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Toyota Echo Maintenance and Repair

nnbnnb Posts: 3
Has anyone experienced that the clutch is kind of slow to release during quick upshifting? Also while driving in hwy with 4th gear around 75 mph, then floor the gas, the clutch is slipping. Any one with any info are welcome. Thanks.
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  • My 2000 echo is going in tomorrow to figure out the problem with my slipping clutch.

    2 years old 90% highway mileage with 30,000km (18,000 miles)

    started to slip at highway speeds when I went to pass and is now slipping in all gears.

    Dealer says probably wear due to bad driving (must control fists)

    other car is at 180,000km (108,000miles) on first clutch and previous honda civic was good for 120,000 between clutch jobs.

    Apparently the clutch is non-adjustable and will cost about $800-$1000 CDN to replace.

    They better find a defect and cover it or there will be many unpleasant conversations with Toyota coming up.

    Please post if you are experiencing clutch problems.
  • nnbnnb Posts: 3
    Please let me know what the dealer finds out. I just took my car to the dealer this morning, they said they didn't find anything wrong. Actually the clutch wasn't slipping too bad today. It was slipping badly last week when the weather was cold. It seem like it has something to do woth temperature too.
  • kaz6kaz6 Posts: 331
    20k and so far so good...I live in Los Angeles and have horrific traffic to deal with. Aside from very long throws and a stubborn reverse it's fine.
    My last car, a Ford ZX-2, had 70k of similar driving conditions and the clutch was fine. Sounds fishy to me!
  • Hi there -- Many posts ago there was mention of people getting the "original" hubcaps on the 2000 Echo replaced with a different design that did not have a "whistling" sound. There was some specific tricks to getting the Dealer to replace it at no charge, though.
    Does anyone remember what this was specifically?

    (I have a 2000 Silver 4 door, drove it all the way down from Victoria, BC to Durham, NC ! Terrific 3,800 mile road trip vehicle!!)

    Thanks!
  • krakatokrakato Posts: 30
    Oops -- I posted this on the other Echo list and realize that this list is a better place for it!

    This is the very FIRST problem I've had with this wonderful car!

    Here's what happens. First thing in the morning when I start the car up all is well. The blue "cool engine light" is still on as I back out of the driveway and drive down one block -- everything operates as normal. But after stopping at the corner and beginning to turn right, when I press the pedal to accelerate through the turn, there is a significant pause with little engine power and I have to pump the accelerator to get the car through the turn and accelerating normally again. It seems to happen primarily when I am making a turn -- although once I had trouble getting full power after stopping at a stop sign and then going straight. This only happens after the car has been sitting overnight or for a long time and the blue cool engine light goes on when I start it up.

    Has anything like this happened to anyone else in your ECHO? I'm going to take it into the dealer to check it out, but wondered if anyone on this great board has any ideas or suggestions about what is going on?

    Thanks!
  • rforbesrforbes Posts: 1
    Hi! I'm from Australia and recently bought a new 3 door Echo hatch back manual with 1.3L engine. I had a Mazda 121 sedan for 9 years. It was a great little car. I am peeved with the Echo. It is full of rattles, in the doors, in the dash, the rear. It is driving me bananas. I have spent days trying to find and fix them but it does no good.
    Another problem is with the steering. It has power and minor road bumps are transmitted up through the steering wheel. I was spoilt with the Mazda for sure.
    Has anyone had these problems? It looks like this model isn't sold in the US but I wondered if the 4 door behaves like this
    Regards
    rforbes
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,685
    What you are describing is a classic case of the EGR valve sticking open. But that usually happens to cars with a lot of miles on them. Have Toyota look at it and let us know what they say.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,685
    No, my car does none of those things, nor have I heard of another one doing them. Perhaps you should have Toyota look the car over.
  • kaz6kaz6 Posts: 331
    the only rattles I have are from the lock buttons in the doors. It's only when it's cool out as the heat of the day makes the plastic expand so it is snug. Even running 205/50/15's on mine don't bring out any rattles or squeaks!
  • krakatokrakato Posts: 30
    Thanks kneisl1 -- my car is in the shop now. Had a frustrating round with the service department yesterday who said they couldn't find the problem and said everything was fine, but finally I got an asst manager who really listened to me and drove the car again after it cooled down for several hours and experienced it -- they are trying to figure out what's wrong now. But this is my Echo's second day in the shop because the first crew couldn't find the problem. Very frustrating. I'll let you know what they say.
  • slimtexslimtex Posts: 4
    My wife has a 2001 Echo and recently while driving on the interstate for 2 and a half hours at 65 to 70 the air conditioner progressively cooled less and less. Talking to the dealer he says that Toyota has not had ANY reports of air conditioning problems on the Echo. He checked the regional office and the California national office. To me the experience was dismal and a big surprise as I think the world of Toyota. By the time we got home there was hardly any cooling at all. Has anyone else had such a problem? Thanks for any comments. PS the car has less than 4,000 miles on it.
  • cwo4cwo4 Posts: 90
    You can check the past links and find many entries on weak AC and wrapping of pipes etc. We owned a 2000 ECHO that did the same thing. I took it to the Toyota dealer 3 or 4 times. They never did fix it completely, even after replacing components. I think the system is too weak to cool that large of a space and is a trade off for great fuel economy. I also think the designers figured the car would be an urban commuter, not a highway cruiser. My wife and I put on 50,000 miles a year, travelling to visit kids and grandkids. We eventually traded the ECHO, primarily for that reason. We now have a VW Jetta TDI (Diesel). Great milage, 50 mpg, strong AC and no complaints. Toyota is aware of the AC issue, but won't change it. They should. It's a great car for seniors too.
  • slimtexslimtex Posts: 4
    Thanks to cwo4 for the info on his 2000 and that after 3 to 4 visits to the dealer he still had the problem. Anyone else out there have the problem in my previous post? I can't believe that only two of us have had this problem. I am wondering if when you are going 65 to 70mph then the compressor cuts out like when you accelerate to pass a car. Frankly I'm looking for fuel to get the attention of Toyota. Thanks for any help. I am still high on Toyota products, also have a Sequoia, but this one gets to me.
  • mltomekmltomek Posts: 24
    i had a 2000 echo, traded it for a 2001 rav-4, and missed the echo so much got a 2002 echo which i AM keeping.

