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Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair



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  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    If it's a high ptched whine (like a TV whine) you only hear when you apply throttle at highway speeds, then I've been told it's the pinion gears in the transmission/diff and it's normal.

    My 02 wagon made this noise. It bothered me at first, but after a while I really didn't notice it too much.

  • do you have another car? I put my wife's car keys together with mine andhad the same problem, leave the keys apart and the problem will be solved
  • The noise comes from the clutch and has no influence on its effectiveness, mine has just worn out on the 2.5from 2000 after 210.000 kms.
    After a while I even learned to appreciate the noise while accellerating.
  • just repair the cap over the axle, nothings wrong with the axle itself, you can check easily if the cap is still intact. Just fix it on the next maintenance, the cost is minor on parts and costed me about 80 $, myproblem appeared after about 135000miles
  • Outback owner, model LEGACY 2.5, mileage 217.000kms recommends the model after a very active and sporty use with only a clutch issue solved by Subaru under warranty even with 197.000kms on the car as I had formulated a request during the warranty period.
    It is a fantastic car for cruising, increadibelly stable even under overcharged conditions(very heavy loads) and very effective on ice and much fun on snow for towing your two wheel drive neighbours. Its a bit more noisy than average but if used at his torque not thirsty at all even if they say so.
    Have fun.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    The H6 was auto transmission only -- no clutch (well, not a traditional one anyway).

  • I was very close a week ago to buying an Outback wagon with the 2.5L. Loved everything about it. Researched the web a bit and got scared to death by the seemingly infinite web sites and postings regarding the "2.5L headgasket leaks from hell" issue.

    I've seen posts affecting the 2.5L from ~1999 through 2003. Nothing on 2004 or 2005 models, but from what I can gather nothing much has changed in the engine over these years.

    I deeply want to avoid any sort of hassle factor of a 10 issue arguing with the dealer over this sort of stuff. Esp. considering it is such a major part - not something like a strut or a rattle.

    So please educate me.

    My salesperson claimed the whole issue was originally a bad batch of gaskets that they worked through. I took that as total BS given I've read people having to replace the gasket at 60K and then again only 20K later. Why wouldn't the replacement gasket be the "better" one if true?
  • m1axm1ax Posts: 3
    Thanks for the answer C_hunter. I will have the car checked by a dealer next week; I'll let you know what is his diagnosis.

    BTW, I don't hear it only at highway speed; I'd say that it's there at speeds as low as 20 MPH, but it gets more audible at higher speeds.
  • sos03sos03 Posts: 6
    To slickdog and to later response from Jim W.,

    Engine temp seems to have stabilized (though gauge is is slightly lower than before) and have not, to date, had hesitation recurrence - am beginning to wonder whether I just got some "bad" gas.

    New problem is intermittent clicking noise from steering wheel on turns (probably just got put back together incorrectly after all the
    monitoring?) Guess will try to get car to dealer when clicking noise next occurs....

    jim, the heater always worked perfectly (frequently too warm for me so the auto-climate control overworks the ac)

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Replied to you in the other topic.

    Please don't cross-post.

  • bmurphybmurphy Posts: 1
    I have a 2000 Subaru Outback that developed coolant leaks at Headgaskets leaked at 20,000, 46,000 and the last one at 63,000 miles. I had the tsb done with the additive but it's done no good. I'm talking to a lawyer to see if there's anything I can do. Are there enough of us that we can get a class action started or something? Has anyone else in NJ had this problem? I'm desperate and just want Subaru to fix this mess. Please email me if you've had any luck if getting this fixed or or any luck with the lemon law or want to join a class action. Something has to be done. Help!
  • I have a 2003 Outback Limited with a six cd changer (Part #H6240LS101) and one of the disks apparently got stuck. I was wondering if there was a manual release to eject the cd or whether I need to take it back to the dealer. I bought the car used with 30,000 miles and got the $100 deductible extended warranty but to avoid the hassle of leaving the car with the dealer I was wondering if there was another way out.
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    If the disc is stuck and wouldn't eject, you'll have to take it apart.
    I believe you can access the disc by removing the top cover of the HU.
    I've not done it myself... well, I was going to when I forgot to remove the CDs after I did the aftermarket swap today, but 3 of the 8 screws on the mounting bracket just wouldn't budge :(

  • Wow! Thanks for the quick reply...I think I'll take it back to the dealer and spend the $100 bucks...sorry about your cd's...I hope they can salvage mine when they remove the unit...Thanks for you help!
  • K9LeaderK9Leader Posts: 112

    I also have a 2000 OBW. I bought it at 32K miles in March 2003. In January 2004 at 42K I had the head gasket leak and had it at the dealer when SOA announced the coolant additive/warranty extension fix. The dealer seemed to have been giving me the runaround for a couple of days (stalling due to the breaking news of the fix) so I got SOA customer service (via Patti) involved. The gunk was added, the warranty extended to 8/100K, and the SOA CSR offered to pay for my 60K service when it came due (they volunteered it -- I hadn't even raised the issue).

    It hit 60k recently and I was smelling coolant again (usually on the colder days). Took it to the dealer (different one than a year ago as that one is no longer a Subaru store) for the 60K service and, yes, it was leaking again so they replaced the gasket under the warranty. I have sent the paperwork in to SOA for reimbursement and am looking forward to them being good to their word.

    In all, both dealers and SOA (so far) have been up front and responsive. These kind of mechanical/technical things happen. The real test is how they deal with it. Assuming I do get the reimbursement for the 60K service, they done right by me.

    Were the gaskets replaced at 20K, 46k, and the coolant additive done at 63K? If you had the coolant additive done, then you should be covered under the extended warranty, even though you were beyond the original 60K warranty as it was an ongoing condition. You need to call SOA customer service and get them involved. Give them a chance to make it right before you resort to unchaining the lawyers.

    I know it is frustrating, but in the grand scheme of automotive problems, this is on the lower end of the spectrum. You ought to talk to my buddy who has finally given up on his Chrysler minivan now that it needs its fourth(!) transmission.

    Good luck!


    P.S. Tried to respond by email, but no go -- you have your email address blocked in your profile.
  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    zellaidella, "Legacy/Outback Wagons Problems & Solutions (Wagons)" #4463, 23 Mar 2005 3:58 pm

    You could also just remove the radio and leave it with the dealer. That way, you still have the car to drive around (minus radio) :)

    I got my CDs out... had to uninstall the new HU and plug the 6 CD back on to eject the disc :P

  • omeromer Posts: 7
    I just bought a new 2005 Legacy base model. When i first start the car in the morning it is very noisy for the first 30 secs. Is this a normal noise??
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    I also have a 2000 OBW and had the headgaskets replaced under warranty back around 36000 miles. The dealer added the additive las tyear, and so far no problems.

    Which dealer are you going to? Sometimes that can make all the difference. I go to Flemington subaru, where I have alsways been treated fairly.
    Good luck and let us know what happens.

  • smillersmiller Posts: 32
    My 2005 OBW 2.5i is noisy too right after cold start. My dealer said it is normal -
    "That it is the computer doing its job along with
    the emissions system doing its job to achieve the low emissions standard."
    I hope the know what they are talking about.
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