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2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)
http://www.cheap-auto-car-insurance-quotes.net/g-article01.html"* How many miles has the vehicle been driven (the average is about 10,000 to 12,000 miles per year)?"
The most mileage I have seen on a lease special is 15,000 miles per year. But of course this IS Edmunds where people can't understand the difference between a feature and a glitch even though every Honda behaves the same.
I guess it's a glitch Hondas require Honda specific power steering fluid. Or that all Hondas before this engine series ran in the reverse direction than most other cars. Or that Honda CD players don't display the time on the CD's. Nope not glitches. Just the way they designed em. Don't like it, don't buy it.
Every thing is based on averages. I know there are people that drive 100,000 mile in a year. But they aren't the average.
So you are right there is no point to debate anything with a bot. Mainly because the bot will only use facts and not personal anecdotes that can't stand up to logic.
Even a saleswoman??? and a driver of a 1994 Lexus can use facts to debunk someone who says a GTI is reliable? Compared to a Honda? Get real.
or check any other reliability survey.
You buy a VW you take your chances.
Si's have ABS,and EBD, side airbags are available if you want em(the only option), cruise, keyless, and 5 star safety front and 4 star side without side airbags. So much for tin can.
How is the GTI a stellar success if VW can't sell more cars than Hyundai anymore? They sell more Civics than they sell VW's as a whole.
Like I said in another forum. Anecdotes mean nothing when they aren't based on fact. I can show proof that VW's are NOT reliable, the SI is not a "tin can", the SI has reasonable content at it's price point especially since it has only one option, there is a significant number of horror stories littering the web about VW's in general, in fact the Beetle is a used car "to avoid" according to CR, and the link above shows VW's reliability as lacking compared to most.
Here's another link from the site...Direct comparison to Honda. Of course the latest data is 1998 but I doubt the such a large divide will be made up that quickly.http://www.autooninfo.net/ReliabilityPercentranksVolkswagen.htm
Thank god for simple basic cars that seem to have just as many features as the awesome great VW's. I think I would rather turn on my own windshield wipers and adjust my own heat.
2001 Sporty Segment- winner is VW GTI
quote- Volkswagen models continue to do well in the study, with the Beetle setting the APEAL standard for compact cars every year since its introduction in 1998. The Jetta ranks highest for the third year in a row in the entry midsize car segment, and the GTI ranks most appealing in the sporty car segment.
2001 winners in compact segment were VW Beetle and VW Golf.
In midsize VW Jetta
VW's are recognized for design and execution as well as being recognized for being below average in quality.
Where is Honda in this list? Only the Odyssey is present.
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