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2013 and Earlier - Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,785
    edited December 2012
    The Sonata is selling very well. It's gone from being almost an asterisk ten years ago to being the #4 selling midsize car. The reason they don't sell more is that Hyundai's huge factory in Alabama is at capacity. They've had so much demand, in that, that they've just hired another full shift and are now running the factory almost around the clock to make more. Right now the Sonata is beating out the Fusion, Malibu, Passat, etc.

    sales thru Nov. 2012
    Toyota Camry 373,479
    Honda Accord 302,444
    Nissan Altima 278,968
    Hyundai Sonata 209,779
  • Yes, sonata is selling well but not as much as last year.
    Year over year other cars are killing Sonata. Camry and Accord are back on top now in market share.

    I visited dealer today to pick out a car.
    I was going for white until I noticed how the chrome and the tail lights pop on black and red. On white the chrome just blends in.
    Ruby Red looks good in the showroom especially with the tinted glass.
    I test drove GLS model but refused to talk about "numbers".

    Overall I see salesman wanting to make a deal.
    I am just not sure how to tell them my number.
    I am planning to write down all the features I want on a paper next t price I want to pay. I have not done this before so it is hard to do this verbally.

    Any quick tips on exterior colors and interior colors??
    Right now I am leaning toward Ruby red with Black interior.
    I wanted grey interior but red does not come with grey.
  • Congrats!
    Did the price include window tint?
    What color are the exterior and interior?'Did you get financing from Hyundai? Any rebate?

    Knowing what everyone is paying puts my mind at ease.
    I can always walk away instead of getting suckered in.
    I will try to get similar deal.
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 1,785
    I think red would look great. That's what I'm planning to get for my next car.

    And your strategy of writing down a price seems pretty good. In terms of features, why don't you check out what's available on each trim at the Hyundai site so that you know the exact model you like.

    It might be wise to send an email on that exact model you want to 2 or so Hyundai dealers who are closest, and ask them to give you their best price on it. But your way would probably work too.

    With rebates, you might get $2000 off list price....?
  • saz25saz25 Posts: 152
    My suggestion as I've mentioned here on this forum. Never ask the sales rep for a price. You need to be in control. When you are armed with the information such as invoice price, hold back amount, current incentives, etc, you tell them what your price is. You can get all incentives without even mentioning it.

    Never say how you arrived at your price. Factor the incentives into your quote. Currently there are about $2000 of Hyundai incentives.

    Remember the margin is huge on Sonatas.

    Steve
  • sunsonshaan07sunsonshaan07 Posts: 36
    edited December 2012
    I agree that there are other cars killing the Sonata (and for that matter the sister car too, the Optima!) I just gave up on my 2007 Sonata Limited V6 as right from just jut before 60k miles the ESC light was intermittently and then frequently lighting up on the dash. It was mostly on Moderately to very wet wintery weather and the occasional dry local commute situations too. By the time October 2012 came around I was at 75k miles on that car and figured enough is enough! Afterall, the dealers nearby were playing their shenningans with me over this issue. That being the case and all, I traded up for a far nicer 2012 Nissan Maxima with the Premium, Premium Tech, Cold Packages, External Underground Security Lighting, HIDs, Climate Controlled (Heated and Cooled) Driver's Seat, Heated Steering Wheel, Spoiler, etc. And yes, addons like Pinstriping, Nitrogen Tire Fill, Window Tints, Floor Mats and Wheel Locks were thrown in. There were pretty decent incentives going on at the time I bought ($4k from Nissan, $500 from NMAC and then over $5500 from Dealer). So in total just over $10k off. With the trade in of my Sonataa getting me around $9k (It had been in a minor rear-ender where I was hit by the other party), I walked out with the Maxima with a lien of about $27k-$28k after TT&L. Overall, the gas mileage at highway speeds for my particular driving conditions was moderately better in the Maxima over the Sonata I had. And who could go wrong with Bluetooth Audio Streaming on Bose with 9 Speakers including 2 Subwoofers? Bose over Dimension or Infinity Audio! All day!! Every day!! :shades:
  • By the way, the Camry scored poorly in the 2012 and '13 models for overall safety. They showed a story on the News this morning on it. I was laughing all the way as I personally hate the Camry for being such a bland car. They even lowered hte horsepower rating on the ES350 to match the Camry's output, which is pretty sad. Toyota to me is just clueless!
  • Michelle- our Sonata is Ruby Red with tan and black interior. No window tinting. Yes we financed about half and therefore qualified for $1500 holiday cash. Mike
  • Awesome choice. The red looked better on the showroom floor with the tint.
    If you have any sun at all you should get the tint.

