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Mazda6 Sedan

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  • Mazda will have a really fantastic lineup if they update the Protege to the "3" and make it based on the Focus platform,

    The 6 sedan, hatch, and wagon- although I doubt the hatch will make it over here *sniff sniff*

    The Miata (which they should rename the MX-5, as it is called everywhere else)

    The MPV, and the Tribute

    I'm quite impressed...Mazdas have always been good little cars, light years better than Mitsubishis in my opinion.

    And, milleniaman1, I'm sure there will be wood-grain and leather options on the new 6.
  • Mazda has said that it will be bringing the hatch over here to the US! I am first in line! Things are really starting to heat up over at Mazda.

    Go Mazda!!!

    Zoom Zoom Zoom

    P.S.- I highly doubt wood grain trim, it would ruin the interior IMO. I love, love, love the brushed alluminum inside of the 6, very upscale and sporty.
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    is it really brushed aluminum or is it 80's style boombox plastic?
  • I know Mazda is not a luxurious car company...I do not consider my old Protege or 626 to be a luxury car...but the Millenia was designed from the ground up to be a Luxury car. If you anyone doesn't already know...Mazda was going to start its own Luxury division called Amati...the Millenia was going to be the flagship sedan. The new Mazda 6 does not have these same roots. I really like the Millenia a lot, because it is unique. It's not a clone of anything like the Maxima and I35 or the Camry and ES300. I suppose I've owned enough Mazdas anyway...I plan on keeping my Millenia S for about 5 years.
  • I noticed in one picture there is a gated shifter with manumatic mode, in another there's an old fashiond non-manumatic...is one maybe the four cyl, and the other the 6.

    At any rate...I absolutely LOVE the looks of this car, inside and out. I am a big Nissan fan (especially the Maxima), and I just walked away from an incredible accident where my Maxima literally saved my life....I may buy another, but this car is gorgeous! I wish it was out now so I could test it.

    Way to go Mazda! If the price and performance are right..this will be a big hit (as long as it tought traditional Japanese quality)
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    The 4 cylinder will have an optional 4 speed automatic, while the V6 will have an optional 5 speed manumatic, notice I said optional, meaning a 5 speed manual will be standard!!
  • The problem with autoweek is that they make a lot of assumptions. Many a time autoweek has predicted the wrong thing or provided wrong information. All the reports that I have seen indicate the 5-door will be coming to the US. Also I do believe that is really aluminum trim but what ever it is it sure looks snazzy. It really sets the interior apart from other cars.

    Zoom-Zoom!
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    From what I read, Mazda execs have said that all three versions will be available in the US, the wagon due to the fact that the wagon is making a comeback in the United States, and so are hatchbacks. I hope to see all three versions available around this time next year.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Edmunds.com's Preview of the 2003 Mazda 6 is now linked in the Additional Resources box on the left sidebar of this page. If you haven't seen it yet, check it out.

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  • rickrozrickroz Posts: 26
    I just read the review of the mazda 6. What a sharp looking car. The article said something about the U.S. having crappy gas. Does anyone know what they meant by this? I know our diesel contains more sulfer than the europeans but this doesn't apply to this car.
  • stebustebu Posts: 204
    It looks like the next "6" may be an attractive and sporty car. Although, I'll have to reserve judgement until next year when the car is more then just paperware here in the US. Some cars look better in person and some don't. I do hope they bring the hatch here. I've always been partial to the more utilitarian nature of a hatchback when dealing with cars this small. IMHO, if executed properly, a hatch can look better then a sedan which appears may be the case with the 6. I also wish Mazda marketing would have put a little more thought into the name, (along with losing the zoom-zoom stuff which reminds me of a Hot Wheels toy commercial... grow up already). Although, the name game is hardly a new problem at Mazda.

    The Mazda 6 will have to offer something special to overcome the new Altima which seems to have assumed the mantle of styling and power leader in the midsized sedan marketplace. I had been thinking that for my next car I would be moving a bit more upscale to either an IS300, BMW 3 series, Jaguar X-type, or maybe the soon to be released Infiniti G35 (I also like the Millenia but hear it may be going away soon). At any rate, the new Altima has definitely given me pause and a 6-cyl hatchback/sedan from Mazda might garner my interest if they don't skimp too much on the final execution of the 6 to shave a few pennies from the car. Besides, no matter what anyone says, RWD (not the X-type of course) is just not the best year round platform here in New England. Besides, I'm always looking to spend as little as possible for any car considering how poor an investment they are.

