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Nissan X-Trail

artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
I've gotta get this started here because this could be a welcome competitor in the ever-expanding SUV market and it would be an important vehicle for Nissan, who would finally get a player in the car-based crossover SUV market (a segment that they are totally absent from).

Here are a couple of links that suggest the car-based entry-level SUV market might just have a new, formidable competitor.

http://forums.vmag.com/suvcrv0999/messages/3060.html


and an update:

http://forums.vmag.com/suvcrv0999/messages/3075.html


hope it's all true, Nissan, 'cause we(you) need this vehicle now!

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  • cb70cb70 Posts: 226
    I think with Nissan's current SUV lineup the addition of the XTrail would be great. I would personally be interested in this as right now I am shopping the Xterra, Vue, and CRV.
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    If you're shopping Vue and CR-V (as I am) then I would think the X-Trail would suit your needs better than the X-Terra. Things I like about the X-Trail:
    "just right size"....not too big, not too small
    superior AWD system - FWD only for economy, AUTO for set & forget traction....it's also more pro-active than re-active in that it coumes into play before wheel slippage (e.g. during acceleration) and it has a "LOCK" feature for when the going gets really tough.
    Good balance of economy/power....the Altima 4 is all I need....top of the class 4cyl power with near top of the class economy....the V6 (also from the Altima, I assume) should satisfy any power freaks.
    Washable luggage area - beats the heck out of carpeting
    A proper Swing Up Hatch....my big beef about the CR-V is it's damage-prone, inconvenient, rear-view-blocking, curb blocking side swinging door external spare combo.
    If it's marketed as it is in Australia, should offer more features for less $$$ than the competition.
    I expect the CR-V (esp.2002) will have the edge in room and possibly refinement....would expect both to be quite reliable
  • cb70cb70 Posts: 226
    just LOVES the Xterra. Any chance we will see the X Trail in the US?
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    As long as she doesn't mind paying the gas bills and the truck-like ride and the part-time 4WD, there's nothing wrong with the X-terra, and it does look cool......just not what me and my family need at this point. As for the X-Trail, your guess is as good as mine but the links seem to indicate it will come here in Feb/Mar of 2002.
    That's partly why i started this thread....to try and drum up some more information.
  • cb70cb70 Posts: 226
    is piglike fuel mileage with low horses to boot. Put the 3.5 in it.
  • Anyone know the towing capacity of the X-trail?
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    the exact #'s are at work but size-wise, it x-Trail is about an inch shorter and an inch narrower than the x-Terra and a few inches lower

    (doesn't have that stepped roof). It's also a whopping 900 lbs lighter and horsepower-wise, the X-Trail four has 175-180 vs. the X-terra's 190? hp six. Needless to say, gas mileage is far superior. Towing capacity is 15-1600 lbs for unbraked trailers and I think about 3500 lbs for braked trailers......these are New Zealand Nissan figures btw......they have a great pdf format downloadable brochure.....you have to convert the figures from metric though.

    http://www.nissan.co.nz/nissa_bin/model_core.html?dealer=&id=11

    .....some great pix and info
  • cb70cb70 Posts: 226
    I believe that this mini SUV would kick every competitors butt that is out there right now. I hope we do get this option. I for one am very intrigued right now.
  • I wish Nissan North America would come out and say something official about this thing.

    I want it over here now!

    It would be my choice over the CRV (2002), Rav-4, Triscape, Liberty, Vue etc.

