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Buick Rendezvous Prices Paid and Buying Experience

Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,011
edited March 15 in Buick
Post the details of your buying experience here.

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  • mfarmer2mfarmer2 Posts: 67
    My husband and I test drove a Rendezvous today (Central Florida). MSRP with the luxury package was $28,760. The dealer offered to sell it to us for $26,800. This is without a trade-in. We estimated that to be about 600, or so, over the invoice. I just checked Edmunds' TMV appraiser, and it must be dated, because their quote was over a 1k more.

    In addition, GMAC is offering some very aggressive leasing terms. With zero down, a lease interest rate of 3.53% which is approx .oo123 money factor, negotiated value was 26,800, residual 55%, 12000 miles per year, 36 month term, lease payments were quoted: $388.63 + $27 (7%) tax= 415.63. We were tempted to purchase right then, but have decided to hold off so we can sell our current car by ourselves. In the meantime, we're curious to know if anyone has done any better. Thanks for any input. :-)

    Mary
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    sounds like a very reasonable offer to me. Coupled with an extremely attractive lease offer and you'll be hard pressed to do better on any 2002 car, import or domestic.

    I personally haven't posted what I paid because I (and more than a few others here) purchased under the GM employee purchase plan. Employees pay a predetermined discounted price for the vehicle, which has no bearing on the current market.
  • mfarmer2mfarmer2 Posts: 67
    I wanted to follow up on my last message, because it turns out the deal I was try to negotiate above on the CX RDV was not actually 600 over invoice. After looking at the figures more closely, we realized the dealer was including hidden costs that were actually jacking up his price to 1200 over invoice.

    Fortunately, I know a lot about leasing, and was able to spot this very quickly. We immediately backed out of that deal, not so much because we didn't think it was a fair price, but because we hadn't really had a chance to carefully evaluate local pricing or compare with other dealer offers. Not taking anything personal, we did try to work with this dealer more, but the RDV was sold before we could come to a final agreement.

    The good news is we found an RDV from another dealer across town, and closed the deal last night. The price came to around 1000 over invoice, along with GMAC's special lease program: .00126 cost factor or 3.03% interest, 55% residual, $525 aquisition, first month payment and $400 deposit.

    I'm not sure I could say this is average cost of an RDV for my area (Central FL). We worked very hard to get this deal, not to mention the dealer had to do a dealer trade to get us this RDV because he'd sold every one he had on his lot. Edmunds' TMV, for our region, lists the RDV at a few hundred below msrp. Personally, I think that's a little high for my immediate area. I hope this information will be helpful to others. :-)

    To fedlawman- Thanks for your feedback.

    Mary
  • cwjacobsencwjacobsen Posts: 293
    Another reason I and perhaps others are not posting here is that many of us ordered our Rendezvouses through the pre-release pre-order program Buick ran last spring. We got some very good pricing for ordering our vehicles before they actually showed up in dealer's showrrooms and much like Fed's comment about employee discounts, the experience wouldn't be comparable to walking in and buying today. Though if you look at the really old posts from back in April and May, you'll see about a half dozen of us going through the angst of having got a "good deal" on vehicles we had ordered sight unseen. It's pretty humorous now that I think back on it.

    Personally, I don't think the Rendezvous is "overpriced" so you getting an invoice plus sort of deal on a new model seems pretty good to me.

    CWJ
  • mfarmer2mfarmer2 Posts: 67
    Thanks. I agree with what you say. I should have explained above that I wasn't just looking at the negotiated cap cost, but also at the fact that this went along with gmac's special lease program. Their very low lease rate (3.03%) really helped to bring our monthly payments down.

