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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Exactly; unfortunately for Kia my folks share my (lack of) enthusiasm for the looks of the Amanti. The Optima looks nice, on the other hand.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,150
    CPO 330i ('04-'05 can be had in the mid-$20k range with low miles, high 20s gas mileage, quite comfy and quiet)
    CPO S60 2.5T (heck, you can typically get a leftover or demo model for the mid-$20k range, again high 20s mpg on the highway, and quiet, also FWD if bad weather is a concern and you don't want to deal with swapping to winter tires like you would with the bimmer. A CPO one with low miles should dip down in the high teens for price.)

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • Yeah, a fully loaded Avalon probably wouldn't work. But what about the Avalon with touring trim? It's pretty well equipped already, with features like leather seats, auto climatic control, sport-tuned suspension. And according to the Toyota's website, it's listed with a MSRP of 29,325, which is under the 30k requirement you mentioned. Also, assuming you can get the car for around the invoice, that's another $1000~$2000 off. I am by no means mindlessly pushing for the Toyota (Actually I prefer the Accord overall, which is not an option, as you said), but based on your(parents') criteria, the Avalon just seems to be really, really a good fit!
    :D

    Also, how long do your parents plan to keep the car? If resale value is important, going domestic is probably not a very good idea (It's the truth, no offense against domestic vehicles). :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    This would be a 5-10 year vehicle, I'd think, so resale isn't terribly important, although it's still worth thinking about. The thing to remember is that if you spend less upfront, you lose less.

    Say in 5 years a $25k Avalon is worth $10k and a $20k Taurus is worth $5k. The same amount has been lost in resale.

    I'll mention the Avalon Touring to them. My dad drove some friends' Avalon Limited not too long ago and was very impressed with it.
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,163
    thegraduate, perhaps you should have your parents test drive the Malibu 2LT for about $23,000. It has everything that you desribed. Incredible good looks-arguably the best of any midsize or fullsize, inside and out. Power (258 bhp, zero to 60 in 6.5 seconds). Extremely quiet--no wind or road noise. Great sound system (210 watts, 2-subwoofers, 8 speakers, 6-disk CD changer, XM satellite radio). All the safety features (ABS, traction control, stability track) including OnStar turn-by-turn navigation system with built-in hands free cell phone.

    One more thing, if they want leather instead of the suede on the 2LT they can install after-market leather which is much more supple than anything factory installed. That's what we did with our LS and got a $40K look all for under $21K.

    If they are not smitten with the Malibu, then they are not yet ready to buy. By the way, I drive an Avalon XLS and it does not compare with the Malibu 2LT or LTZ.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    If they aren't smitten over the new Malibu then they aren't ready to buy...

    I haven't been in the new Malibu, but one pull of the exterior door-handle told me the quality didn't match that of the Honda (the handle on every one I pulled wiggled around up and down, as if made of rubber). Unfortunately Honda doesn't offer what they're looking for at the moment. We're all in Hondas right now, so I guess you could say we're extra sensitve to build quality, as we're used to the best in the business for under $25k (Accords for me and a Civic for them)

    They haven't given up on a Malibu, but the one quote I got from a local dealer was over $28k BEFORE taxes and fees for an LTZ.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    perhaps you should have your parents test drive the Malibu 2LT for about $23,000. It has everything that you desribed. Incredible good looks-arguably the best of any midsize or fullsize, inside and out

    That is not my impression of the car. It think it's ugly compared to the '08' Honda. And the quality of the materials were just OK. We all have different yardsticks in measurments of cars. One persons luxury car is another persons bottom feeder.
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,163
    That is not my impression of the car. It think it's ugly compared to the '08' Honda. And the quality of the materials were just OK. We all have different yardsticks in measurments of cars. One persons luxury car is another persons bottom feeder.

    kds --- I think your views and opinions are in the minority and do not describe the 2008 Malibu. The quality of the interior materials, fit and finish, and ergonomics are best in class and even equal to those described as entry level luxury sedans.

    the graduate -- Maybe it's time to begin changing your perceptions of the car a little more. The door handles are firm and competent even more so than the Volvo S70 that we traded in and my Avalon XLS.
  • tomsr1tomsr1 Posts: 130
    If I did not care about $3.50 gas I would have gotten the Si and have some fun.As it is I got the Civic sedan because I had to please the wife.My first tank got
    36 mpg which is comparable to the Fit which I like except for the lack of power and it lacks storage space for CDs,etc.The possible mistake I made was getting the extended warranty to 120k miles.I will probably never have to use it but when the basic warranty is up I'll have no reason get rid of it.I had considered a prius but
    lack of power bored me. At least now if I want to waste gas I can use all 140
    horses at my leisure. ;) ;)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I'm not going to change my perceptions until IT does. The Ford Taurus actually did, giving me a positive impression of Ford. The Malibu, so far, hasn't (pull out your handle with the door locked, and you'll see the handle wiggles up and down easily).

    Bad first impression of what might be a great car otherwise.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    If I did not care about $3.50 gas I would have gotten the Si and have some fun.As it is I got the Civic sedan because I had to please the wife.

    You know the Si comes in sedan form, don't ya? :)
  • ronsmith38ronsmith38 Posts: 228
    There are some great deals on Taurus or Sable out there:
    http://www.dalejarrettford.com/ad/DaleJarrettAd.pdf
    I bought a Sable over a month ago, and think I got a good deal:
    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f166ea9.f166af7/23
    I have less than 500 miles on it, but I really like it so far.
  • hklhkl Posts: 9
    Don't feel bad, I did the same. It is for my daughter, so I don't want her to saddle with the premium gas consumption of the Si. I drove a 98 Prelude, but my son bought it from me. After a month of driving, the EX (coupe) is not so bad, as I am getting used to it. My daughter will never know what she is missing, since she didn't drive the Prelude.The EX is a 5-speed manual. I go back to my Accord V6.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Yes indeed. I saw an ad in the Minneapolis StarTribune yesterday for new '08 Taurii for just under $19k, and slightly used '08s for just under $17k. That is a lot of car for the money, especially considering what you would pay for a car like the Avalon with comparable power and room.
  • skyblu88skyblu88 Posts: 3
    I am getting ready to purchase a Mazda3 5-door.

    Does anyone know if it is worth spending the $14.00 for the CR vehicle price report from CR, or is the same info available here on Edmunds?

    Thanks!

    :confuse:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Mazda 3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

    Try poking around this board, asking whatever questions you have; you might find some answers! It'll let you know what others are paying.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    Grad.

    Tell them to test drive an Azera and see it they like it. One of my buddies has one and it's a fantastic car. '07 Limited w. Ultimate pkg. Sticker was $31K+. He paid $25700 last April + $189 doc fee + TTL. Great car, great highway cruiser.

    Maybe they'll like it, maybe they won't...but they won't know unless they test drive it.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I've mentioned it to them more than once. My folks are open to nearly everything except Chrysler products (burned by them twice). At the moment, a local Cadillac dealer has two Cadillac DTS sedans, 2007 models, both around 15,000 miles, for $28,990. That, compared with a Toyota Avalon XLS quote I received for $29,598 + $399 doc + tax ($1400 or so) makes the Cadillac look like quite a deal.

    Trust me, nothing too much is ruled out yet, except the VeraCruz.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Sure a used Caddy with 15K miles makes a new Avalon look like a great deal. Any user car makes any new car the deal of the century. I would soon as drive around in a new Avalon than a used DTS :blush.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The Avalon XLS was still more expensive than the Caddy... that's the problem. They were trying to stay under $30k, and that cant do that without stepping into a base model XL.
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