    I liked the red myself but I want grey or black interiors.
    Red GLS does not come with these interiors so I might have to choose another color.

    Black or Pacific Pearl are my next choices.
    Shimmering white looks good by itself especially today after dust storms muddied up every car here in Texas.
    But the darker colors make teh chrome and fluid design of Sonata pop even more. They will be a pain to keep clean though.

    I will go to dealer tomorrow or Saturday and make an offer.
    I will stay strong and be ready to walk away.
  • unlv_rebelsunlv_rebels Posts: 32
    edited December 2012
    Hyundai provides great warranty:
    - 10-YEAR/100,000-MILE POWERTRAIN PROTECTION
    - 5-YEAR/60,000-MILE NEW VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY
    - 7-YEAR/UNLIMITED MILE ANTI-PERFORATION WARRANTY
    - 5-YEAR/UNLIMITED MILE 24-HOUR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE

    The following components are covered by Hyundai for time and mileage limits indicated:
    • Radio and audio systems (i.e., radio, compact disc player, DVD player, navigation system, and Bluetooth®): 3 years/36,000 miles
    • Paint: 3 years/36,000 miles
    • Battery: 3 years/unlimited miles (100% covered 2 years/unlimited miles; after 2 years and within 3 years, 25% cost of battery and 100% labor cost covered)
    • Air conditioner refrigerant charge: 1 year/unlimited miles
    • Adjustments: 1 year/12,000 miles
    • Wear items: 1 year/12,000 miles (e.g., belts, brake pads and linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses)

    The extended warranty from Warranty Direct is about $1100 for a plan ($100 ded per covered failure visit) called "10/100 PowerWrap Plus" that covers for 10 years/100,000 miles.

    I generally don't buy extended warranty for electronics. What's the general opinion on Extended Warranty for new cars ? Is it worth paying for it ? It comes to about $110 per year.

    Waranty Direct:
    Failure - refers to the Failure of a covered part under normal service. A covered part has failed when it can no longer perform the function for which it was designed solely due to its condition, and not due to the action or inaction of any non-covered parts. In addition, a Failure will be deemed to have occurred when a covered part has worn beyond the manufacturer’s tolerances allowed for the particular Vehicle at the mileage when the problem occurs.

    PowerWrap Plus also provides coverage for the following listed specific parts:
    Emission Systems: Air Fuel Ratio Sensor, Air Induction System, Air Pump, Anti-Knock Sensor, Barometric Pressure Sensor, Canister Purge Solenoid, Deceleration Valve, EGR Recirculation System, EGR/EFE Thermal Vacuum Switch, EGR/EFE Valve, Engine Oil Fill Cap, Fuel Fill Pipe and Cap, Fuel Fill Neck Restrictor, Fuel Receptacle, Fuel Sensor, Fuel Tank Pressure Control Valve (PCV), Fuel
    Temperature Sensor, Idle Air Control Valve, Intake Air Resonator, Intake Air Temperature Sensor, Intake Manifold, Manifold Air Pressure (MAP) Sensor, Mass Air Flow Sensor, Oil/Air Separator, Oxygen Sensor, PCV System, Positive Crankcase Ventilation Valve, Powertrain Control Module (PCM), Secondary Air Injection System, Throttle Body Assembly (MFI).

    OPTIONAL LUXURY COVERAGE: (must be purchased and indicated on the Application and the Identification Card)

    GPS NAVIGATION SYSTEMS- Navigation display unit, navigation control module, navigation system wiring harness.

    TV/VIDEO/ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEMS- LCD screen (10" or less), RF modulator, video cassette player with auxiliary inputs (No recording capability), digital video disc player, power converter.

    PHONE SYSTEMS- Charger/cradle, microphone, speakers, phone.

    INTERNET ACCESS SYSTEM- Power converter, satellite receiver, satellite dish or wireless receiver (Metropolitan areas only).

