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Nissan 350Z

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  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    There is also a lot of speculation that the RE040s track with the road crown, seeming to pull to the sides. jhh1s problem may be exagerrated by the tires. Very curious.

    JW
  • abc44abc44 Posts: 11
    To Z owners,

    For this beautiful car, how do you prevent the bumpers being scratched by other cars in the parking lot? Based on the packed parking lot at my work place and the shopping centers, I am concerned about how I maintain my Z (in the near future) in perfect conditions.

    Thanks.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    & walk further.

    JW
  • abc44abc44 Posts: 11
    Hello,

    I wonder what's the big deal of using differently sized tires for the Z? This makes maintainance cost higher.

    Thanks.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Many sports cars include bigger tires in back. It's another way to tune the handling of the car towards understeer or oversteer. I believe it tends to be done on powerful sports cars to control a bit of the snap power oversteer problems that can occur on these cars. Basically, a little more meat on back tends to reduce their tendency to swap ends when on the gas exiting corners.

    I does prevent front-to-back tire rotation which makes tires wear a little faster, but then, it saves in tire rotation costs. It also prevents having a single full-size spare, but spares are going the way of buggy whips. I'd guess that in the overall scheme of tire life and costs for a high-perf sports car like the Z, it isn't very significant.

    Don't discount the cool factor. Porsches have typically come with big differences between front and rear tire sizes and so it became stylish. Really big rear tires become associated with really powerful engines, so buyers want them just for bragging rights.

    - Mark
  • abc44abc44 Posts: 11
    Thanks, MarkJenn, for offering the answer on tires. I read the owner's manual and learned that the tire pressure readout would work when the speed is over 20mph. So, I wonder if the actual gauge is charged by the kinetic energy (rotational), and subsequently transmits signals out to a receiver nearby. Otherwise, I couldn't figure out how it is done.
  • snaphooksnaphook Posts: 130
    I'd be interested in knowing how they work also. It might have something to do with the frequency of the road noise or the nature of the vibrations transmitted to the suspension that might be a function of tire pressure, these are total guesses but it would explain why the car has to be moving.
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    Merry Christmas!

  • I saw a 350Z zipping pass traffic on Monday, I didn't get to gaze at it as it was going pretty fast, but it looks nice from what I did see.
  • MINI Coopers have tire pressure sensors with certain tire/wheel combo's - If I remember correctly it senses the difference in tire circumference in a tire that's low.
  • Fell in love with the a new G35 last week...then my son said "Mom, look at the new Z"...so I did.
    OMG! Local dealer has a Redline Touring...says he'll sell for MSRP ($35,700). I think this is too high. What do you all think? Also, what should I get if I trade in my 2001 Jetta GLS 1.8T with 26,000 miles? I put a huge dp on it, so I am not upside down on this car...and it is in immaculate condition...has every option with no problems (love this car, too). Guess I just got the Z fever; but shhh, don't tell the dealer. LOL
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    nice cars, hunh? From your questions, you may be new to Edmund's, so you should know there is a wealth of information here ...

    1) if you do a search, you'll find on this topic and on the "New" Nissan site, that MSRP is pretty much normal for the Z at this point. It's still a new, high demand car. You might do better financially if you wait for six months or so because inventories are building rapidly.

    2) Your Jetta should fetch a very good price. You can find out what it might be by searching under "Used" and then select the car and add the options as you own it. This will give you a dealer retail, a private retail, and a trade in value.

    3) Ihave to add this, sorry: you may love the redline .... it's the one I want, too. But it's not a very good financial decision, y'know. You've already eaten the two worst years of depreciation, it's now only worth about 2/3 of what it cost, and it has a lot of life left. I mention this because you say you like it.

    Keep us posted!
    JW
  • Also, what should I get if I trade in my 2001 Jetta GLS 1.8T with 26,000 miles?

    I'm in the same boat (though I loathe my Jetta) - pretty much the same car too. Sell it privately. Do not attempt a trade-in unless they're willing to go over 14.5k.

    KBB on my trade in San Diego (at 25.3k miles, 6 disc, wolfsburg, sunroof, 28mm neuspeed swaybar) is 12,965. KBB claims 14.9k for private sale. Edmunds pegs it at 13k and 14.5 private party.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    blueguy, I was always interested in the discrepancies, too. A few months back Edmund's did an article to explain: KBB gives the "listing" price; Edmund's uses sale prices.

    No idea if this is correct, but it helps with the perspective. On Ebay, Zs that are clearly used (one had 4000 miles) are still being listed at MSRP and above ... of course the bids aren't coming anywhere near the listing, or even the very high reserves. I wonder if any of them are going for bid.

