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Sorry to see it happen to someone else.
1) check engine light: the check engine light frequently be on. I found it is on most often when there are much gas (e.g., more than 3/4 full tank) or little gas (e.g., less than 1/3 tank) while it is off when there are about 1/2 tank of gas. My friend said it may be because I didn't screw the gas cap tightly after I fill in gas. But each time I screw the gas cap to my best and donot stop unitl I hear the click more than three times. has anyone experienced the similar problem? Is it serious? Can I pass the emission test when the CEL is on?
2) The tires of my car need to be replaced now. Are there any recommendation for the new tires? I heard that some tires can reduce the noise and shimmy of the Elantra but I don't know the details.
Thanks a lot!
Dong
For replacement tires, I've been very happy with the Kumho Ecsta 716 HP4s I bought last fall for my '01 GLS. They are quieter than the OEM Michelins, provide a nice ride, and good handling. Also quite inexpensive. I've had no shimmy problems with either the original Michelins or Kumhos. I had the Kumhos installed at Discount Tire (nationwide chain) and they had one of the Hunter balancing machines that seem to do the best job on the Elantra, and they also torqued the lug nuts by hand to avoid over-tightening (another potential cause of wheel shimmy).
I had it repaired once (Hyundai refused to document) and now I am taking it back for the same problem.
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
I suggest giving up on looking for stuff in the glovebox area and try looking under the hood.
Also, for someone 6'-2" who wants a car with reasonably good mileage for suburban commuting on the plains of Texas, would you recommend looking at the Tiburon (2.0 4-cyl w/ AT) in lieu of the Elantra?
Other cars I am looking at: Focus, Scion xA, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Aerio (although the Aerio's forum is scarier than this place!) I currently have a 95 Ford Aspire (aka Kia Avella) with 115,000 miles as my primary commuter. It is a very plain car, but has always gotten 30-40 mpg and has been very, very reliable... so Korean nameplates don't necessarily scare me off.
I think you'll find the Tiburon to be more cramped and have a much harsher ride than the Elantra, but you can test drive one and see what you think. The xA has a harsh ride also. For suburban commuting, I think you'll find the Elantra, Focus, Spectra/Spectra5, or Aerio more of a fit. Also look at the Mazda3, it's a very nice car--be sure to check its A/C on a hot day though, there are reports by some buyers it doesn't cool very well.
I looked at the Mazda3, but the value just doesn't seem to be there. Maybe their quality is better than that of some of the others here, but it just doesn't seem like it compares well- costs more than a grand more than the others, and not nearly as well equipped, not to mention the mileage isn't quite as good.
I've heard mention of number of defects per 100 vehicles. Where can a person find that information? Also, I wish there was a way to classify the defects. Without getting into details, it would be good for the owner to simply rate whether the defect or problem made them wish they hadn't bought th car. I mean, a broken radio is a pain, but a blown engine is a REAL problem, you know?
Just trying to state that the vehicle seems to be a solid reliable car, but if the dealer stinks even minor issues will seem horrendous. I have enjoyed both of mine. The only reason I got out of the '02 was due to a shoulder injury and a 5spd not being compatible! For what it is worth, the auto shifts just fine, but the 5spd is a lot more fun.
Jim
We bought an Elantra GT Hatchback with AT in May 2004 and haven't had to use the warranty so far. I was a little nervous about rotating the tires due to the shimmy reported on some Elantras, but we had that done a few months ago and I could not tell any difference in the driving feel. Bottom line is we're very satisfied, so much so that at this point I am pretty sure our next car will be a Hyundai.
If J.D. Power had asked me about my '01 Elantra when it was 3 years old, I would have had to report all the "problems" the car had had up to that point: side air bag recall (fixed before delivery), check engine light coming on twice (once because of a defective O2 sensor, replaced under warranty; once because DW didn't tighten the gas cap enough); wind noise at driver's A pillar (fixed by dealer); interior rattle when car is cold (reduced but not fixed by dealer despite multiple attempts); squeak in clutch pedal (fixed by dealer); and I think there was another recall in there somewhere. All of these things except the O2 sensor were taken care of during normal maintenance visits. But the car has never failed me, nothing major has happened, and it still runs and looks (except for some dings) new. My '04 GT has had a couple of recalls (gas line seal and airbag reprogramming) and some condensation in one of the headlight covers; these were taken care of during normal maintenance also and the car has run flawlessly since new.
