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  • brentg2brentg2 Posts: 1
    I have read all the posts from #1 to #577 they contain a great deal of information from all of you. I am trying to help a friend determine his needs in purchasing a F-450 or F-550 crew cab pickup I cannot find any info on pricing available as far as invoice or options on edmund's. This truck will be used as a hotshot rig pulling up to #23,000lbs in the southern US. Could anyone on the list point me to some figures for these vehicles. He has found three in stock at two different dealers that would serve his purpose well but without knowing some numbers he feels he is going to pay a premium for them. Another question I have these vehicles do not have beds at all, does the dealer subtract the price from a standard rig or is this just standard.He is going to have a custom bed built but doesn't want to pay for a bed twice..I have never bought a new vehicle so much of the dealer price verses factory is foreign to me.All help would be appreciated
  • blightblight Posts: 22
    I am replacing the worthless 4 pin trailer tow electrical plug with a 7 pin for my trailer that is to be here soon. My question is, what have others done for the plug? I tried to get a replacement bracket from the dealer, but he couldn't find one listed. The plastic near the center of the bumper doesn't lend itself to mounting there, and the ones that strap to the hitch cross bar would be hard to get to up behind the bumper.

    Any suggestions, comments or part numbers would be greatly appreciated.
  • 00610061 Posts: 6
    Hi there.
    Please folks, I need help. I am looking for 1999
    F 250 SD SC,4x4 diesel manual,LB,Lariat. Point is
    I need it by late June. Does any of you know of
    a dealer that might be able to deliver the truck
    by this day ? (pref' West/Northwest part of the
    US .
    TIA.
  • br1br1 Posts: 22
    Good morning, I am happy as can be. Just ordered an F250 SD, power stroke, XLT, crew, 4x4, SB. It seems some of you got awesome deals. I got $400 over and am pretty happy considering all of the "begging" I did. It turns out my local dealer (Stoner and Wade - Quarryville) beat the nearest competition.

    He has ordered 2 diesels in the last 6 weeks and one is in, the other is being built. Sounds like good turn around considering what I heard in the previous comments. I'm not getting my hopes up because I usually get let down.

    I drove the 5.4L and wasn't happy. V10 gets crappy mileage and I tow motorcycle trailers and wood so I went power stroke.

    I'll update when more info received.

    Thanks for all of the previous input.
  • LanceLance Posts: 18
    Just got a call from the dealer which I ordered my 250 SD CC L V10 4X4, etc (I ordered 12 weeks ago). He said the truck is being built! Without going back through the past 550 msgs, can anyone remind me how long I should expect to wait from this point?

    The dealer said it would be less than 6 weeks, but could not guarantee anything less. What do you think, should I cancel all my business trips, break open the piggy banks, and put the family on high alert? Gee, the last time I felt like this was when my wife was in her 9th month...
  • tnt2tnt2 Posts: 115
    blight

    My bracket for my 7 pin plug is mounted to the crossbar of the hitch and is very easy to reach. The hitch bar is only a couple of inches behind the bumper. I don't see the problem your having.
  • blightblight Posts: 22
    tnt2

    It didn't look to me like one of those would fit. It looked like it is up behind a bumper flange enough to be a problem with mounting. I also would prefer to have it at the back edge of the bumper rather than having to reach up behind and fumble with it there.

    Thanks for the info.
  • alpmanalpman Posts: 12
    I'm waiting on my V-10 CC 4X4, going on 8 weeks now. Any recommendations on what octane fuel I will have to use?
  • moe7moe7 Posts: 24
    The trucks book says use 87 octane but i will be using 89.They also do not recomend using "PREMIUM" gas.

    My V10 runs very well on the 89

    moe7
  • cowpokescowpokes Posts: 33
    Hello Lance

    It was almost exactly a month from build to delivery for my SD. And they had it misplaced in KC before it made it back on the tracks to Denver.
    So it maybe sooner.

