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Nissan 350Z

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  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Well, y'all, I am now an official member of the 350Z club! Decided it was the most fun, best value, and will be a great beach car. I would almost be scared of taking the Volvo to the beach, as a large, expensive car.

    I went back to the dealer today and took the car out on the Beltway, to see if I'd be nervous with big trucks whooshing past. And I wasn't, at all. I like that the Z is heavier than the usual sports car, it felt stable and rigid and not blown around at all. Handling is precision-sharp.

    I asked the sales guy about the tire feathering issue, and he said it was because the alignment of the 2003 versions had been set to the way the Japanese drive, on the left with the driver on the right. Um, frankly, that sounds like nonsense to me, but whatever. Anyway he said the alignments specs were changed by mid-2004, and the 2005 shouldn't have any problems along those lines.

    I feel like I got a good deal. Original sticker was somewhat north of $40,000. Current asking price for this was $34,500. (Current 2006s are in low 40's) I offered $32. He came down to $33,500 plus the dealership has a program where they give you two sets of tires, at 25 and 50k miles. So that's not bad, as long as the tires make it to 25,000 miles each time! I asked what would happen if they don't, and he said as long as I do all the maintenance per the book, they would replace earlier if needed.

    Used Touring models with some miles on them have asking prices of typically around $30 - $32k, sometimes even more, so I feel like this is fair enough.

    Anyway, I'll re-evaluate after I've had it for a couple years, might trade up to a Volvo then if we find we really wish for a larger convertible very often, but I think I'll be very happy with this for quite some time.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,667
    congrats, biancar.

    I think you did fine, too. Heck, I said $33k would be my trigger point, right? ;)

    i just love the various ridiculous explanations I've heard salespeople give on the tire issue.

    I think there is a good chance you'll love this car for a long time. :) enjoy!

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • zztop3zztop3 Posts: 23
    Sorry but I could not resist posting and once again, I am reminded that a woman's mind works totally differently than a man's.
    Please don't interpret that as being sexist in any way as it is not. It is just fact.

    My wife always tells me that the way each sex's brains are 'wired' will always be a mystery to each of us.

    You gotta admit that your logic is very,very funny.
    Let me get this straight cause I have to admit that I am laughing my butt off after reading your post:)

    You bought the second most popular Sports car as judged by being the number 2 seller behind the Corvette in the Sport Car Coupe category (sales results for all production cars are on automobear.com) to take to the BEACH?

    (BTW, Exotics are Not included in the sales figures and that includes the gamut of the Dodge Viper to the Ferrari's.)

    And you bought tbis beach car where a 350Z at the Beach is "steal me" bait because you were afraid of "I would almost be scared of taking the Volvo to the beach, as a large, expensive car"?

    Is this some private beach at your second home or a public beach?
    I ask because there is no way I would leave a Z at a public beach which is full of people who will steal it over that Volvo in a hearbeat.

    Don't misunderstand. The Volvo C70,although underpowered, is a car I would love to own as it is a very nice car.
    It also would be the car I would choose for those long road trips particurly since the 350Z is very tiring after a few hours of driving it.

    If you wanted a convertible then why didn't you look at the Nisssan 350Z Roadster?

    Well, what is done is done and the Z is in your driveway now.
    I KNOW you will love your new Beach car. It is a blast.

    Just curious. Why didn't you look at the G35?

    You gotta admit that your logic is very,very funny:)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,667
    ummmmm.... it IS a roadster, zztop.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Thanks, gbrozen, for pointing that out. ZZtop3, I'm laughing myself at your post! What I bought was indeed, a roadster. A fun convertible that really put the grin on my face from the first test-drive.

    We have a second home in Nags Head, North Carolina. The Outer Banks area is not exactly a bed of crime; it's a family-oriented area where people typically rent homes by the week (although ours is just for our use, not rented out). The 350Z roadster seems a perfect car to cruise along the beach road, top down, with the ocean to the east and the beautiful Albermarle and Croatan Sounds to the west. I can imagine driving it all over the back roads in the area, having fun, maybe with the top down on a moonlit night, listening to soft jazz on the excellent stereo.

    The Volvo is certainly a very nice car. But for $45,000, plus tax, plus fees, etc., I really wanted more zing. I wanted more than "nice car." After seeing all the gadgetry, there was something about it that just seemed, well, soccer mom having an outing. It lacked spice. Lacked that quickness of acceleration and handling. Lacked that ephemeral sex appeal that the Z-car has, in spades.