Here's the weird thing. When the AC quits working, the engine gets very hot, almost immediately. The radiator fans kick in, but do no good. The coolant level is fine. The only way I could keep the engine in a safe operating range while driving home (still running hotter than normal) was to run the heater full blast and keep the rpms as low as possible (2K or less). It's like when the AC compressor quits, coolant stops circulating through the engine. I'm thinking the thermostat must me electronic, instead of mechanical (thermo spring) and somehow tied to the circuit that affects the AC. If this is true, might be as simple as a bad relay somewhere in the circuit. I have no idea, but the engine overheating seems directly related to the AC failing. I will take it into a dealer first thing next week. Will be another long drive with the heater running full blast.
Any ideas??? I've searched the posts, but found very little on overheating and AC problems.
As for the headlamps, if they both go out at the same time it's not the bulbs but some kind of electrical problem. It's probably something other than the bulbs in any case--bulbs should last much more than a few months. I finally had to replace one headlamp bulb in my '01 GLS a few weeks ago. The other is original.
I am told (and fully believe as true) that new cars do not require the old
"first oil change at 1000 miles" to clear the motor oil of micro-shavings
and things from early wear-in of a new engine.
But I have a related question about the oil that comes already in the car.
Because motor oil does have a "shelf life," and since the oil in a car bought
late in the model year may have been sitting in there possibly for months,
would it be important to get fresh oil into the car (thereby removing the oil
that may have indeed been sitting in there for many months before purchase)?
Inquiring new car owner begs to know, thanks !
I too believe the oil in a new car should be changed at 1000 miles for the reasons you give. Dealers may not agree with us.
As far as the oil that sits in a new car on the lot...that is a good question and I never thought about it. All the new cars I have bought since 1986 were all sitting on lots waiting to be bought. I never had an oil related failure in any new car. My present car (an 01 Elantra GT) has a biuld date of June,26,2001. I bought the car in Oct, 2001 so the oil was 4 months old and made the trip from Korea. Worry not...enjoy your new car.
So, I went to an area Discount Tire, asked for Kumho Ecsta 716s, and drove away about an hour (and $360) later. There was a pretty bad shimmy that would come and go at highway speeds, so back to Discount Tire I went. I had asked them to check the RFV for the tires beforehand, and all were below 18 lbs. I looked over a copy of the TSB from the Hyundai WebTech site in further detail and noticed something about having to drive around for 10 miles or so to get an accurate RFV value. As I had already driven around that much with the new tires, they checked the RFV again. This time, one of the tires was at around 32 lbs! So, they replaced the bad tire and sent me on my way.
The shimmy has gone away for the most part, but maybe a day or two later I started to get a slight (but constant) "rumbling" at 65-75. In some ways, it's more like "road feel" than a shimmy, but I'm not sure why it took a day or two to appear. I don't remember getting this same sort of road feel in the OEM Michelins when they were properly balanced.
For those who have Kumhos on their Elantras, did you have a slightly rougher-feeling steering wheel for a while compared to what you had before, or do you suppose I need to get Discount Tire to try balancing my tires again? (They don't have the Hunter GSP9700, but they have a similar Hunter model which they say does the same things. I might break down and have another local tire shop with a "real" GSP9700 give it a try, and then if they can fix the shimmy, I'll present their bill to Discount Tire and see if they'll reimburse me for something they should have done right to begin with...)
I suppose there is also a chance that another tire has gone bad, especially because the car was shimmy free for a day or two after getting one of the other tires replaced.
Any other thoughts?
Click on the words "Service Information" right under the Hyundai logo on the left side of the window. In the new window that opens, click on the Tab named "Shop". Fill in "Elantra" for the model and "2005" for the year right under the list of tabs. Then double-click each of the following to open a document that shows you how to take out the radio: Body Electrical system - Audio and Antenna - Audio Unit - Removal.
Before you start their instructions put the steering wheel as far down as it will go and move your gear shift as far away from the dash as you can (automatic stick it in L).
I would also add a step 4.5 that says slowly and carefully pry out the dash panel with a dash panel removal tool ($5 at an auto parts store) starting at the air vent to the left of the steering wheel. Go slow and use your fingers as as much as you can to prevent denting up the dash panel or the dash.