    JW
  • I found it odd that for once KBB and Edmunds were quite close in prices. The first time I've ever seen that. I sold a 91 Stanza for 2k and Edmunds claimed I could only get $800 for it. Sorta made me distrustful of their TMV ratings...

    I sat in a Z a few days ago when I was at a nissan dealership helping my bro-in-law look at a Murano. I've forgotten how low one sits in a z-car. Good grief! From inside though the car's exterior feels small. Weird considering how large the car appears from outside.

    BTW, the Murano's CVT was pretty darn sweet. Nice vehicle too. The Murano has better interior materials than any other Nissan or the Infiniti G35 coupe/sedan. Strange.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Sheehy Nissan is advertising in the Washington Post 350Z Touring's for $500 under MSRP. My Sheehy Honda dealer says they will go down to at least $1k under MSRP (I bought an S2000 for $880 under MSRP in 2001 when everyone else was at or above MSRP).

    I suspect that 350Z's under MSRP will become more and more commonplace, especially in northern climates in the winter.
  • Hi...thanks for all your help with my dilemna. Spent half the day at the Nissan dealer...sent my husband in for tough negotiations. They wouldn't budge off MSRP ("nobody in this area (NJ) is selling below MSRP"), and wanted to give me $13,000 for my 2001 Jetta 1.8T (with leather pkg, sport pkg, moonroof, 6 CD changer, low miles...and they agreed it is in NEW CAR condition). Based on info from this site, that deal would have worked out to somewhere around $6,000-7,000 profit for them...just how much do they need to make on a deal??? Needless to say, I won't be driving the Redline anytime soon. And so far, that theory about prices dropping in the northern climates in winter isn't panning out. However, Washington, DC is within a reasonable distance... :)
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    The Z seat position actually reminded me of a 356 Porsche a friend of mine once had, like you're looking out over the cowl. I'd like to try one on a track or in autoX to see if it really makes you feel more a part of the car like it did in the Porsche.

    Off topic: can you describe the feeling of the CVT? Whenever I've read a description, it's sounded as if it would be weird -- a constant acceleration force.

    And i'm interested in what makes the Murano interior materials better for you? I've never had a problem with the Z, but I understand many people feel it's 'down market.' What makes the improvement notable?

    JW
  • I haven't driven the Murano CVT but have driven an Audi A4 1.8t and 3,0 CVT, a Mini Cooper CVT and a Toyota Prius CVT. CVT's are interesting, for some reason car makers program their U.S. CVT's to act like they have gears especially in manual mode - not the Toyota but the Mini and Audi have 6 artificial gears. If you leave them in drive they act like a CVT should for the most part - they have 2 modes economy and performance. If you are just putting around town they are in economy mode - the engine stays at a constant RPM that is the most efficient economically. If you need performance it switches to performance RPM typically the maximum torque/ HP RPM for the particular engine and the RPM stays there for as long as you want it. The CVT versions are typically just as fast as their manual counterparts, sometimes faster and get just as good gas mileage as a manual.

    The CVT's are much more responsive than a conventional automatic - very good response from a standing start, no slushy, sluggish take off that you find in a conventional 4 cyl automatic configuration - instant acceleration from a standstill. The most dramatic comparison was the A4 1.8t with conventional tiptronic automatic and then A4 1.8t CVT. The tipronic A4 was typically a little slow off the line where the CVT felt like a manual transmission A4 1.8t performance wise. What's really nice is the power is always there no shifting gears or delayed downshift reactions - instant response.

    The Mini Cooper CVT is the quickest Mini on an autoX course, it beats a manual Mini or Mini S every time with the same driver because all the driver has to do is mash the gas when max power is needed - instant response.

    The Prius was a very nice drive - good response, nice performance, the CVT in the Prius was transparent as was all the Hybrid technology going on behind the scenes - just step on the gas pedal and go - very impressive.
  • Off topic: can you describe the feeling of the CVT? Whenever I've read a description, it's sounded as if it would be weird -- a constant acceleration force.

    It's quite disconcerting at first as you expect the Murano to shift gears. Rather than shifting the car just maintains say 3000 RPM while you accelerate. Getting onto the freeway I mashed the accelerator and the car jumped to 4k rpm, staying there until I hit about 70. It's almost unnerving; eventually though you get used to the lack of shifting action. Quite nice really.

    And i'm interested in what makes the Murano interior materials better for you? I've never had a problem with the Z, but I understand many people feel it's 'down market.' What makes the improvement notable?

    The Murano has real aluminum trim everywhere. The majority of dash and door materials you touch are rubbery soft-touch types or leather-like. All of the Murano's various containers and such open with a smooth, silicone dampened raising and lowering motion (reminds me of VW). None of the console materials feel flimsy or cheap like most of Nissan's other recent cars.

    I'm not an SUV guy but I really liked my time in the Murano.
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