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Mazda6 Wagon

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  • slickdogslickdog Posts: 225
    My wagon's mileage has been in the range of 19.4 to 28.3 MPG since I have owned it (2+ years), with an average of 24.5 MPG. I average 338 miles between fuel stops and put in an average of 13.8G each time. Most of my lowest numbers occurred during the first few months of ownership, since then I rarely get less then 23 MPG.

    My Outback wagon does slightly better on the mileage, as it has an H4 but I think the AWD and AT probably reduce it's potential a bit.

    No repairs needed for me yet either.
  • jpd52jpd52 Posts: 6
    I am glad to hear you're getting an average of 24 mpg. I just got a 2007 6 Sportwagon. I like the car alot, but right off the bat I am seeing less mileage than the Volvo V70 T5 I came from. Just about 20, but it is brand new. 800 miles. I wanted to know if you have run the 5-20 oil recommended on the motor. I would like to use synthetic, and have always run 5-30 Amsoil as I have a dealer relationship with them, but could get 5-20 if it runs better. It sure drives alot better than the Volvo, but I hope I pick up a few more miles per gallon.

    Thanks,
    Jon Pousette-Dart
    NYC
  • Don't get cloth seats. Unless Mazda has changed them dramatically since 2004, I've heard terrible stories about them pilling before their time. I once swore I'd never get leather seats for the same reason you mentioned, but I LOVE them (2004 Mazda 6 wagon). They're perforated, if that makes a difference, and they really aren't miserably hot like you'd expect. I live in NC, and we get more than our share of temps in the 90s and high humidity.
  • Unless Mazda has changed them dramatically since 2004, I've heard terrible stories about them pilling before their time.

    This is true, the '03-'05 cloth isn't very good, at least based on other owners accounts (my cloth seats in my '04 are still in good shape, with no pilling or fading, and this is with 45K miles on them).

    For '06, the Mazda6 was freshened both inside and out, the seats were redesigned and upgraded, and the cloth material was upgraded significantly. I haven't heard any complaints about then yet...
  • Tomorrow I pick up my 07 Mazda Wagon. This marks my 4th Mazda purchase in the past 20 years. Needless to say, there was no hesitation or second guesses when it came to turning down any extended warranties. Question for y'all. I-Pod integration module. Something a guy can pick up after market and through some source other than the dealer? Simple as plug and play, or is there some funky installation required by the dealer? Not sure if I want to spend $160 + for this adder, but would love to have it.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I believe the OE module and the aftermarket modules are very similar and have basically the same function. the cheapest I've seen the A/M modules is about $125. Trussville Mazda has the OE module for $116 with free shipping.
  • garywigarywi Posts: 54
    I drove the Subaru Outback and Forester today. Nice, but kind of expensive. I looked at some used Mazda 6 wagons. I can get a 2005 automatic for $14K, and they have 5 of them at this dealer. My concerns: Why are they so cheap? Depreciated $10K in two years? I can't get the Mazda 4 cyl engine which is Japenese, but only the Ford V6. I don't like anything about Ford. Also, I am reading people get less than 20mpg? Does the new 6speed auto help that? Also, why have I never seen a Mazda wagon on the road?

    Someone please sell me on why I should buy one. Also looking at all the small SUVs, but I am liking the wagon idea, but few make a wagon anymore.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Why are they so cheap? Depreciated $10K in two years?

    They're not selling very well, at least compared to the SUVs and crossovers that are now storming the market, but it's a great deal if you need to haul stuff and don't want the bad handling, gas-guzzling traits of an SUV or most crossovers.

    I can't get the Mazda 4 cyl engine which is Japenese, but only the Ford V6. I don't like anything about Ford.

    The Duratec in the 6 is indeed a 3.0L from Ford, but Mazda did their own tuning and design to better suit their needs. The Duratec as a whole is a very reliable engine, having been in the Probe, Contour, and Taurus for years, with no major problems. My V6 has got 45K miles and still runs very well, with no issues to report.

    Also, I am reading people get less than 20mpg? Does the new 6speed auto help that?

    Can't help you here, since I've got the sedan. I have heard that the manual gets better mileage, that is, if you can find one... Which leads me to:

    Also, why have I never seen a Mazda wagon on the road?

    Yes, they are rare, but they're out there. I know of two of them that live near me. To me, that's part of their appeal, not having everyone else on the block own one.

    Hope this helps. Good luck with whatever you decide.
  • I bought a used 2004 Mazda 6 wagon about 6 months ago. I am really happy with everything except the mileage. I expected a little more than the 19-20 mpg I get. I guess it is a little more disappointing since the low rpm power is not great. I stick would probably help both issues.
  • jpd52jpd52 Posts: 6
    The reason to own one of these, is they are the best kept secret on the road. Just bought a 2007 6 Sportswagon, and it is twice the car the Volvo V70 T5 I got rid of in terms of everything you could think of, for half the price
    Jon
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    I can get a 2005 automatic for $14K, and they have 5 of them at this dealer. My concerns: Why are they so cheap? Depreciated $10K in two years?