    Considering the availability of RDV's in my area (very few) and current market conditions, I feel we negotiated a very good deal! :-)

    Mary
  • I got a pretty good deal on my RDV. There's a great lease rate being offered here right now, through the end of September. I ended up with 3.05%, with a 52% residual. I bought extra miles up front, since I regularly put 18-20K miles per year on my vehicles. Negotiating a price was interesting, I've never done that before! They offered $2000 off the MSRP, but I knew that was still $1200 over invoice. I had a phone quote from another dealership from early last summer for $200 over invoice, so I offered that. He did the "talk with the manager" thing, and came back and said we had a deal! Actually, it was almost too easy....
    Final price was under $30K, and I put a little extra money down to lower my payments further, under $400 per month.
  • We picked up our RDV CXL yesterday and are very pleased with the price. We purchased at $200 over dealer invoice and 0% financing for 3 years. We were one of the folks planning on purchase next spring, but the 0% was too good to pass up. In addition, we live in Washington where sales tax is as important as dealer invoice. Therefore, we ended up buying from a dealer about 60 miles from home, but at a better price as well as a .8% savings in sales tax. Buyer beware...one dealer had a dealer invoice stated at $200 over invoice but had shipping and handling $400 over what was expected. Funny how that works.
  • jwsmithjwsmith Posts: 46
    Did A GMBuyPower search to find what we wanted and got a price we could live with (could have done better, but we're satisfied). MSRP was $35,056 and we paid $32,214 plus tax, title, and license. A pleasant, no hassle experience with a friendly and knowledgeable dealer. The finance rate moved our purchase up from a planned spring event - did the 2.9% for 48 months.
  • racyracy Posts: 2
    Just picked up my pewter metallic CXL. I took the comments from this discussion and made the offer of $200 over inv. One dealer said it was too low and the another that was 55 miles away didn't bat an eyelid. He even gave me $800 more on my trade in!!!

    So thanks to all of you. My buying experience was great with this dealer and seems to be a repeat of efunkhouser's!
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    This is my first GM car also (although my relatives have had several over the years). I too have been thrilled with the level of service that my Buick dealer has given me...I am treated like family whenever I go to the dealership (it's been a while now).

    If this level of service and reliability keeps up, I may never go back to foreign cars!
  • I personally don't think that the Rendezvous is overpriced. But that said, it's great to hear people getting them at substantial discounts from MSRP. There are basically five near luxury crossover vehicles on the market. Each with its own particular strengths. Of those, the closest in low price are a fully optioned Rendezvous CXL and a base MDX. But once you factor in real world premiums for MDX's vs real world discounts for the Rendezvous, I think its clear that our vehicles give us a lot of value for our $s.

    CWJ
  • About a week before I purchased my RDV I ran across an email from GM titled "Keep America Rolling". In this email it mentioned something about a $500 e-coupon they had sent me in July.

    On the day the coupon was expire I called the last dealership in the phone book. They had my RDV but it had more features than I wanted. They accepted my offer of $30K and it was $.08 below invoice. I pulled out my $500 coupon and smiled. It was the easiest purchase I've ever made. I recommend Bob Tolkan Buick GMC very highly.

    Packer Fan
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    What a great story chauncine! $500 below invoice for a 2002...and good financing too, I assume?

    We also got more features than we needed (heated & memory seats) but now that we've lived with them, we are glad we ordered them. Definitely worth a few hundred more dollars.
  • 2.9%- A couple weeks later a co-worker told me I should have waited because GM had extended the 0% financing to 60 months. I called GMAC that evening and found that it was for cars only. This is the same co-worker who told me his neighbor picked up a loaded demo RDV for $23k with 17K miles on it. He really liked the little navigation screen feature on it. (?)
  • cmeehcmeeh Posts: 3
    I bought a cx/luxury pkg, with leather,3rd seat, and tow package for invoice and with 0%financing for 36 months. Several dealers were willing to give me this deal. Overall, the dealer I bought from was wonderful. I found the car I wanted on the internet, called her up, took my car over to get trade in value that morning, and picked up my RDV that afternoon.
  • Could you please tell me what part of USA you had such great luck with? Sounds great! Thanks -
  • cmeehcmeeh Posts: 3
    My 'pleasant transaction" was in Houston, Texas. I have only seen 3 other RDVs. Too many Suburbans and Tahoes here!!
  • Just got my RDV with cx/versality pkg, and tow package for $200 under (thats right UNDER!!!) invoice and with 0%financing for 36 months. Several dealers in Texas were giving this deal. They even got the color I wanted from another dealer 250 miles away by the next day. Looks like Texas is a Suburban/Explorer country, and RDVs are not moving fast.