    But, like most car enthusiasts, I want what I want if you know what I mean, which probably explains how I ended up owning an RX-7 convertible some years ago. Heck, for that matter I still am very much a big fan of the Nissan Maxima which also appears to be getting better all the time. I just love all these choices.
  • bdesaibdesai Posts: 24
    first of all i must say that the new "6" looks very fine, very european, very sporty and agressive. I currently own a '98 Camry (my wife insisted) that I could care less for, and a '88 626 hatchback with 176,000 miles on it and which I still very much love. I had counted Mazda out of my possible next purchases because the company seems to have changed. From sporty it went to boring and crappy. And this whole Ford thing and its parts in Mazda cars is also scarry.
    But hey, I love the look of the new 6 and if they bring the hatch and the wagon to this market than I am in. If they bring the sedan only they will never be able to take on the likes of Toyota/Honda. I feel that if Mazda wants to take on more market share than the only way to go for them is more creative/young/sporty niche. Toyota and Honda are hard to beat in the mass market category.
  • bdesaibdesai Posts: 24
    The reason Toyota and Honda do well is because of reputation that has been created by years of reliable products. You can compete with that level of reputation and name overnight. I mean if you have similar products for exactly the same price from Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Mitsu, Suzuki, Nissan, Ford, GM then which one is the customer going to take a chance with. He/She figures they can't go wrong with a Toyota/Honda. SO, the only way another japanese company has a chance, is with niche products which the Toyota/Honda are sure to omit out in their zeal to sell to the masses. I learned that the Toyota reputation is a little over rated personally. Our Camry has this rattle comming from the left B pillar that has not been fixed after numerous visits to the dealership. The car otherwise is rock solid but rather boring, the interior is uninspiring. My Mazda hatch on the other hand has also been rock solid. With 176K miles I have mostly done wear and tear items ie. exhaust x3, brakes x4, tires, CV joints, rear wheel bearings. I put a quart of oil in between oil changes which is expected in a car this old. My major complain has been with all four power windows whoose electric motor still works fine but this plastic cogwheel in the regulator has cracked in all 4 windows. But still to this day it is a joy to ride in this car.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    The first has some info about other exciting things Mazda has in the pipeline -

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/previews/mazda6.htm


    And

    http://news.24.com/News24/Wheels24/News/0,3999,2-15-47_1096699,00.html


    And this has a bunch of specs (including wheelbase, someone was asking about it)

    http://news.24.com/News24/Wheels24/News/0,3999,2-15-47_1096699,00.html


    Hmmm, ventilated discs - a first for this car class? And 18 inch wheels? Hopefully Mazda doesn't price this out of the range of its competition! Still very exciting, though!

    This link also has an image of the RX-8, more mature now than at the earlier autoshows. I like the yellow and black interior!

  • diploiddiploid Posts: 2,286
    I'm not digging the clear tail lights, though.

    Let me have mine with crystallized red, and a clear white strip running through it like in the Accord's.

    Other than that, the 6 looks very sharp, especially in hatchback trim. Even the wagon manages to look sharp.

    Too bad they had to make do with Ford's V-6.
  • gerapaugerapau Posts: 211
    ashutoshsm: Your third link was the same as your second. I think that you are missing the link that mentions the specs.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I say sell the sedan and wagon as mainstream, but sporty, sedans.

    Then offer the 5 door hatch as a specialty sports car. Give it the V6 tuned like the Jag's, for about 240hp, and a limited slip front differential to better manage that amount of power. Better yet, give it AWD standard. 6 speed manual only. 18" wheels.

    Sound like fun?

    -juice
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    its fine. get over it.

    show me anyone with a 96 and newer taurus duratec where something was actually wrong with the motor. That motor is solid as a rock. No oil burned....unlike a GM Northstar motor.

    Its also a quick revving and lively powerplant, coupled with the right transmission.

    durable, quick revving. at least its not that tired old 3800 that GM's been building since the middle ages.

    If its good enough for Jaguar it must be good enough for Mazda.