    OPTIONAL AIRBAG ELECTRONICS COVERAGE: (must be purchased and indicated on the Application and the Identification Card)

    AIRBAG ELECTRONICS – Airbag module, sensor(s), airbag cable/contact coil, clock spring, on/off switch.
  • mpillaiusmpillaius Posts: 10
    edited December 2012
    Had some good experience with the dealship in South Austin. The guy named Ilya, seems to be reasonable to was willing to go as far as he can to get me a deal. But seems the numbers does not still compell me to buy the Sonata. I am more interested in Altima, and numbers were my major motivating factor in going with Sonata. I really liked the drive feel of Sonata. but Altima is still good, and is a choice of the majority in the family.

    In the end I may not buy the Sonata with the figures I have now. But just wanted to let you folks know of the good expeirence I had.
  • dandydan9dandydan9 Posts: 20
    edited December 2012
    Just leased a 2013 Sonata GLS with Popular Package and carpeted floor mats in NJ:

    MSRP: $22,595 (plus whatever sticker is for Popular pkg + $100 for floor mats)
    Sign and Drive Lease 36/12k ($0.20/excess mile -- seems high but dealer stated this is the new standard for all makes)

    $2000 rebates ($1500 + $500 competitive lease)

    $220/month incl, all fees, taxes, registration, etc. -- no money down at all $0, zero, zilch

    Paid $220 for 1st. month and walked out the door

    What do you all think of that?
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    So for $7920.00- you got a brand new car for 3 years? Then if any of the 2016's are irrisistable you can dive in then.

    Sounds better than buying.

    (That is if the Mayans were wrong and today is NOT the end of the world as we know it)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    That's pretty good, very close to what I got on Black Friday for a similar 2013 Sonata except mine had a few more options e.g. self-dimming rear view mirror with garage remote, two sets of mats, mud guards, bumper protector, cargo net. The stuff was already on the car and they didn't charge me extra for it. I paid $47.80/month for 35 months (they made the first payment for me), 12k a year, nothing up front. They valued my trade, a 2007 Sonata GLS with extensive body damage, at $6000 (I thought that was quite good). So add that to my payments and it comes out to about $213/month. Oh, they had a special that weekend that got me 3 years of no-charge wheel/tire/glass repairs and paintless dent removal for free. I figure that will save me quite a bit over the lease, as I've always managed to scuff 1-2 alloys on curbs and collect a few door dings--especially since the Sonata has no trim strips to protect the doors.
  • I've purchased and leased and always prefer leasing over purchase.
    The only caveats are:

    1. Disposition fees (Honda has none, most other makes do)
    2. Returning the vehicle and dealing with wear and tear negotiations
    3. excess mileage and paying for that if you go over the allotment

    Other than that, yes leasing is the way to go IMO.

    Buying involves pouring money into a car after 3-5 years on an annual basis to keep it running, including, but not limited to:

    Tires, brakes, timing belts, motor mounts, a/c compressor, starters, batteries, etc.

    If the world ends today, it won't matter anyway.
  • Wow!

    I'll have to have you negotiate my next lease!

    I don't think those numbers are doable in NJ.
  • Drive in Altima felt really good.
    I liked the seats, etc.
    But Sonata numbers are s much better especially on base model.
    I am looking for lumbar adjustment and I do not get it in Altima unless I take SL which is top end.
    Also Sonata seats looked good compared to black plush look of sonata.

    I know you get other features in Altima SV like dual zone climate control, back up camera but I do not care much for them.

    I am not sure what the right price is for altima so I
  • The extended warranty from Warranty Direct is about $1100 for a plan ($100 ded per covered failure visit) called "10/100 PowerWrap Plus" that covers for 10 years/100,000 miles.

    I generally don't buy extended warranty for electronics. What's the general opinion on Extended Warranty for new cars ? Is it worth paying for it ? It comes to about $110 per year.

    Thanks in Advance.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    If you can get a 10-year b2b warranty FROM THE MANUFACTURER for around $1100, and either plan on keeping the car a long time or the warranty is transferable, that could be a good deal. Consider the cost of just one repair e.g. a computer. And a used car with a full warranty is worth more.

    But I stay away from 3rd-party warranties after a bad experience I had with one a few years ago. I bought a used Mazda MPV with what seemed like a great extended warranty. Cost about $1200 but covered everything. For awhile it was great, used it a couple of times, saved maybe $500 on repairs. Then the warranty company went belly-up... never got any kind of settlement out of it.
  • Thanks for your prompt reply.

    I spoke with the dealer. He said that Hyundai does not have its own extended warranty plan, unlike Ford. I need to do some research.