    I think RDV is a great deal for the price with so many features.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    $200 under invoice! Great deal on a great car.
  • My husband and I have been researching the Rendezvous and Mazda Tribute for the past 9 months and finally bought a Rendezvous yesterday. We purchased a CX Pewter with Versatility for $500 below invoice and the 3.9% financing for 60 months. All of the negotiating was done over the internet and completely hassle free! Thank you to all of the people in the forum who swayed us towards the RDV. We are very happy with our purchase and plan to pick it up today!:-) We are hoping to put in a wood dash kit and entertainment system. Has anyone installed either of these options on the RDV and do you have any suggestions on color of the wood with the gray interior? Also, the CX doesn't have a luggage rack although we did notice it does have the track running on the top. Can you just purchase the cross bars or has anyone installed this on their RDV? If so, what was the cost and where did you locate the rack. Thanks for the help and Happy New Year to everyone.
  • can someone please help me figure out what the dealer invoice price AND MSRP is for (1) base of a RDV CXL and (2) the Luxury Pacakge with 3rd row seat --- edmunds numbers and my dealer numbers are way off ---also, thanks for your many comments -- I am close to buying
  • venettavenetta Posts: 18
    We just bought our RDV CX with Luxury Package last week and Edmunds numbers matched the dealers except for the advertising fee that Edmunds doesn't include in their price. Our dealer was very upfront with us and showed us his invoice paperwork which matched Edmunds numbers. I can't tell you what the exact MSRP or invoice is for the CXL, but if you price it on Edmunds and take a copy into the dealer they really can't dispute it. If they do, I would go to a different dealership because they are not being upfront with you. I also recommend using the gm buypower to get a price from your local dealers and then negotiate from that price with your Edmunds pricing. I live in the Cincinnati area and there were some dealers that would not go below $500 off MSRP, but the one that we chose went to $500 below invoice. Good Luck with your search, you will defenitely love your RDV!
  • What should I expect to pay for a RDV w/ SD pkg and Sunroof (MSRP - $32,877)?

    What's been your experience? (Also posted similar message on main SUV board.)
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    I didn't see your message on the main board.

    I think a few hundred over invoice is what most people are paying for RDV's.

    According to GMBuyPower.com and Edmunds.com, a CXL with 1SD and moonroof MSRP is $33,055. Invoice for this car is $29,750. Take into account the $2,002 factory incentive and your probably looking at about $28,000, give or take a couple hundred dollars.

    Good luck!
  • Thanks for your reply. I've found RDV AWDs with three(3) different base prices ($27,452-27,552-27,730), depending, I assume, on manufacture date.
    The option prices have remained the same ($4,030 for SD pkg, and $695 for sunroof), but the destination charge has risen from $575 to $600.

    Also, I've had dealers quote me $100 to $150 over "invoice," but haven't actually seen an invoice yet. One dealer told me that the advertising fee was 1.5% of MSRP (less destination), which would equate to around $500.

    This seems rather high for an ad fee; I was expecting a number in the $200-300 range. What ad fees did other RDV buyers see when they purchased? Thanks.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,011
    The advertising fee issue has been discussed frequently on the Smart Shopper. Type "advertising" into Search.

    The following is from Edmunds.com FAQ:

    "Most vehicles carry a legitimate advertising fee levied by either the manufacturer or by regional dealer groups. National or regional advertising fees, when charged, should not exceed 1 percent of the vehicle's MSRP. Because individual dealership advertising is a cost of doing business, you should never pay an advertising fee levied by the dealer rather than a regional dealer association or the manufacturer."

    Hope this helps!

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  • netnerdnetnerd Posts: 117
    Hi,

    I went to one dealership--Wilkie Buick--and told them I knew the invoice price (had gotten it from Edmunds) and asked them what the best price they could give me was. They came back with a price about $1100 over invoice. I told them that it was too high and the salesman went to "talk to his manager" and came back with a price $300 lower, but still $800 over invoice.

    I told him I'd have to think about it. I checked at several other dealerships and only one of them--Armen of Ardmore--had the exact RDV that I wanted (color and option combinations). I had to buy one of the ones on the lot in order to get the 0% financing which was scheduled to end at the end of October (it was around October 10th at the time), so I couldn't custom order one. Of course a week or so after I purchased mine GM extended the 0% for several weeks or months!

