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  • ajfinoakajfinoak Posts: 58
    I am also considering the Elantra GT as an option as I want a hatchback. Also considering the Veloster as I have another 4 door car and like that the Veloster is so different (and also has the 10 year warranty). It has a more premium and solid feel than the others. Also looking at the Ford Focus which I ruled out due to the DSG troublesome tranny- Ford still has not resolved. Drove the Mazda 3 Skyactiv which I liked although, it seems cheaper inside than the Hyundai's and if you drive on hills (I live in SF) the new auto is very sluggish to downshift which helps economy but results in harder acceleration to get it to a jerky downshift. Hoping the Elantra GT comes out soon so I can at least see one. Too bad Honda has nothing interesting to offer- I have had many Hondas and Acuras.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    Ok, a camera on the back? For what. I guess I am not up on the new technology and what is a panoramic sun roof? So wiht the sport tuned suspension it's better around curves etc? I don't really need alot of room in the back because normally there will only be one person in the car or two. I really like the looks of the GT
    I think the maza 3 skyactiv is a little more than the elantra but it's a nice looking car also.
    sorry for all the questions, but you seem like you have done a lot of research.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    Backup camera: to avoid hitting something/someone behind you. May not be too long before they are standard in all new cars.

    Panoramic sun roof: think "really big sunroof", as in covering most of the roof. Meh.

    I don't know that real-world price on the Skyactiv is much more than the Elantra's. There aren't the huge discounts on the mainstream Hyundais any more, like there used to be. Since you don't need a lot of back seat room, might be worth checking out the Mazda3. Also have you driven the Focus? Back seat isn't very roomy, but has very nice blend of ride and handling, and price is helped by incentives.
  • chickraechickrae Posts: 44
    Ok that makes sense. It would be interesting to see that camera in action. I know the dealership I am going through, if I get the elantra, offers a 1,200 discount to finance through them. The Gls I was looking it is 17,335 before taxes and with that discount. My 2001 ford mustang gt they are giving 7,000 in trade. I think the Mazda 3 skyactiv that I saw online was 19,245 so it might be a little more in my area. ((Utah)

    No I haven't driven a focus. Not quite sure I like the looks of it. I guess that's why I keep looking at the Elantra. I just love the style of that car. The xm radio is a plus too.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,707
    When I think of sunroof, I think "terrarium".

    The thing is, unless it opens fully, like a window (Moonroofs are a joke), it's not actually anything more than yet another windshield to look out of. Except that most of them are so far back that you'd have to look sideways as a driver to see anything. (ie - if it was open, you'd at least feel the wind)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    I like the glass moonroofs that tilt up or slide all the way into the roof. Provides a little of that convertible feel, also the tilt feature helps keep the interior cooler on sunny days. But I can do without the "panoramic" moonroofs.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Hey, instead of talking about greenhouses you can drive one. I like sunroofs, but I'm not sure I like that panoramic thing, and I'm wondering if I can get it with everything except the rays...
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,707
    I used to own a truck that had a huge oversized glass moonroof, and for the size of the cab, it was equivalent to a panoramic sunroof. the top three inches of the interior were consistently 15-20 degrees hotter than the rest of the car, even with the AC on full.

    I'd end up with heat fatigue in the summer from a roasted head unless I pointed all of the vents at the roof.

    Really bad idea.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    I'm wondering how it would handle the weight of several inches of heavy wet snow and a stiff snow brush myself.
  • bug4bug4 Posts: 370
    Now that the 2012 Passat starts at under $20,000, I think it should be added to this discussion. Although it's not my dream car by any stretch, I just purchased one after looking at everything else on the market. It broke my string of three straight Accords. I'm still bothered by the exterior design, but I'm happy with the car...and the price :)
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,676
    This is a general "help me choose" discussion for sedans, regardless of price. And, we have a limit to the number of vehicles we can list in the header, and those are generally selected based on traffic/interest in those vehicles site-wide.

    However, you are most welcome to discuss the Passat here, and any other sedan that strikes your fancy.

    Need help navigating? kirstie_h@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • I'm leaning towards the Mazda 3 hatchback, but the biggest drawback for me is the rear seat leg room - it wouldn't be a dedicated family car, but it would be nice to get my kids to drive in the back on occasion - these are 5'10" teenagers.

    Does the Elantra offer much more legroom - or is there any other car in the Mazda 3's class that offers a better back seat option?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    edited March 2012
    I am 5'9-1/2" and found the leg room fine in the Mazda3 for occasional use. I wouldn't want to ride more than a couple of hours back there, but I did not feel cramped.

    For compact hatches, I think the cars with the most rear legroom (based on my "sit" tests) are the Prius (much different kind of car than the Mazda3 of course), followed by the Elantra (based on the sedan, since the Elantra GT isn't available yet), Impreza, and Golf. The Versa hatch, subcompact in length, has tons of rear legroom also--maybe the roomiest of any of these cars. But it's a class down from the Mazda3--cheaper though! Forte hatch has pretty good rear leg room also, but for the money I'd rather go with the Elantra.

    FWIW, the current Elantra hatch, the Touring, has limo-like rear leg room, but it's an old design and not nearly as nice and economical as the new Elantra.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,897
    The Golf has WAY more backseat room than the mazda3. I'm 6'5" and could still have an adult sit behind me.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • Hi,
    I've drove the Optima and was impressed with the room inside - it actually borders on being too big imo. biggest drawback for me was the dead feel in the stearing that Edmunds mentions. For the Sonata - Edumunds doesn't mention this con (dead stearing wheel). Has any compared the two - I have a hard time believing there would be a difference. I prefer the Optima style and their base packages are less confusing than the Sonata.

    Is it worth test driving the Sonata? or are we really talking the same car?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    If you don't like the steering in the Optima, I doubt you'll like it in the Sonata. The Optima is supposed to have more feel of the road than the Sonata.
  • bug4bug4 Posts: 370
    You need to try the VW Golf/GTI. I've ridden in a GTI, often, and the back seat is suprisingly large! Plus, the thing drives GREAT and the interior quality is awesome!
  • according to Edmunds, the gti has less room in the back seat than the Mazda 3 - it have a lower gas milege rating and it cost more. at least that's what I found in comparing the two.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    edited March 2012
    Comparing MT hatches to MT hatches, the Golf (2 door) costs less than the lowest-priced Mazda3 hatch (4 door). The GTI is the top Golf trim, so you need to compare it to a comparable Mazda3s trim. And the Mazda3s does not get the same great fuel economy as the Mazda3i with Skyactiv. Also the GTI has 200 hp--topped in the Mazda3 only by the Mazdaspeed3.

    I recently did a sit-test in the Mazda3 and Golf within a few minutes of each other and found the Golf to have more rear-seat leg room, with the driver's seat adjusted comfortably for me (5'9-1/2").
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,897
    I said the same thing as Backy. The Golf/GTI has way more room, both in front and back. And, yes, you'd have to compare GTI to mazdaspeed3 and Golf to Mazda3s.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

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