    May not have depreciated as much as you think, since they were probably being sold with big rebates and discounts two years ago, just as they are now.

    New leftover 2006 Mazda6 wagons appear to be advertised at $16,500 around here. A dealer here (WI) has an ad saying they have 30 of them. With $2000 in rebates available, even a new 2007 Value Edition could be bought for $21,000 and probably even less.

    You do have to get the V6 in the Wagon, if you want the 4 cyl you could get the hatchback, though.
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  • mikerookmikerook Posts: 1
    Can you provide more info about this dealer? I'm looking for the base 06 wagon and can't find any in my area.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    It was Russ Darrow in Milwaukee, WI.

    From the inventory search on mazdausa.com (you might try a search on there in your area, too) looks like there is one base '06 with manual and another dealer in my area (Amato) has a base '06 with automatic.
  • paysonpayson Posts: 32
    We have an 05 auto wagon with 12,000 miles on it. We get 21-22 mpg around town, and 27-29 mpg highway. Ours has the 6 speed transmission. We traded in a Sienna van for it, and are very happy.
  • ccwinslowccwinslow Posts: 29
    I bought an '04 (in August '04), have put 30K+ miles on it, and have loved every minute of driving it. The handling is superb, it's comfortable, and yes, there are few on the road. It still turns heads and gets comments. I'd buy another if they still make them when this one wears out. The mileage isn't great (manual trans), but I'm a bit of a lead foot ... and it's the car's fault. :)
  • slickdogslickdog Posts: 225
    Sorry jpd52, I've been away for a while. If you're still around here's my answer to your question...

    Until last fall, I was using Mobil1 5W-20 which is full synthetic. Last oil change in November, I put in Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20, which is also full synthetic. Prior to that, only Mobil1 5W-20 was sold by the case in my area, so when the Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 cases appeared for less money, I switched.

    I change both oil and filter at about 6mo/7000mi.

    Hopefully your car's mileage will increase slightly with age, mine did.
  • jpd52jpd52 Posts: 6
    Thanks for the reply. I am behind your footsteps in terms
    of oil and mileage. I will be putting in Amsoil 5W-20 from here on in, and in fact my mileage has gone up to about 25 mpg general driving.
    Thanks
  • My first exposure to the M6 Wagon was when I drove by a dealer two years ago and saw one on the lot. It looked great. I swung in and asked questions and got a brochure. It has been on my list of cars to consider ever since.

    The only negative that came to mind was the V6 Ford heritage. Durability and gas guzzling concerns. I have since learned, thanks to this Forum, that only the block is Ford, with all the bits and pieces being unique to Mazda.

    Reports on mileage vary dramatically on this board. I suspect it has to do with differences in driving styles. That said, I doubt it will do as well as my 2005 Monte Carlo (3400 V6 auto) which gets 27 mpg in regular fill ups and 33 on the highway (and I drive fast).

    I bought a NEW 2006 basic wagon yesterday. I would have preferred an upscale with the leather seats, but none could be found with such a good price. I searched on cars.com and found several new 2006 basic wagons for $18,500. I chose a Pebble Ash (won’t show the dirt). As I was closing the deal by phone, the salesman offered me a further $500 discount because of some deal they had that was about to expire. So I got a new 2006 wagon for $18,000 plus a $350 dealer fee.

    There are some other new '06 basic wagons at that price out there. There are also at least 2 brand new 2005 wagons available from dealers.

    I think I done good.

    By the way, I live in Canada, so will drive the car home and pay the usual GST/PST tax at the border (the same tax I would pay if I bought the car in Canada) plus a special federal import tax of about $150. The car has to be certified that it meets Canadian standards (it does). This certification is a free service at any Canadian Tire store.
    The only difference in this car from one sold in Canada is that the air bag warning labels won’t be bi-lingual with French and the speedo/odometer will be in miles instead of klicks. No big deal. The only other difference will be the fatter wallet in my back pocket. $6,000 makes a big lump.

    I look forward to posting my first drive impressions. In a week or so I will drive it home, a nice little 600 mile drive.

    I have a couple of questions to ask of those with ownership and technical experience.

    I live on a farm. My driveways is 500 yards long. We take snow tires very seriously here. One poster mentioned the high cost of 17” snow tires. Can I buy some 2005 Mazda 15” alloy wheels and use those for snow tires? Cheaper wheels and cheaper tires. Are the stud patterns the same?

    The 626 automatic transmission (Ford) was a weak point of the car. One big help was to install a transmission cooler. This costs less than $100. I was wondering if this would be a good idea for the M6? My idea is to do it now, before trannies start to fail. Anyone here know for sure that the cooler on the M6 is adequate? Is the ’06 automatic a Ford product?
  • I found this on a test drive report of a 2004 Wagon in a Canadian magazine.

    Fuel consumption, according to Transport Canada, is 12.6 l/100 km (23 mpg) in the city and 8.2 l/100 km (35 mpg) on the highway, a bit thirsty.

