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2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,077
    here is the breakdown from........... the fast lane car.com
    Dont know how true these numbers are.

    Altima................37,763 for march
    Camry...............37,663........mar
    Accord...............36,504........mar
    fusion................30,284........mar

    looks like a nice little race here

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • fxguyfxguy Posts: 132
    Those numbers are true. For the year, Accord is only 12K units behind Camry. If i was a betting man, i would say the Accord will be the best selling car this year...
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,077
    agreed

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,880
    Toyota sells HUGE amounts of cars to the rental companies and Honda doens't do this.

    Eighteen months later, all of those Toyotas are dumped en masse at the auctions. This hurts resale values.
  • huskerfan5huskerfan5 Posts: 163
    Brian,
    Notice that I said our numbers somewhat disagreed. I didn't say you were wrong. I don't know whether my source www.goodcarbadcar.net is accurate or yours is closer, but I don't appreciate your implication that my numbers weren't legit.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,077
    edited April 2013
    Huskerfan
    I thought my numbers were wrong. Some web sites you can never tell what numbers are more legit than others.

    hope your feeling the love

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,785
    For the reason isell says, Toyota's huge sales to rental fleets, the Accord—even though it's a much better car—isn't that likely to pass the Camry this year in sales.

    Honda's Marysville, OH, factory, even flat out (which is how it's running now), has the capacity to make about 400,000 Accords for the US. That would be a great sales number, and is probably good for 2nd in sales. But Toyota has the capacity to make 500,000 Camrys. They probably can't sell that many, even if they give them away, but by giving them away they can probably get to 450,000 to stay number 1.

    We Honda owners can take comfort that our car really is waaaay better than a Camry. I just had a 2013 Camry rental on a recent trip, and I can tell you I wouldn't want to own that car.
  • brian125brian125 New york / S.C. myrtle beachPosts: 3,077
    edited April 2013
    I thought Honda had another facility that was almost up and running for this year.
    I think the newest plant is in Indiana dont think there making Accords there

    2013 Genesis 5.0 R-spec, 2013 Accord EXL V-6, 2012 BMW x-5, 2012 ML350

  • uncuncuncunc Posts: 1
    Hey folks, I’m late with the posting of my purchase, which occurred last Saturday. I read the forums here often, but I just now signed up for an account. Thanks for all the input from everyone. I purchased a 2013 EX-L w/Navi from Jim Coleman in Clarksville, MD for 28,986 OTD. 26,880 agreed priced, plus 200 processing fee, and TTL (Md 6 percent state tax). Also got wheel locks, and mud guards thrown in(with mats). No trade or anything else were involved. Modern Steel color with 3 miles before test driving. One free oil change included.

    Wasn’t planning on getting the car that weekend at all, just played around and submitted a Carwoo request on Saturday March 30th around 11:30 that morning. Wanted to see the types of prices via that format on the last day the month (Easter was Sunday). Only got 3 responses that day, but got one immediately from Michelle the internet manager from Coleman (it was for 27,433 including Freight). I countered 26,780, she replied back with 27,233. By this time I got two other offers from MD dealerships that were high. In the meantime I called about 8 more dealers in Maryland who quoted prices that weren’t significant as well. So I called Michelle from Coleman, she asked me to come down. I told her I probably would, but that we weren’t done with negotiating. She was fine with that.

    I didn’t get there until about 7:15 , Michelle had left for the day (dealership closed at 9). They assigned me salesperson name Muhammad. Basically told him I will test drive the car, and either we can agree or disagree on a price, but it was going to be a quick process. Of course he tried to act like he didn’t know what the internet manager offered and etc., though he brought the correct car with vin, without a description from me. After testing driving he tried to add the wheel locks and mud guards to the internet manager’s price, I refused. Then he said her offer 27,233 was their best and final price with the accessories. I told him if we agree at 26,880 including freight, and OTD of under 29,000, I will buy right then, if not I’m leaving. He came back and we agreed.

    So basically, no snazzy negotiating or anything, I luckily just found a dealership that needed to move that car and volume I guess. I got there late (not by design, but I wasn’t in a hurry to get there), was a race against time, being it was end of the month. Dealer wasn’t crowded when I got there, so who knows. Price part took all of 10-15 minutes, tops. Spent way more time declining all the extra stuff they tried to upsell. Don’t particularly care for the dealership with how the finance and warranty managers try to talk to you when you decline the extras. But with the EX-L w/Nav invoice being 28,223 including freight, and I got it for 26,880 including freight, 1,343 under invoice with a 200 dollar processing fee is not bad.