    When I said I would be afraid to take the Volvo to the beach, I wasn't even thinking crime. I was thinking sandy feet, salt water stained beach towels, people in wet bathing suits. Somehow the Z seems like a car that can take life as it comes. The Volvo seems like, "ooh, don't hurt me, don't put those messy feet anywhere near me."

    Buying a car is as much about emotion as it about logic, and the Volvo just didn't make my heart beat faster. The Z did.

    And it didn't hurt at all that the Z I bought, due to the unusual circumstance of finding a left-over 2005, was around $12,000 cheaper than the Volvo. Best of both worlds, a new car at a used car price.
    It appealed to my heart; it appealed to my wallet.

    So if that's woman's logic, well, so be it. I think there are plenty of men who understand what I'm talking about here.
  • jd1966jd1966 Posts: 3
    I picked up a Silverstone 2005 350Z 35th Anniversary Coupe on Friday night and am loving it... Had only 4,400 miles on it and even had the Nav in it.
    Now I need to learn all there is about Z ownership. Any suggestions on clubs, events, etc... would be appreciated.
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Congrats to you! Is that with a black or a frost interior? Where in the country are you?

    Most important, are you having fun yet? ;)

    If you do a google search for "3350z groups" you might find something. I've found quite a few on-line forums just searching with "350z."
  • zztop3zztop3 Posts: 23
    I am glad you got the roadster but if you are like most Z owner's, you are still going to be a fanatic about dirt:)

    Enjoy.

    Read this article on the automotive turkeys of this year and it will make you feel even better.
    The #1 Winner(loser?) was the Volvo.

    The article is a bit wierd to navigate but you will get to the page on each car in the list.

    http://biz.yahoo.com/weekend/carturkey_1.html
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    "I am glad you got the roadster but if you are like most Z owner's, you are still going to be a fanatic about dirt:)"

    How'dja guess?? I already have a chamois tucked in one of the little cubbies behind the seats to wipe off the fingerprints on the trunk...so I'm inconsistent I guess! ;)

    Going off to read the article you posted...
  • jd1966jd1966 Posts: 3
    It has the Two-Tone Black & Tan interior - very nice. And yes I'm loving it... I have an Infinity G35x as my other car and this is my weekend / summer toy. I live in Massachusetts and am looking forward to some good rides to the Cape & Newport.
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Has anyone replaced the standard auto-dimming mirror with the one that has an integrated compass in it? If so, did you do it yourself or have the dealer do it?
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Just have to post again to say I'm LOVING my new roadster! It's so much fun to drive, even going for groceries gives me a thrill.

    Couple days ago I went to meet a friend for drinks at an outdoor cafe. The car was parked just in front of the seating area. While we were there, a woman was walking across the street towards us. She stopped and grabbed her friend's arm and pointed excitedly at my car. When they got closer, she got out her little digital camera and took a picture of it!

    That has NEVER happened, to my knowledge, with any other car I've had!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,667
    hehe. glad you're having fun with it, biancar.

    yeah, i also never had a car anyone took much notice of until i had my Z. People would stop me in parking lots all the time to share compliments.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • badoubadou Posts: 1
    Has anyone had service done yet for the Z recall due to the fuel filler hose that may crack and result in fuel leakage and could possibly cause a fire? I received a letter from Nissan HQ a few weeks ago, called my dealer (in NJ) and they don't have the parts yet? They are supposed to replace the fuel filler and vapor hoses. This is my second recall on my 2003 Z. First one regarding tire feathering. Still love the car (despite stereo) but recalls making me nervous. Although a recall to fix is better than leaving the problem.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,667
    recalls shouldn't make you nervous. Its the potential problems you DON'T know about that AREN'T recalled that you should worry about. ;)

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • dat2dat2 Posts: 242
    I also live in the DC area, and recently drove to Wilmington to start a tour of the outer banks area. It was such a great time. I have an 05 touring (coupe) and could imagine having the roadster would just make it even better. There are some stretches near Cape Hatteras where you can really open it up, on a quiet day when no one is looking. I got up to 115 then stopped. Would have been fun to go further but I guess I'm getting old. Anyway, carry on with your great roadster driving...along some of the nicest coastline in north america! Also, the 2 free sets of tires is a big deal, since a set of new tires for the Z is at least a grand, probably more like 1200. They can't cheap out on you since there are so few models that fit the Z (with the staggered fr and rear sizes). So I would say you got a heck of a deal on a leftover 05 roadster :shades:
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Thanks. I just hope the tires last until 25,000 miles! They won't replace them before then.