    I have few questions:
    Is it true that Hyundai does not have its own extended warranty program ?
    Is Warranty Direct a decent firm ? Are there any other reputable ones ?
    What happens, if these third-party firms go out of business ? Are they not backed by any organizations ?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    That's news to me, that Hyundai does not offer an extended warranty plan. They used to, because I was offered such a plan more than once by Hyundai dealers in the past. And as I recall it was a pretty good one, too--extended the b2b warranty to 10/100k and was transferable. But I passed on it. Good thing, too... my 2004 Elantra is nearly 9 years old and has never needed a major repair. And I still have some powertrain warranty left.
  • I Just leased a 2013 Sonata GLS with Popular Package + Remote starter & Floor Mats. With the $2000.00 of incentives + a down payment of $500 I was able to get my monthly payment down to $207. This includes taxes and all other fees. The term is for 36 months/12000year. I would like to think that I got a good deal. It seems it but I would like to hear some feedback from you
  • After spending 2 hours in one dealer and 4 hours in another dealer, I now have an offer accepted for Sonata GLS.
    The car is still in transit and they will make it ready on 29th.

    Some accessories came with car and I added some more.
    I think I added cargo mat, Wheel locks, window tint and pinstriping

    Here is the list of accessories.
    GLS + POP package + Window tint + Wheel locks + cargo net + floor mats + cargo mat + mud guard + ECM homelink + pinstriping + rear bumper protector

    I paid 19000 before title and tax
    I only got holiday cash 1500 + comp car 500 rebates
    OTD is 20400 (refused all extra warranties). Tax here in Texas is 6%.

    Invoice price is 22080 for this car with accessories (including destination fee, 21300 without destination fee)
    So I got the car for 3k less than invoice price.

    I know people got 18k deal (with other rebates like vet and new grad??) but is this good enough considering accessories included?
  • vinothrvinothr Posts: 2
    edited December 2012
    Anyone, I am trying to understand the best offer i could make and should take on a 2013 Sonata 2.4 Auto Limited. Please share your thoughts.

    True car (St Louis) quote is $24, 311
    Invoice $25,211

    The above does not include $1500 bonus cash, taxes etc.
  • saz25saz25 Posts: 152
    Hi
    Since you have all the numbers this is very simple.
    First of all ignore true car .

    Subtract the $1500 from the invoice. That's you offer. Stick to it. I usually make a round number. I'd say $23,700, maybe $23,800, but that's it.

    Also don't discuss the rebates and incentives and don't discuss how you arrived at that price. I just tell them this is my price.

    Also very important, insist on no documentation fee. If they insist as they may, tell them to adjust your offer down accordingly.

    Do this on the phone and call several dealers. Make it clear that you will buy today if they meet your price. Make sure you know the final totals before walking into the dealership.

    Good luck.
    Steve
  • Steve - do you mean this is 23800 OTD (including taxes)?
    When I was buying my Sonata GLS yesterday I heard conversations between a tough buyer and dealer around this number 24+some hundreds but I think it was OTD.
  • Thanks to posting in this forum earlier on that alerted me to advertised price of around $21500 for 2.4L 2013 Sonata Limited in NC. I checked Fritzmall.com in the DC area and they also have similar price. The price includes the $1500 Hyundai Finance rebate and $500 competitive rebate. If you don't qualify for these, then if will be $2000 more. I ended closing a deal in Greensboro, NC for $ 22450 Out-the-Door (tax, tag, & fees included). It came with cargo net, floor mat, wheel lock plus all standard features of the Limited. I financed $10000 at 0.9% for 36 months which I intend to pay off within the first month. Don't trust the price on cars.com, kbb.com etc. You can find something lower than the so called Fair Market Price which they claim is the average price people are paying for a similar car.
  • Wow - that is super deal!
    Did you have to work a lot to get this?
  • Steve,

    The quote through true car ($24347) is less than the invoice price ($25211).

    Not including the $1500 bonus cash, Is this the best price someone one could get for a 2013 Sonata 2.4L Auto Limited?.

    If not, what will be the best price to offer?.
  • No, that was a pretty straight forward deal. I corresponded by email with the Internet Sales at the dealership and then went in to make them an offer of $22450 OTD. They agreed but they did not have the color I wanted so they went and got one from surrounding dealers and notified me two days later to pick up the car. Everything went really smooth as far as car buying is concerned.
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