    If you have any questions late me know. This is a real post, and if more information is needed I am happy to help.
  • sw3267sw3267 Posts: 3
    edited April 2013
    Thank you so much Kyfdx. Newbie's like me trying to do our homework for the passed few months seeing what others have "Paid and their Buying experineced" to determind our price target seems to have been turned in to just another "general car BS blog".

    I like the Idea one of the other guest had which was have a format.

    Year,Make,Model

    MSRP: Price

    Invoice: Price

    etc:

    etc.

    You get the Idea.
  • sw3267sw3267 Posts: 3
    Yes! Great Idea! A Template. This would be much more helpful to people like myself looking on Edmunds fourms to get an idea of a price target on the car they are planning to purchase. :)
  • happypilot1happypilot1 Posts: 6
    edited April 2013
    Sorry to hear you're having a problem with this. Been round in some customer cars ever since Honda's VCM was introduced, and seems to span all VCM models though not all production units - if you check out model-dedicated forums on the web outside of Edmunds you'll probly learn more about it. We found similar problems a ways back reading HondaPilot.org (now called Piloteers.org as the big company got nasty with the forum owners about Trademark issues)

    In our case it happened in our VCM/FWD drive Pilot after 60k. Motor mounts (referred to as "active") were replaced. Also there was an ANC (Active Noise Cancelling) feature for the audio system that was replaced at the same time. After that the car was golden.........

    Maybe these "active" mounts are bad in yours from the get-go? Wouldn't be the first time a product rolls off the assembly line with some defect!

    Urge you to check out some of the Accord dedicated forums and good luck with this.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,457
    In case you missed it...

    -Year, Make, Model
    -Options
    -Dealer city/state
    -MSRP (incl destination)
    -Invoice (incl destination)
    -Purchase Price
    -Downpayment
    -Trade allowance (year, make model, mileage, options, condition of the trade)
    -TTL
    -Dealer fees (what and how much)
    -Doc fees
  • soupy95soupy95 Posts: 10
    Doc fees were a little high, but seemed like decent pricing at approx. $1000 below invoice. In reading through this forum I did not see any activity much more than this below invoice. Negotiation was fairly easy to get to this price, leading me to believe Honda may have sweetened incentives to dealers for April and that I may have left money on the table.

    -Year, Make, Model 2013 Honda Accord
    -Options EX-L V6
    -Dealer city/state Madison, NJ
    -MSRP (incl destination) 30,860
    -Invoice (incl destination) 28,292
    -Purchase Price 27,300
    -Downpayment 14,000
    -Trade allowance (year, make model, mileage, options, condition of the trade) 0
    -TTL 1911 NJ sales tax, 301 title, plates and registration
    -Dealer fees (what and how much) 0
    -Doc fees289
  • Hey guys,

    I finally bought the EX-L today. Thanks everyone for their inputs and messages. Helps newbies like us so much. Anyway here are my details

    -Year, Make, Model - 2013 Honda Accord EX-L
    -Options - Splash guards
    -Dealer city/state - Continental Honda, Countryside, IL (Nick Hanna was my salesman)
    -MSRP (incl destination)
    -Invoice (incl destination) - $25,100
    -OTD - $27,900
  • venkatpvenkatp Posts: 10
    I am shopping for 2013 Honda Accord EX-L CVT Sedan. I got an offer from Honda Dealer in Tysons Corner, VA for 26991/- OTD ( including taxes, tags.. and whatever dealer fee ).

    Is this a good deal?

    Bodystyle - 4 door Sedan
    Drivetrain - FWD
    Engine - 2.4L I-4 cyl
    Transmission - Continuously Variable
    Ext. Color - White Orchid Pearl
    Int. Color - Ivory

    Do you think it's good to add extra warranty or can i skip it? This is the first time i am buying a new car ( so far i had used only used cars ).

    Thanks for your help..
    Venkat
  • soupy95soupy95 Posts: 10
    Hard to tell whether this is a good deal or not. You may want to provide the information in a template form as other forum posters have suggested. Quoting an OTD price adds little information since state taxess and registration fees vary throughout the country.

    -Year, Make, Model
    -Options
    -Dealer city/state
    -MSRP (incl destination)
    -Invoice (incl destination)
    -Purchase Price
    -Downpayment
    -Trade allowance (year, make model, mileage, options, condition of the trade)
    -TTL
    -Dealer fees (what and how much)
    -Doc fees

    Opinions may vary on extended warranty. I personally have never purchased one and have not regretted it. Purchasing the extended warranty as a dealer add-on is at least 50% pure profit for the dealaership from what I have heard. It may be more cost-effective to price out extended warranty after the fact if it is coverage you would like to have.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    Huge amounts? What %? I think historically, I recall Toyota fleet sales has been around 8-11% of total sales. Honda, 3-5%. I'd be nice to see a link showing this for the past 2 years.