    I think it was a great deal, too, and am continuing to enjoy every minute of driving! Drove down to the OBX a few days ago and mileage on the highway was much, much better than around town. Made it from Washington to Nags Head on one tank of gas and still had, according to the trip computer, slightly over 100 miles to go until empty. Avg was around 23 mpg.

    Has anyone else started buying convenience accessories? I ordered, from a place called "Courtesy Nissan" that I found on line, a replacement cupholder that's pretty neat. It is a double cup-holder with a sort of handle for the base that fits into the coin compartment thing. (You have to take out the little coin holder, of course.) It works pretty well. I've taken out the useless cupholders that came in the car and just put them aside to use that whole console space for storage.

    Also I bought the Z over-the-back-of-the-seat mesh storage bag, and that's quite useful. All together, it was amazing how much stuff I could put into that little car for my trip down here. The trunk holds more than you might think, since it's all so accessible.

    Anyway, practicality aside, am loving driving this thing. The zoom-zoom and grins factor are certainly off the scale!
  • dat2dat2 Posts: 242
    I have ordered from courtesy, they are great! I ordered the ratcheting NISMO oil cap, which is really sweet, and the JWT popcharger, which changes the character of the car a little, you here more intake than exhaust, compared to stock. Of course with the roadster, it may be a nice mix since you are probably getting a lot of that sweet exh sound!
  • dbrasherdbrasher Posts: 17
    I just done a buy back. I had the 2004 touring model. It had 25,000 when i dropped it off. I was on my third set of front tires at 20,000. They have an extended warrenty till 36,000 for that problem. I live in California and I found a free lemon law attorney on the internet that took my case. You have to have all your records to do so. Loved the car other than tire and brakes.
  • dbrasherdbrasher Posts: 17
    there is an extended warrenty till 36,000 on the front tire problem. I had the 2004 and Nissan just bought it back
  • dbrasherdbrasher Posts: 17
    my 2004 come with Bridgestone tires.
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    They may have quit using those. I have Michelin Sport Pilots.

    Seems like the coupe had more problems than the roadster. From what I can tell, from build dates of mid-2004 onwards people aren't having those tire problems.
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    Has anyone here who owns a Roadster replaced the standard mirror with the one that also includes a compass? I wanted to buy it but the parts guy at the dealer said the catalog indicated it was for coupe only. He didn't know why, said that maybe the latch and the electronics for the top opening and closing might get in the way of the wiring needed for the compass display.

    Can anyone confirm that, or has anyone been able to do that replacement?
  • kvetkvet Posts: 5
    Have put premium (91)in my 05 Z for one yr. Put regular (87) in by mistake for one tank and then out of fear put in medium (89) running now. Have had no change in engine performance. Is premium (91) really necessary or a hoax?
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    It's necessary, but one tank of a lower-octane gas is not going to make a noticeable difference. Over time, it would.

    When your current tank gets down to about half full, fill it up again with 91.

    You've paid a lot of money for a high-perfomance car. Don't cheap out on the gas. If the difference between lower octane and premium is .20, and you put in 15 gallons at a time, you've paid $3.00 more for putting in what the manufacturer says is necessary. If you can't afford that, then do yourself a favor and trade in the car for something that runs on regular.
  • kvetkvet Posts: 5
    Biancar;
    Thanks for the advice. Lots of mixed msgs on google ("do I need premium") At age 74 I'm not cheap just frugal and I really can afford the Z.
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    I hear you, I think of myself as "frugal" too.

    Except for buying my cars and my jewelry...

    We should start an "older, wiser, and still having fun" club; I'm a young retiree myself. ;)
  • kvetkvet Posts: 5
    Retired? Hah! I'm sitting here working my "buns off". I'm only 74 and my wife has lots of bad habits.
  • biancarbiancar Posts: 913
    ... my wife has lots of bad habits.

    Including you? ;)

    (P.S. - do you let your wife drive your car? So far I've only let my husband drive it once. Mostly he gets the Maxima. Life is good. :shades: )
  • kvetkvet Posts: 5
    After 48 years of "Wedded Bliss"? I let her do most anything she wants. She doesn't like the small confining space of a Z so she drives her Jeep Cherokee.
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