    Only other unknown is the 2003 Forester.
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    You & me both, Canadatwo....I've written to Ian Forsyth....Nissan Canada Marketing Mgr. but have yet to hear back......in the meantime, any web-savvy Nissan people who might read these forums, feel free to chip in with some info.
    BTW, given how the Forester is priced up here in the great white north, I think the Xtrail would be my choice over it as well.....even without seeing or hearing about the 2003 model.
  • peter78peter78 Posts: 284
    artdecho how did you find that site? It was very informative. I like the light colored X-Trails better than the dark colored. Of course the steering wheel is on the wrong side and engine has 132kW @ 6000 rpm for power and 245Nm @ 4000 rpm for torque. Huh?
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    yahoo/autos/makes&models/nissan/...regional/new zealand i think was the path.
    if you check out some of Nissan's european sites, you get to see the steering wheel on "our" side.
    however, they get the japanese mkt 2 litre 4 good for only about 137 hp. as far as i know, the 2.5 litre 4 is the new altima engine, so hp should be about 175-180 and torque figures should be the same as the new altima as well.
  • With the 02 Honda CRV disappointing in almost everyway the X-Trail would make a fine alternative to the RAV4 and Ford products. As always Nissan Morth America is slow to realize that the market for an X-Trail has little to do with the Pathfinder or even Xterra buyer. I wanted to drop a line to the president of NNA but couldn't find a name in their corporate information. Can anyone help on this?
  • No Names- but perhaps this will help...

    Nissan Consumer Affairs
    P.O. Box 191
    Gardena, CA 90248
    (800) NISSAN-1 (or 800-647-7261)
    9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Eastern / Central Time
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    European-Honda http://www.europeanhonda.demon.nl/index.htm

    has a New Zealand review of the new CR-V which is generally positive but does mention it's formidable competition, "non tougher than Nissan's much-lauded X-trail and Mitsubishi's clever Airtrek".

    i agree, miamicrv, that the new CR-V is somewhat disappointing, and would like to have the option of choosing the X-Trail over it. Come on Nissan, pick up the ball and run with it.....you have a winner with the X-Trail. Toyota(incl Lexus) has 3, soon to be 4 car-based SUV's, Honda has 2, Saturn, Mazda, Ford, even Hyundai has one. You guys have ZERO......get with it!
  • Checked out the Nissan Austrailia site, the X-Trail looks great and would be my choice if I could get it. Called Nissan Canada about it and they had no idea what I was talking about. I referred them to the site but actually find it kinda sad that there call center staff has less info than the average person who spends some time on the net. Have decided to lease the new special edition Pathfinder and hopefully by the end of the lease the X-Trail will be available.
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    New Zealand figures:

    2002 CR-V: 119Kw@6500rpm & 219Nm@3800rpm
    2002 X-Trail: 132Kw@6000rpm & 245Nm@4000rpm

    should translate to:

    2002 CR-V: 160Hp/162lbs-ft
    2002 X-Trail: 177Hp/181lbs-ft

    anyway you say it, X-trail outguns CR-V
    and weighs less too:
    2002 CR-V 3201-3347 lbs
    2002 X-trail 1400 kg = 3086 lbs
  • Thank you for contacting Nissan North America, Inc. regarding X-trail
    availability in the U.S.

    We don't know the source of the rumors you mention, but X-Trail will not be
    introduced into our U.S. model line for model year 2002. X-Trail was
    considered for North America but was not taken. With Xterra for low
    authentic low price SUV and Pathfinder for the upper end of the compact SUV
    segment, we have two very competitive and successful product offerings.

    We take pride in the fact that Nissan vehicles are regarded as some of the
    most reliable and value-added vehicles in the world. Nissan strives to
    produce quality products that are stylish, yet efficient, dependable, and
    durable. Nissan produces many different vehicles to suit different
    lifestyles and needs, worldwide. Nissan North America, Inc. is the
    distributor of Nissan vehicles approved for the U.S. market. At this time,
    Nissan North America, Inc. does not feel that it is in its best interest to
    market X-Trail in the U.S.

    Once again, thank you for taking the time to write. We appreciate your
    interest in Nissan. If you have any other comments or questions, feel free
    to contact us.

    Sincerely,

    Jon
    National Consumer Affairs
    Nissan North America, Inc.



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  • cb70cb70 Posts: 226
    XTrail would fit a niche that XTerra does not fill and would crush the competition.
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