    Cowpokes
  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    I'd use 87 octane. A higher octane rating denotes a slower burning fuel which, while it may be a little quieter (unlikely) costs more and gives you slightly less power.
  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    Measurements of Dodge 3500 4X4 and Ford F350 4X4

    Dodge Ford
    Road to bed floor at tailgate: 37.5 38.0
    Bed floor to top of bed rail: 19.0 19.5
    Bed rail to top of cab: 21.0 26.0

    These measurements are what I would call pretty damn close, with the exception of the bedrail to cab measurement. I really don't see why all the Ford guys are complaining about lowering blocks, etc, when the Dodge folk aren't. What do those Dodge guys know that we don't?
  • br1br1 Posts: 22
    Anyone have any luck with using a K&N filter on a PS? It did some good with my F150 5.0.
  • br1br1 Posts: 22
    One more question but this one is very important. How high is a F250 superduty PS with towing package with the LT265 A/T tires vs. the all season vs the LT235 A/T tires. I just ordered the 265 LT's and my garage is 6'10" at th lowest point (the door). However, the cab will be through the door while the front tires are about 1" lower on the driveway. Any help with actual heights or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks in advance
    BR1
  • KEH4x4KEH4x4 Posts: 109
    I have used 87 octane (regular unleaded)in mine at every fill up. It runs excellent with no pinging even when towing.
  • br1br1 Posts: 22
    keh4X4 - Thanks for the response, I'm measuring one (myself) tomorrow first thing. Dealer stated that the truck with A/T's in 6'9" but also included the "approximately" words that worry me a little. With 6'9", I think it'll do.

    I agree with the comments on fuel. My cousins V10 van, even when hauling motorcycle, tools etc, didn't exhibit any differences. Alos, I never saw increased power or mileage with higher octanes. I believe all have the same "detergents" now?

    CB antenna - as you can guess, I have a WILSON 2000 magnetic for sale because it won't fit between my garage door and truck roof. However, I loved this on my F150 and my father has always used a K40 with excellent results. He has a quality CB and I have a Radioshack special tat works fine.
  • singer4singer4 Posts: 43
    The hgt. on 4x4's is critical..for your garage doors as well as towing 5th whls. Top of rail to the ground...57 inches on F250, 4x4. Underside of 5th wheel...60 inches. RV dlrs. want at least 6 inches...math dictates that you have 2 choices..well, actually only one!!At one point, Ford was authorizing removing the 4 inch block, etc....I will find out Friday from Mark Wilson, the eng. guru from Ky. Plt. as to the outcome of Ford's decision as to whether they will approve a kit to lower the 4x4 by only 2 inches. If they do, therein lies your second choice...your 5th whl needs to be flipped on it axles, in order to acquire an additional 4 inches, thus making the space between 5th and truck sides...approx. 8-9 inches...plenty from what I've been told.
    Good luck! JB
  • blightblight Posts: 22
    Stanford,

    You are wrong on the octane numbers. Pinging is caused from ignition starting from two different points in the cylinder. The spark plug and usually from a hot spot or in the old days from the high compression. When these two flame fronts collide, you have your pinging. The higher octane fuel is a FASTER burning fuel that allows the spark ignited flame front to complete before a second can start.

    I have heard for years that the Dodge people have had the same height problems with trailers as the SD's are having now.
  • markbuckmarkbuck Posts: 1,021
    blight and stanford... here's my take.

    pinging - caused by an uneven flamefront that propagates away from the spark plug towards the sides of the cylinder. Using excessively low octane fuel can result in compressive heating in front of the flame front with secondary flame fronts forming and causing the 'ping' noise. 'Low' octane fuel is more likely to burn unevenly when cylinder temperatures and compression is high and has something to do with more reactive sites on their chains of hydrocarbons.
    Detonation is ignition from a hot spot within the cylinder head or piston before the spark plug fires and is very hard on the motor....

    Guess these two definitions overlap as I read them.

    I am not sure that burning rate is correlated with octane numbers. I have personal experience with reduced power using 100 octane LL aviation gas in 2-stroke motorcycles. Av fuel burns very slowly as it is designed for 2000 rpm air cooled aircraft engines.

