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jaguar xj6

mistletoemistletoe Posts: 1
edited March 7 in Jaguar
I found a 1995 XJ6 with 56,000. It looks in excellent condition...however, from reviewing previous discussions here, believe I need to have a mechanic check it out. Please list specifically what I should mechanically check out and anything else I need to know. I am new to the jaguar world, but LOVE the car! I think the asking price is too high $21,999. It appears to be in excellent condition.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    Yes, you are correct...the asking price is way too high. You should be able to get a car like this in the $15,000-16000 range. Jaguar resale values are very low and will continue to drop, so be sure above all that you do not overpay for one.

    As for checking the car out, your Jaguar specialist should know what to look for. Aside from the usual component checks, you want to make sure that all the electrical systems and climate controls are working perfectly. It would also be a good idea to get a CARFAX (www.carfax.com) check on the car to see if it has some dubious history. Carfax is not infallable, but might reveal a salvaged title or multiple registrations, neither of which is a very good sign. However, if carfax shows nothing, that doesn't mean there IS nothing. It just improves your odds for not very much money.

    Last of all, insist on seeing all service records. A car like this without any service records is a factor in deciding to buy or not.

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Whoa..

    $22K? Yow.. I've sold 97s for a lot less than that!

    That being said, Jaguars have weakish resale.. unless... unless they have very low mileage and are in the right color, then they can bring quite a bit. What color combo is the car? And where is it located?

    95s are wonderful, I've had my 95 Vanden Plas since it was new andhave over 127,000 VERY abusive miles on it without any real trouble.

    Get me some more info on the car and I can help you a bit more, or click on my name.. My E-Mail is on the profile.

    Bill
    95 VDP
    97 XJ6
    99 XJ8
  • mveramvera Posts: 22
    I have been looking at an XJ6, 1995, 4 door, British Racing Green. It is the car I have been wanting for years. They are going to sell it to me for $15K. I believe that it is a fair price with 74K miles. My husband works at the Jaguar dealership and had the mechanic check it out. They also have the service records on it. He says it is a good deal. I am just nervous about the cost of repairs to the vehicle down the road. I called one warranty Co. and they don't even cover Jaguars. I have not found out how much the dealership will sell one for but I wanted to look at a couple others before they sell me theirs. I know just an oil change (which my husband now does for me on our domestic cars) is $50. I am a little nervous about the purchase and what to expect in the future but I REALLY like it. I have signed nothing at this point, but would like to next week. Also, being I live in Minnesota I will probably not drive it in the winter except for a weekly startup to keep her happy. I am planning on keeping this car for a very long time, so resale value isn't going to affect my decision. Being new to the Jaguar world, can someone help me out or give me a little lip ? Anything is appreciated.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    Well, if you are nervous about the cost of repairs, you shouldn't buy it, because the cost of repairs is very high. This is why warranty companies wont' touch the car. This is not to say you will have enormous repairs (presuming the car is nice and well cared for) but if it happens, it's going to hurt, so you might as well be realistic about upkeep.

    Figure normal upkeep at $250 a month and any unusual repairs on top of that.

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Shoot...

    I never spent anywhere near that on upkeep when I had my 95 VDP and my Wife (Now Ex, thankfully) was driving an S-Type.

    Newer ones are a different breed... $3K a year? Last year on the VDP it was actually $8,200 I think.

    $7,100 accident damage
    $600 new tires
    $500 servicing (Included the 120K)

    This year its' been like $80 maintinence, $150 repairs (Blown heater hose.. included $30 in towing) and soon it'll need front brakes... maybe $250 there BC its going to need new rotors...

    Bill
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    Well, I'll stick by my guns on that estimate. First of all, you are in the car business and you either cut good deals or avoid being oversold. Secondly, you may not in fact do all the maintenance required (you probably don't, few people do), and third, you might, with your car knowledge, be able to anticipate and avoid certain repairs with your vigilance. The above describes me, anyway, and I think we are alike in many ways regarding cars.

    But for a "babe in the woods" with a Jaguar, I feel pretty certain around $250/month is what it will cost, by the time you average everything out over a few years time. In fact, I would say even more for a Jaguar.

    Last of all, and totally irrelevant, am I the only one who thinks new Jaguars are looking more and more like Buicks?

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  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    I thought it was the other way around! Buicks, especially from the rear, are beginning to remind me of Jaguars. In fact, my grandmother, knowing I'm a Jag fan, pointed at a let model Park Avenue once and asked me if it was a Jag. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, as they're both good looking cars. Still, the Jag has some features that make it a bit more desirable (at least to me) than a Buick, such as the availability of a V-8 engine, rear wheel drive, a much much much much much much nicer interior, a chromed kitty bolted onto the hood....Well, you get the picture.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    yeah, but, you'd think the X sedan designers could come up with something better than copying GM.

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  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    We have a bunch in my family's business as company cars, and a bunch of people have bought out their leases...

    $250/mo? Not since the 80s. Not even close...

    Really, the newer ones cost us roughly what we're paying for the following cars:

    99 I30Touring
    99 ES300
    00 GS300

    Bill
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    Yes, but those are still in warranty. I was thinking more along the lines of a '95 car well out of warranty and at the mileage where "expendables" are just kicking in....you know, 70K-80K.