"Disconnect the connectors from the instrument facia panel" means unplug all of the electrical connectors from behind the dash panel you just loosened. They all squeeze top and bottom if I remember correctly.
If you aren't comfortable pulling out the dash panel then just have a radio installer do it. It's really not that hard but don't try to do it in a hurry.
We have a problem that's causing our 2004 Elantra GT with 5-speed MT and about 30,000 miles to get really poor gas mileage (averaging 23 mpg now versus 29 mpg a year ago). We've taken it to two dealers that have not been able to find the problem. Anyone have a recommendation for a dealer (and maybe even the name of the mechanic) in the DC/Baltimore area that has diagnosed and fixed a tricky problem with your Hyundai?
Thanks!
the first oil change, I told the advisor I had noticed water looking stains
around the floor boards, and though it was coming in from under the car.
After putting in four carpets the dealership trashed the inside of my car I am now the proud owner of the quicksand car as the manager Mike Farias calls it.
I feel that owners need to know that not all dealership repair shops should work on their car
Hyundai motor dealership (ie. Gosch) as I see it is herded with other foreign dealerships (ie. Nissan), the problem is that their not always a skilled competent
Hyundai certified technician working on your vehicle. In fact some repair items get damage because the intern works on the vehicle
Because Hyundai sells inexpensive cars even the Manufacturers Rep. at a BBB hearing said "what do you want from a ten thousand car, It's a Hyundai"
Having a Hyundai is like having a Yugo, the dealership does not give it the same attention as they give the Nissan
Be for you place your car in the hands of a Hyundai dealership for repairs check it out, and forget the BBB the memberships are paid for not earned
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Can you please explain the term "quicksand car". I assume it means the more we work on it the worse it gets?
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***feel that owners need to know that not all dealership repair shops should work on their car
Hyundai motor dealership (ie. Gosch) as I see it is herded with other foreign dealerships (ie. Nissan),"
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Just because a dealership is a multi-car type dealer doesnt mean they are bad. My dealership is a Chrysler/Jeep/Hyundai and has been very cooperative and has repaired everything I asked (from squeaks in the rear seat to the Cold Start TSB they never flinched just did it).
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***Because Hyundai sells inexpensive cars even the Manufacturers Rep. at a BBB hearing said "what do you want from a ten thousand car, It's a Hyundai" *
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The BBB is the biggest waste this side of...I tried to use them years ago with no cooperation. I'm not surprised on their attitude on *cheap* cars. They are funded by who? Nuff said.
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***Having a Hyundai is like having a Yugo, the dealership does not give it the same attention as they give the Nissan
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All depends on the dealer. That statement is too blanket for me to agree with.
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***Be for you place your car in the hands of a Hyundai dealership for repairs check it out, and forget the BBB the memberships are paid for not earned
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Thats car buying 101. ALWAYS check out the dealer BEFORE you buy any brand car.
VW does NOT provide this guidance to the American consumer, because we wouldn't listen anyway and would still be inclined to do a 1K or 3K oil change. That's what the service manager at my local dealership told me, anyway.
I don't have any idea if Hyundai does something similar, but just thought I'd share that.
That said, I just did my first oil change on my 2005 Elantra GT (MT) at ~7000 miles. I definitely should have investigated before putting it off and hopefully it doesn't come back to bite me.
What I used:
I replaced it with Valvoline Synthetic 5W30. BTW... I used a FRAM actuator controlled plug replacement that, in my opinion, is better designed than the FUMOTO (spelling?). I have only looked at the FUMOTO online and although it looks well constructed, I think the idea of an actuator is much better. The way it works is that you replace the drain plug with the new actuator plug and then you can screw one of two things onto the end. A cap, when you're using the vehicle, or the actuator insert piece, which comes with a small (10") hose attached. screwing in the hose insert activates the actuator and the oil flows out. Very nice design. Plus it is VERY low profile and when it's sealed with the cap, there is ZERO risk of something turning the valve unintentionally. $12.99 at Auto Zone.
jim
* repeated short-distance driving
* extensive idling
* driving on dusty, rough roads
* more than 50% driving in heavy city traffic during hot weather above 90 F
* towing a trailer
This is from Section 5 of the 2004 Elantra Owner's Manual. There is nothing said in the Owner's Manual about the first oil change, other than the maintenance schedule mentioned above.