    I sat down with a salesman at Armen and told him I knew the invoice price and wanted to hear what the best price he could give me was. He went away to consult the computer and after what seemed like 25-30 minutes came back and said he was having trouble with the computer. He showed me what he said was the invoice and asked me how much profit I thought they should make over that. I said $200 and he said, "You've got a deal." (or something to that effect). I didn't close the deal at that point, though, because I thought I'd give Wilkie a chance to beat them.

    The price I had gone in to Armen hoping to get was actually higher than what I ended up getting. When he asked how much I thought they should make I figured I'd shoot even lower. Now, having read that some folks got theirs below invoice, maybe I should have gone even lower.

    I stopped by Wilkie that night and told him I'd gotten a better price at another dealer and that, in fact, the other dealer's invoice price was even lower. The sales manager at Wilkie then told me that it couldn't be the same vehicle because everyone pays the same invoice. I had found Wilkie to be the stereotypical slimy auto dealership so I suspected that they were trying to screw me. The invoice sheet Wilkie had showed me (which had an invoice price higher than Edmunds listed) was a sheet of paper with text only at the top and bottom but with a big blank spot in the middle. Armen's invoice sheet that was full of text, not just at the top and bottom which led me to suspect that Wilkie had copied a different vehicles invoice sheet but covered up the identifying information.

    The next day I stopped by Armen on my way to work and took a picture of the Rondy's window sticker with my digital camera. Then I called Wilkie and had him fax me a copy of the window sticker from the RDV I had looked at there (I was surprised when he agreed to do this!). I compared the two window stickers and they were the exact same vehicles.

    The one I was about to buy had 210 miles on it as it had been test driven a number of times and was apparently driven to Armen from a dealer in NJ during the course of a dealer exchange. The one at Wilkie had no miles, but when I had driven it for a three day extended test drive I was experiencing problems with the HUD which made me leery about buying it.

    I am buying on the 36 month 0% financing deal.

    I wish it had a longer warranty, though. One of my few complaints.

    Hope I didn't lose anyone with my rambling. I just wanted to put in all the important points I could think of.
  • rothlrothl Posts: 2
    I started my purchase odyssey in the middle of January when my '94 Transport started leaking oil.
    I liked the RDV with the versatility package and the rebate combined with my GM card dollars made the purchase tempting. I figured invoice to be 25,202.

    I first went to the websites. An autobytel rep called me with the "best deal out there" for a Rendezvous at 500 over invoice.

    I also notified GM buypower and an internet dealer from 45 miles away emailed me with a 600 over invoice bid. I noted on this forum that people are getting better deals and said as much when we spoke on the phone a few days later. He then came back with invoice- 25,202. Having not visited a dealer yet I said I was going to try to get it lower.

    I've used priceline for vacations and since I was ready to buy, I thought I'd give it a shot. If a dealer accepts my bid and I don't buy I'm out $100. If I do buy, then pricline takes $50. I bid 24960 and let them contact all the dealers in the Cleveland area. Got a notice the following working day that nobody accepted the offer. I spoke with a service rep at Priceline who said that nobody will go under invoice for RDVs.

    Visited the nearest Buick dealer and plopped the invoice e-mail on his desk and asked if he could match it. They had nothing on the lot that was even close to what I wanted. He told me that he didn't think he could get me the car at that price because "the price has gone up $200 in the last three weeks". He would try to locate a vehicle manufactured before the price increase but couldn't guarantee anything. I told him if he couldn't find a car at $25,202. I'd go back to the dealer and give him the shot. After hearing that he exclaimed,"we're gonna get this deal done."

    I figure I'll give the local dealer 5 more days and then return to the out of town dealer. It probably sounds like I'm being to selective on price but I buy a car every 4 years and am not too schooled on the art of dealing.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,011
    Although you may not be going that route now, I thought you may still be interested in this discussion Smart Shopper.

    PRICELINE.COM - experiences & comments on buying vehicles thru Priceline?

    Good luck finding your Rendezvous!

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  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Anyone in Canada get a good deal on a base CX? Wondering how low dealer's will go up here?
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