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  • valueinvvalueinv Posts: 3
    $250 a month is a reasonable estimation for the average maintenance cost for a Jaguar without warranty.

    If you want to keep the car in excellent condition all the time, $250 a month may not be enough.

    If you want to spend a lot less, you may be trading off performance, safety, enjoyment and the expected life of your Jaguar.

    Just changing the brakes of the Jag can cost over $2,000. A minor job to deal with some rust could easily cost over a thousand dollar.

    Yes, the oil change can be relatively cheap for the Jag. But many dealers just try to get you to their door by offering below-cost oil change. Don't be fooled by it.

    I guess you have to be very lucky to do without some major repairs for an old Jag in few years time.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Which car are we talking about again? An X300 is worlds away from a Series 3. I get the feeling this discussion is comapring apples to oranges.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    Like I said, a 5-6 year old Jag with 60K on up on it. So whatever model fits into that category would be my guess for $250+ per month once you average it out.

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  • mveramvera Posts: 22
    OK Shifty, thanks for the lip but this babe is not going to be stuck in the "woods". I have a great mechanic and a love for the car. If you treat this car right and maintain it on a daily basis, you don't need to spend $250 a month on service. My vehicle is in great shape and will stay that way, and I don't forsee any major problems for quite a while. She had a great check-up at the Dr. I may be a woman, but not a dumb one ! Only peolple that don't make friends with their dealership mechanics pay the highest price. It is a woman's perogative to shoot for the very best. I mean that in a good way. You only receive royal treatment if you have given them the same. That of course unless you have deep pockets.

    PS, I am not buying a warranty, too much for what they cover. I am banking the money I would have spent on one when she does have some repairs. Which I am sure will happen later on down the road.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    My 95 VDP hit 60K miles...shoot.. Spring of 98.

    I havenever approached that. Do people with S2s and S3s? Yup. I'm sure they do. And when I drove myXKE 500-1K miles a month I was there or better.

    Not on the newer cars... Remember, Right now the 2 newer Jags that we actually OWN here in FL (Aside from Inventory I own) are a 66K mile 1997 XJ6 and a 128K mile 95 VDP.

    $2,000 for a brake job? Where? Ouch. I just got quoted like $600 to do pads and rotors on all 4 corners and flush the fluid and I thought that seemed highish..

    Bill
  • mveramvera Posts: 22
    I agree, I don't no where he has his work done but it is nowhere near what I had the mechanics quoting me for future "what to look for" pricing. Hell, if you know what you're doing (thats the operative word)anyone can change the oil on her for $15 to $20.

    I am looking forward to having my XJ6 for a long time. She is so damn pretty ! God bless america.

    FYI, I found out last nite when I went to do the final purchase that the Dealership will sell me a warranty for 2 years but they wanted close to $3400. I told them they could keep it. Maybe Shifty should buy one of these, it would save him money. (bumper to bumper)

    Have a great week-end.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,404
    Well I wish you all good luck with your cars.

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  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    Are you saying you're getting a '95 and the dealer was offering you a Jaguar "bumper-to-bumper" warranty as an option???

    I bought a '97 that was just outside the Select Edition warranty window. The only option I was offered was an outside company (Warrantech) warranty. It's a 5-year/100,000 mile coverage. I paid $2,800 for it.

    Just curious. If a Jag warranty was still possible on an out-of-date car.. What was the price?

    Thx.
  • mveramvera Posts: 22
    The warranty was sold from the dealership but was not a "jaguar" warranty. It was from their company they sell for which was I believe "Western". That is the company they use for warranties on their extended for domestic also. But they wanted almost $3400 for 2 yr/24K with my mileage & year. I have a 95 w/74K.

    By the way, I checked alot of warranty companies out and I am banking my $. I know a mechanic at the dealership and he looked at some of them and says they have loop holes in alot of items. So buyer beware. Older models w/higher mileage will be taking a chance with them. AAA wanted $4500, and another co. wanted $1500, so go figure what they have up their sleeves !! I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. My car right now has a clean health ticket and I plan to keep her up to par, at lease preventive medicine helps the cause. My husband changes oil on our vehicles every 2K to 2500 miles.

    I think you got a pretty good deal from Warranttech, They wouldn't cover me because of my miles, I think they only cover up to 60K. Oh well.

    The best I found was Warranty Direct & 1Source. They had the best coverage for the money. But then again, they wouldn't cover me with my miles.

    Trust me, You'll hear me crying when something major happens. Hopefully, not for a long while though. My engine is sound.

    Have a great day,
    Michelle
  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    Ever buy (or sell) a house and buy one of those "Home Protection Plans"?? If you read the fine print, you learn that it doesn't cover a blasted thing! If the item is no longer available (i.e., a 20-year old range), it's excluded. If the problem can be traced to a "pre-existing condition" that existed before you bought warranty, it's not covered. That covers about 90% of most homes!

    The same is probably true of these fancy car warranties. I think on the XJ board someone (maybe even YOU!) said that unless you have a MAJOR problem, you're going to have to pay for the repair. And that fortunately these later Jags don't seem to have many MAJOR problems.

    Just watch where you park and stay away from parking lot "headstones" with spikes sticking up. The damage inflicted to the underside of the car by the spike is NOT COVERED!!!

    Cheers,
    Ron
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