    The Imperial gallon is about 20% bigger than the U.S. gallon, so the gov't estimate is about 28 miles highway to the US gallon. Is this higher than what you get on a highway trip?
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    live on a farm. My driveways is 500 yards long. We take snow tires very seriously here. One poster mentioned the high cost of 17” snow tires. Can I buy some 2005 Mazda 15” alloy wheels and use those for snow tires? Cheaper wheels and cheaper tires. Are the stud patterns the same?

    I'm not too sure if 15" wheels will fit over the brakes without any clearance problems. I guess it depends on the wheels themselves. My advice is to either invest in a set of 16" steelies, or a used set of 16" wheels from a Mazda 3 or 6. I've got 16" steelies with 205/60-16 Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2s, and they've been excellent in the three seasons that I've used them.
  • You are right. There is the question of clearing the brake assemblies. I mispoke. I can get a set of Mazda 16" alloys cheap (not 15") and could use these for snow tires instead of the 17" wheels on the 06. Or at least, I hope I can. As I understand it, the wagon used 17" wheels but some '06 models still use 16". Unless the brakes are different, I should be ok. My concern was that maybe the stud patterns were different. Unlikely, but no harm in asking.

    Funny you should mention the Alpins. I had a set on my Buick Rendezvous for the first winter. We found them good winter tires except for deep snow - which is our driveway problem. Once we got out on the highway, they handled slush and cold very well. I replaced them with cheap WalMart tires with real agressive treads. Noisy, but the cars here with those tires are like snowmobiles.

    We have nine cars here, and all except the Corvette are used year round, so we get a good feel for which snow tires work best for snow. The Wal MArt and Canadian Tire snows seem best - and they are the cheapest. Go figure.
  • I bought a set of 17" mazda 6 wheels off Ebay and great snow tires off the internet. I had about $600 total finto the project. We average about 120" of snow per winter and thsi was a great investment!
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    I haven't dealt with deep snow very often, but being in the upstate NY area, we deal with snow on the roads quite more than other areas, and the Alpins have been great for me, especially on snow-covered highways, which I drive often.
  • I used the Alpins on my Monte Carlo. On the highway they were quiet and gave excellent braking and steering. But not so good in deep snow.

    The agressive tread tires are better in snow but noisy and a bit mushing on handling. A compromise, I guess.
  • slickdogslickdog Posts: 225
    For snows, I'm using 16" Dunlop Winter Sport M2's mounted on relatively cheap alloys (~$72 per) from TireRack. The alloys weren't much more expensive than steels, they're lighter, and they look much nicer. The Dunlops are a huge improvement on snow/ice over the stock Michelins, which were marginal at best. They are classified by TireRack as a winter performance tire, so the tread is less aggressive than something like a Blizzak, and the rubber doesn't seem as soft. Therefore, they are certainly not tops for snow traction but they are also not too squishy so I can throw the car around corners quickly without getting the sensation that I'm driving on marshmallows, which for me would take a lot of the joy out of driving this car.

    On the transmissions, I used to own a 626 and I believe the I4 626 auto was a notorious-for-trouble Ford unit, the 6-cyl 626 auto was a seemingly more reliable Jatco unit, at least some of the Mazda6 autos also got a Jatco 5-speed, and I'm not sure what the 6-speed auto is but I think it is from yet another manufacturer. There are posts about strangeness with the Mazda6 automatics, but they seem to be more related to electronic issues than mechanical issues. Both of my Mazdas were/are equipped with manual trannys so I haven't followed those issues very closely.

    At any rate, congrats on your purchase and I hope you enjoy it.
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  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    They are classified by TireRack as a winter performance tire, so the tread is less aggressive than something like a Blizzak, and the rubber doesn't seem as soft. Therefore, they are certainly not tops for snow traction but they are also not too squishy so I can throw the car around corners quickly without getting the sensation that I'm driving on marshmallows, which for me would take a lot of the joy out of driving this car.

    That's also what the Alpins are classified as well. Better winter traction without the loss of driving feel (or fun).
  • slickdogslickdog Posts: 225
    Yep, I was interested the Alpins, but they were not available in the size I wanted at TireRack when I needed to buy, so I ordered the Dunlops instead. We use Michelin X-Ice snows on our Outback, which are not classified as a winter performance tire but they do have less aggressive tread and are not very squishy so they help the AWD bite somewhat better than all-seasons on snow/ice without compromising much.
  • I am blessed with a wife that can navigate by direction, as opposed to turning at known landmarks. More than once she has said she would like one of those digital compasses available in new cars. The last two new cars did not get one because they were only available as part of an expensive upgrade including things we did not need or want.

    A salesman just told me I can buy the mirror with the compass and repalce the standard mirror. He quoted $200 which seems like an OK price for something that would please the wife.

    I assume the compass needs some kind of electrical input. Would the wiring harness of a base 2006 wagon have the hook up for a compass?

    I pick up the new wagon in Cincinnati in three days and will drive it back to Toronto. I have never driven a Mazda6, so look forward to the drive. My concerns are seating comfort for a 6 footer and gas economy.
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