    point is this, the a/c was weak or so it felt in my 2000 echo---my 2002 is much stronger---my brother's 2000 echo is weaker than my 2002 echo's a/c and about the same in my 2000 echo. maybe it was model year 2000.

    it wasn't unbearable but the instant u turned it off the car was hot again. i was always comfortable--but i am more comfortable in my 2002 echo---stronger air it seems.

    i love my echo---best car i have ever had!!! my brother thinks so too!!

    mike
  • krakatokrakato Posts: 30
    Hooray, my ECHO has been fixed! (see my earlier post on cool engine acceleration problem). It took some time in the shop to be resolved because it has been so hot here in Tucson that the engine would not stay cold long enough to allow the technician/computer to diagnose the problem. (We've had 15 straight days with temps > 105 degrees!) Finally they were able to figure out what was causing the strange behavior: a faulty "mass airflow sensor." If I understand it correctly, this sensor monitors the air going into the intake and the car's computer uses the reading to decide whether to add air or fuel. My car's sensor was giving faulty readings when the engine was cool (blue light on). So they replaced the sensor and everything is working great now. It's wonderful to have my ECHO back after several days without it!
  • peacock79peacock79 Posts: 1
    I just bought a 2002 Echo (black, 4-door) 3 days ago. I love it so far, it has less than 60 miles on it, but am experiencing a problem already. The malfunction indicator light stays on when I start the engine and won't shut off. Has anyone experienced this problem when their car was brand new? I am taking it to the service department tomorrow, hopefully it is nothing major.
  • I've had my Echo since may 17, 2002. It's a 2Dr, Auto, with A/C. I now have about 2,900 Miles on it. I generally love it, but have to admit I'm a bit disappointed in the gas mileage, and don't know if I should be or not. My daily drive is about 40 Miles, mixed Highway and City in NYC, with LOTS of stop and go and lots of highway jam ups. I'd say I use the A/C about 60% of the time, so far. I have been getting on average, about 28 MPG. On a Trip To Maryland, which was about 90% Highway driving, all with the A/C, I got about 36 MPG. My service dept guy said, "well that's NYC for you. He doesn't think it's abnormal, but from reading posts and reviews here and elsewhere, it definitely seems like I'm on the EXTREME low end of what I should be getting? Any suggestions? Any Solutions?
  • sluglineslugline Posts: 391
    Based on what you just wrote, I don't see anything wrong. I think the auto ECHO has EPA ratings of 31/38, and you're not that far off. If you read the FAQ at www.fueleconomy.gov, you can find out more about how they test. I don't believe that the "city" simulation includes any stop-and-go, just stoplight-to-stoplight driving.
  • kaz6kaz6 Posts: 331
    I have a 4-door w/5-spd and do an 11 mile (each way) commute through Beverly Hills in California.
    The commute is very hard on the car as it involves a lot of hard starts and stops and lot's of idle time in rush hour. If I use the A/C and drive during the rush hour times I get between 28-32mpg. The 11 mile trip can take as long as 45 minutes!
    I had a Ford ZX-2 prior to my ECHO and it got as low as 17mpg on the same route!!!
    Make sure your tires are inflated properly as even 1lb of pressure off can lower mileage considerably.
  • kellyd2kellyd2 Posts: 1
    Hi, I have a 2002 Echo. I really like my car, but I have found one problem that's driving me crazy. When I want a window down instead of using the AC, the vacuum created is going to rupture my eardrum one of these days. The only way to get around it is to open all the windows, all the way. Anybody else have this problem or know of how to fix it?
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