    Good to see the competition heat up in midsize cars, as it is good for everyone and all the manufacturers!
  • Invoice (incl destination) 28,292 - Purchase Price 27,300 + Doc fees 289 = 703 below invoice (solid deal soupy95)

    You had a bunch of downpayment too so it looks like there wasn't going to be a lot made on the financing which makes that -703 even better.

    I like the format you posted the details in (good way to know the dealer too)

    |As an aside| Went on through to their site and they've got one heck of a lease: $149/12k/36 on the LX Sedan. Now where's that fine print.... oh, there it is.

    Requires only $3499 down/inception! That's the highest I've seen for an LX and the fact that they're not embarrassed advertising something like that just goes to show how little people know about a lease (and why people who use information from this forum can sometimes get a break)

    I might ask them for the numbers for the spreadsheet just for fun.
  • I think 27k OTD is a good price. I personally skipped the extra warranty. You can always add them later on. Dealers try to incentivize you to buy it with your car but I believe its okay to skip it.
  • gmanusmcgmanusmc SoCalPosts: 436
    There are a number of dealers who sell hondacare on line at very good prices. Just keep in mind the pricing goes up if your vehicle has more than 6000 miles on it and you can only purchase hondacare if you are still under the vehicle's standard warranty of 36 month/36,000 miles.

    Bill G
  • venkatpvenkatp Posts: 10
    -Year, Make, Model ( 2013, Honda Accord EX-L 2.4L I-4 cyl )
    -Options ( None )
    -Dealer city/state ( Vienna, VA )
    -MSRP (incl destination) ( $28785 )
    -Invoice (incl destination) ( $25700 )
    -Purchase Price ( Not closed the deal yet )
    -Downpayment ( ------ )
    -Trade allowance (year, make model, mileage, options, condition of the trade) ( None )
    -TTL
    -Dealer fees (what and how much)
    -Doc fees

    TTL + other dealer fee = ( 1291 )

    Total Out door price = 26,991 $
  • sw3267sw3267 Posts: 3
    Thank you!
  • miteshonlmiteshonl Posts: 12
    After a long wait and all the research , I end up with buying Certified Acura TSX 2010. I know few of you may confuse with New accord or used Acura so i am just giving detail here to help some of you.

    Year, Make, Model: 2010 Acura TSX certified with one owner and clear history
    miles: 22000
    -Purchase Price 21700
    -Downpayment 0
    -TTL - 1356
    -Dealer fees (what and how much) 0
    -Doc fees 399
    Add on: wheel locks, and mud guards thrown in(with mats)
    Apr: 1.99 % with DCU bank for whole amount 65 months (-Down payment 0)

    Total OTD: 23580

    Thanks guys and keep posting your purchase.
  • carguy778carguy778 Posts: 33
    So you are saying we should not give the down payment on the LX lease. Is there a way to bring it down???
  • venkatpvenkatp Posts: 10
    I am most likely closing the deal tomorrow for 2013 Honda Accord EX-L . So fare I could bring him down to $26,200/- ( 24,800 invoice + 850 tax + 50 tags + 500 doc fee ). Doc fee seems high. He said this price doesn't include wheels locks + splash guards + door edge guards + not sure what other stuff already on this vehicle. He calls it appearance package. My aim would be to include these as part of 26,200.

    Please message, if you already have an idea of what extras we should ask during closing the deal.

    Thanks,
    Venkat
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 1,016
    I have a general question. Edmunds shows the invoice price for the 2013 Accord EX-L without nav to be 26,399. But I see other posters saying they have a lower invoice price. Does that mean Edmunds isn't a good guide to invoice price?
  • venkatpvenkatp Posts: 10
    I feel the invoice prices posted on most of the sites managed by auto lobby :). They are not here to lose business. Do you think all these sites not paid by these auto companies to help them in sales !!!
  • I received a quote for EXL V6 and would love some input.

    MSRP: 30860
    selling price $26200 + $790 Destination
    Doc fees $200
    plate transfer 47
    MI tax 6%
    OTD price $28, 898

    This was their offer without any negotiations, how much room is their for some more discounts.

    thanks for any input
  • venkatpvenkatp Posts: 10
    1. They can remove destination without much negotiation. That should bring down to 28000/-
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