    And if the Mazda engineers spend enough time with it, tweaking it, I'm sure it may be improved enough to be even livelier and more durable.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    http://autonet.ca/autonetStories/Stories.cfm?storyID=3497


    Thats the link with the specs (sorry about the previous snafu, gerapau!



    Heres a link at blueovalnews.com (Ford forum and website)
    http://www.bonforums.com/cars/mazda_6appeal.htm

    And here're the specs at ford's website
    http://media.ford.com/products/presskit_display.cfm?vehicle_id=527&press_section_id=398&make_id=227

    As for the Ford Duratec, I do tend to agree - I mentioned earlier that it was one of the only reliable engines made by Ford! My cousin has a 99 Taurus (bought late 99, used, with more than 60K on it now, no problems at all!


    I had been thinking about the fact that the Taurus and Mazda Tribute are not offered with manual when coupled with this engine - thanks for mentioning the Jag X-Type; now I know it can work with a stick!

  • Does anyone know if the Mazda 6 is based on the Mondeo platform?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I hope the Mazda 6 is alot more promising than the current 626 is. I have a Protege now, but will probably upgrade to a larger car next time around (about 4 years or so), and I hope the 6 can sway me to it when it's time to replace the Pro.
  • that's not good! The Mondeo platform is awesome
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Saw a baby Jag in person for the first time and they are gorgeous! That's based on the Mondeo platform.

    Remember, the Contour was heavily watered down. The Mondeo, even the old one, was successful in Europe.

    Still, glad to see Mazda went on its own for the platform. More choices.

    The wider track and the 219hp sound good.

    -juice
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    is prolly the reason they stayed away from the Mondeo platform. And the age of that platform! The new 6 should have better handling and cornering abilities, judging from the specs of the platform (decent wheelbase, wider track)

    In another discussion, or in a magazine/website - it was mentioned that the platform and engine for future Ford, Volvo, Mazda (and jag?) cmopact-midsized sedans would be made by Mazda. VERY smart move, IMHO - despite how good people think the Mondeo is :-)

    I just hope they bring the wagon, and also combine the 6 cylinder with a manual transmission - otherwise a lot of people (including me) won't be interested!
  • Oh, come now!

    the Mondeo platform was all new for 2000 and is considered the class-leading FWD midsized sedan in terms of ride and handling.

    I'm quite aware of the Contour, as I have lived in Europe, and it wasn't watered down except for three things:

    the suspension was heavily modified;
    the rear taillights were different
    the interior was different in the fascia

    Mazdas are great cars, but their midsized platforms have usually been mushy. The Millenia / Xedos 9 was fairly boring to drive, and the current 626 even worse. The last generation 626 was better in terms of firmer springs.

    The Mondeo platform is about as advanced as front wheel drive cars get except for the Mini, the modified Ford Puma chassis, and perhaps the Alfa Romeo 147.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The US variants may have been a little mushy, but Japan has always had more interesting cars built off the same platform. It's the suspension tuning, watered down for US buyers. Same for the Contour.

    The current 626 was designed in cost cutting times. I agree the previous gen was better (we own one, and have had new-gen loaners that aren't as good).

    The new Mondeo looks good, but it is a bit narrow and small for the US market.

    -juice
  • It is not too narrow and small for the US market.

    It's handily larger than a Jetta and interior-wise is the same size as a Passat and a Legacy.

    It's too narrow and small as a Taurus replacement, but that kind of phrase makes us sound like we only drive Cadillac Fleewoods. The Mondeo is a tad larger than the current-gen 626 and it is a great machine... there's a lot of word-to-mouth demand for this car in the US market and it could theoretically do very well.

    Remember when they said that the Focus would be another world car failure? The Focus and Mondeo are similar vehicles in their design, handling and market intentions (Golf and Passat competitors) .

    Wait and see is my belief...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, but Ford buyers are different than VW and Subaru buyers. They expect more space, bigger cars.

    IMO the reason the Contour failed was its tight interior quarters. That plus they watered down the handling, so it wasn't the small, sporty sedan that was popular in Europe.

    Focus is an excellent counterpoint, but check out the inside - it's roomy for its class, probably more roomy than the bigger Contour was.

    -juice
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