the car outright but I was getting offered 6500-7. I went to carmax and they offered me 7. The dealer gave me 7500 which I thought was fair. The brakes were going and I would say a good 2-3K would have to be put into the car to get it into very good condition. The car fax showed that it was involved in an accident and the market for 5 speed manual just isnt there. Maybe they did see the bumper, I have no idea. KBB is also very inflated. I would have loved to get more for the trade but it was simply not there. The 25500 for the accord has been prenegotiated for weeks working through this forum and numerous dealers.
  • audax88audax88 Posts: 3
    I got a similar deal too for a 2013 Honda Accord LX CVT.
    Sale Price(inc dest): $20,830
    Taxes,tags,proc fee: $1150 (VA state)
    Final OTD: 21,980
    Got splash guards, mats,door edge guards and wheel locks too.

    I was particular about the color of the car(black w ivory).
    Had a silver w/ gray for around $400 lesser.

    Is this a good deal?Somehow feel like I paid more.. :(
  • audax88audax88 Posts: 3
    -Year, Make, Model - Honda Accord 2013
    -Options -wheel locks,splash guards, floor mats,edge guards
    -Dealer city/state - Herndon, VA
    -MSRP (incl destination) - $23,270
    -Invoice (incl destination) - $21,386
    -Purchase Price(inc dest) - $20,800
    -Downpayment -$6000
    -Trade allowance (year, make model, mileage, options, condition of the trade) - N/A
    -TTL - $730
    -Dealer fees (what and how much) -proc fee- $394
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,238
    Audax....good deal. Glad you liked the format.
  • miteshonlmiteshonl Posts: 12
    Hi I am going to buy preowned cerified car. Which bank can give me better APR? My credit history is very good (>740) but i never had any loan yet. I know DCU is one of them providing better APR. Any other suggestion?
  • I feel you did well with the extras/options and the sale price of 20800, and keeping the dealer fees under 400.

    Thanks for the easily understood presentation and enjoy the car :)
  • iwannagr8leaseiwannagr8lease Posts: 42
    edited April 2013
    Thanks for the support on the template graphicguy :)

    "Not a bad idea on the template. Problem there, people who lease usually have been leasing for a good long while and just turn in their expired lease car for another one.

    On a purchase, as we've seen, a trade-in affects the price paid, dealer add-ons, fees, document prep charges, geographic locale, even credit scores can affect the price."


    The same are ALL factors for a lease and I want to receive the lowest selling price before I even get into any other leasing numbers. In our case we're learning that we may have up to 1500 allowance in trading in a way under-mileage lease on the new one and we'll be using that in getting the best "selling price" for the new car in the lease figures.

    "So, to see that someone paid $XXXX under invoice, or $XXXXX for the car has to include some caveats....what they received for their trade, fees, geographic locale, etc. "

    Exactly.!!!! Without this information selling prices (or under invoice numbers) are just gobbledeegook. Look what great information we all just received from audax88's post in following your suggested outline: 20800 (doable because we learned there was 6000 cash and no trade).

    What if a 19800 price was posted as a sales price knowing about a 1000 trade credit? Not going to waste aggravating weeks trying to match that price knowing the dealer made money on the "back-end" with the effective price being MSRP or even more.

    Simple and effective. Adding any financing through the dealer and the %charge adds another layer of valuable info (high interest negating lower pricing).

    Without these kind of breakdowns, OTD's and 'how did I do?' (most of the posts in this forum) are just a waste of space.

    Thanks again for the template.
  • nspattnspatt Posts: 16
    What is the extent of damage in dollars that your accident got on to carfax ? I was in a similar situation with my Camry where the damage was over 10K. After fully fixing the car, Carmax offered me 9000.00 and I took it to used car dealers in my area and I could get 10,000-00 from one and 11,000-00 from another without any negotiation. I traded my car to get a new Camry but carmax is the shittiest out there to sell your car.
  • You've had the Accord a day or so already, right?

    Much thanx for a breakdown on the numbers you got from Madison Honda and if you can a scan of the paperwork like suggested in message #29198. Thanx.
  • I shopped around everywhere including multiple dealers of different brands and 7500 is where the car topped out.
  • audax88audax88 Posts: 3
    Thanks!
    This was my very first car purchase. I didn have a lot of idea on how to negotiate and which resources to quote and use.
    The car I got had run for just 2 miles, and was fresh in the inventory, so found it extremely hard to negotiate.
    Also, I got the car on 30th of March. It a common misconception that the end of month will get u better deals. They generally do, BUT only if the dealer has not already met his targets.
    I think a great deal will be an OTD of $21,500 on the Accord LX in VA.
  • mr_numbmr_numb Posts: 7
    Thanks for the advice; it was a bad habit I very quickly got out of with this new car (with my older VW it didn't seem to be a problem though).

    Any other useful manual tips?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,697
    Well, don't ride the clutch and if you avoid constant downshifting your clutch and transmission will last the life of the car.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,685
    edited April 2013
    Seems like Accord sales died down this month in here. waiting to see the 1st quarter sales reports for honda on Accord, and CRV. For Jan 2013 Accord sales were up 13 k from last year. I hope they take the top spot away from Camry this year in sales.. Maybe they should sell more Accords to the rental companies..

    My Nissan dealership friend claims they are kicking honda's butt in sales this years. i do see alot of Altima's on the road...

    i still have not seen many Accords on the roads here in NYC.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • huskerfan5huskerfan5 Posts: 163
    March was a great month for the Accord. The Jan sales that I saw appear to be somewhat different from yours. I noted an increase of 10K, but more important, March sales were up over 50% from Jan while the Camry's were up by less than 20%. For the month, Camry only outsold the Accord by 1K.
    Toyota sold 5K less Camry's in Mar-13 vs Mar-12 while Honda was up by 10K.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 2,685
    the jan 2013 numbers were more like 12.3 k up.... if i remember correctly. the surprise here is that Camry is still holding on if your numbers are legit.

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    Don't slip the bejesus out of the clutch like a lot of people do.
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