    I believe that you should run the minimum octane fuel that your engine will tolerate without ping. That fuel will produce the most power, best fuel economy, plus it's less expensive to boot.
    Heck, I live at 7,000 ft and it's hard to get anything to ping up here no matter what the the octane rating. But when I tow in the low desert, I am very careful to run the minimum octane that the engineers at the factory recommend, or go higher if I detect a ping.
  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    Well, I've done some more looking and I think that we're both equally wrong -- or as I prefer to think about it, equally right. Pinging is indeed caused by the multiple ignitions as you described, but is combatted by using evenly-burning gas rather than faster-burning fuel.

    A great source of information is the gasoline FAQ.

    A couple of excerpts:

    the octane rating of the fuel reflects the
    ability of the unburnt end gases to resist
    spontaneous autoignition under the engine
    test conditions used

    Flame speed does not correlate with octane

    Doh!
  • texaszachtexaszach Posts: 119
    Singer4 - Some posts back it was reported that the factory has responded to the bed height dilemma by mandating the two inch block as a standard production item. Can you get a clarification on this when you speak with the Ky. plant engineer on Friday?
  • markbuckmarkbuck Posts: 1,021
    Here is more of the excerpt

    The antiknock ability is related to the "autoignition temperature" of the
    hydrocarbons. Antiknock ability is not substantially related to:
    1. The energy content of fuel, this should be obvious, as oxygenates have lower energy contents, but high octanes.
    2. The flame speed of the conventionally ignited mixture, this should be evident from the similarities of the two reference hydrocarbons.
    Although flame speed does play a minor part, there are many other factors that are far more important. ( such as compression ratio, stoichiometry, combustion chamber shape, chemical structure of the fuel, presence of antiknock additives, number and position of spark plugs, turbulence etc.)
    Flame speed does not correlate with octane.
  • moe7moe7 Posts: 24
    O.K. so which should i use in your opinion???

    87 or 89? I live in New Hampshire and hate to hear any engine knock! I have been using mobil 89 octane gasoline.

    moe7
  • singer4singer4 Posts: 43
    Yeah!! I'll be checkin' with Mark W. on Thurs. or Fri. Dlrshp in AZ is waiting on auth. kit for 2in drop...my first step...drop 2inches, then install hitch(Pullrite), then back it up under the 5th...see what the clearance is...if it isn't at least 6 inches...then the RV springs have to be flipped...no alternatives here!
    By the way, just spoke to rep. at Pullrite...strongly suggest going with SuperGlide(400 # unit@ $2200...best price I found)avoids the worry when turning---automatically moves unit back 18 inches, not just 9 in., and no need to get out and move levers!
    Singer
  • br1br1 Posts: 22
    Just a overall height comment - I stopped and measured an F250 crew cab, 4x4, power stroke, auto, with trailer towing, short bed with LT265 A/T's and the overall height was 6'6". I also checked a F250 super cab diesel and an F350 crew cab V10 they were the same.

    Note - someone put in numbers that add to 7' so something doesn't add up. I know this doesn't help with fifth wheel heights but I was concerned for garage entry (I have a std. 7' garage but door hangs approx 1 1/2").

    By the way, how do you handle the "wait". I have a long way to go and am chomping at the bit already (just got VIN).
  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    I wouldn't worry about the door -- do you have a garage door opener? The angled piece that hangs down is what would stop me from putting the truck in a garage if I wanted to.

    The official height of my truck was 6'9". If its not exactly that (measured at the back of the cab) its really close.
  • br1br1 Posts: 22
    I measured the garage door (to the bottom of the width of the garage door) at 6'10". I have a double wide door so the "angled piece" I think you spek of is in the middle (between the wifes car and my truck) and doesn't come into play. The dealer also stated 6'9" but the trucks on the lot are not quite that high. As long as that is a max I'm completely happy. I guess I can nickname myself -"hate scraping swindows".

    Thanks for the info.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    br1,

    I am the Ram 3500 owner who measured his truck for stanford. My Ram stands exactly what the book says it does - 77.5". Assume that as your suspension settles, you may lose as much as an inch of height.
  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    I just measured mine to the highest point -- 81", just like in the book. Hmm. I may have mismeasured the bed-to-cab height before, I'm pretty confident about the other ones.
  • stanfordstanford Posts: 606
    Oh -- my numbers were for the F350 as well. Looks like you'll just make it.
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