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Mazda RX-8



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  • lhesslhess Posts: 379
    Was at the DC car show over the weekend and the only 8 they had was a Shinka. It was a lighter color than the black cherry (more just burgundy or maroon) and they had it tagged as a 2007. It was a hot display with a line of people a mile long waiting to get in it.

    Saw nothing at the car show that tempted me. Now, of course, we'd all have something truly obnoxious if we had unlimited amounts of money (a Bentley or something). But, when it comes down to looks, pricing, performance, and practicality - nothing there beat my Rex. Almost a year now and I still love it!!
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "Was at the DC car show over the weekend and the only 8 they had was a Shinka. It was a lighter color than the black cherry (more just burgundy or maroon) and they had it tagged as a 2007."


    I've heard rumors of an anticipated Copper Red color for the '06 cars (and possibly that it would be available only for the Shinka Edition).

    Is it possible that the car you saw was a Copper Red RX-8?
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,706
    The following cars interested me greatly:
    - The VW 3 wheel roadster. *blink* Wow. They threw AWAY the box in the design department. Going to be made, evidently, and under $20K.
    - The Volvo concept. 2+1 seems a no-brainer for small cars, especially hybrids and sportscars(350Z comes to mind - no real reason it doesnt have a trunk or a back seat)
    - The Lotus Elise. Sexy looking. Fast. Maybe someday affordable, even.
    - The Toyota FJ(though it was ruled out due to being too flimsy to survive real 4*4ing, even if it was armored a lot aftermarket)
    - The Honda Fit(though it wasn't there the day I was)
    - The RX-8. Same car - essentially unchanged, other than the automatic.
    - The Ford GT-40. Wow.
    - And my one drool at it car. The Saleen.

    There are lots of interesting cars at auto shows. :)
  • The G-35 coup and sedan are both very nice cars and fun to drive with the manual transmission.The nissan v6 engine is one of the very best.The clutch and the shifter are a bit heavy and tight.The low rpm horsepower feels exhilarating on the street.Its a quality auto and easy to maintain.The RX8 is unique--its rotary engine is the most powerful for its size.Its power comes at hi rpm--which makes it a pussycat and a tiger.Drive it normally with its easy clutch and smooth shifting gearbox and grandma would enjoy it. Bring up the rpm to 6500 and use its gears and it becomes an exhilarating driving experience.Both cars are very capable--but the rx8 puts a bigger smile on your face.
  • lhesslhess Posts: 379
    Bingo on the color rorr... some pics of it are posted on the forum which is the name of this (since we get our hands smacked for mentioning such things). It was the copper red. Didn't do much for me, I prefer the black cherry for the shinka. But, not bad.
  • I think that I'm ready for my very own RX-8. My dilemma is, buy now or wait. Currently I can get an AT loaded for around $4500 under sticker with rebate. When the 2006's arrive, I doubt if there will be incentives like this. Is the 6 sp AT and 15HP worth a few months and a few grand? This is my dilemma. Any suggestions?
  • trispectrispec Posts: 305
    I am so totally waiting for the 2006 RX-8 AT 6 speed to hit the show room. When those 2006s hit in March, watch the 2005 AT drop like a stone. I'm trying to get my wife into one of those last 2005 ATs. I think a Grand Touring 2005 RX-8 AT could go for $22K.

    Am I right or wrong? I am on the prowl though. Watching inventories.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    Is the 6 sp AT and 15HP worth a few months and a few grand?

    In my opinion? Absolutely. I think adding 2 gears could help a TREMENDOUS amount in acceleration and gas mileage. Not to mention the fun of having 2 more gears to access with the paddles.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • trispectrispec Posts: 305
    Hang-on there. The 4 sp AT already has overdrive on 3rd and 4th gear. The gas millage number for the highway 25MPG is not going to change. The gas millage for the city might be better, but I doubt seriously whether those two gears will do much more than improve the full power acceleration.

    Now as for the fun of paddle shifting to maximize the power of the engine at all times then absolutely yes, 6 speed is way better than 4 speed. Unfortunately here in Boston, you can never drive an RX-8 even close to full power. So gimmee a 4 speed AT for a $7000 discount any day.
  • Bought a 2005 RX-8 Shinka two weeks ago (gave up waiting for the 2006), and immediately outfitted it with winter tires.

    I found a great tire shop in Chicago (Nortown Automotive), and got this advice from the manager at the store:

    1) You don't really need to buy a 2nd set of wheels for your snow tires. If you go to a tire shop that has quality mounting equipment and good mechanics, mounting and unmounting summer and winter tires will not hurt them.

    2) On a performance car, avoid all-seasons. Get some proper winter ties.

    3) Avoid Avons. They are not in the same quality class as Bridgstones and Dunlops.

    I put Dunlop Winter Sport M3's on my car. If we ever get snow this winter, I'll post a review. :)

    On dry and wet roads, they seem fine--though, of course, 'softer' than the stock Potenza summer tires.

  • trispectrispec Posts: 305
    It's basically the chemistry of the rubber compounds and tire design. Summer performance tire rubber is harder. Winter tires are soft. Summer performance maximize the surface of the tire that actually in contact with the road surface. Winter tire design maximizes grip by digging into snow and ice.

    All seasons, like the Avons, give up 10% performance on either end for better tread wear (360) and better economy (gas mileage actual 25 MPG highway and tire cost $139ea).

    I'll sell my stock Potenza summer tires (4K miles on them) for $100ea. Split the shipping. My e-mail is
  • I owned an '83 with the 12A engine and loved it. It's been a long time, but I am interested in the RX8. I love the idea of room for 4 even if it's just short trips. On Sunday I drove to the loacl dealer to go for a test drive. I'm lookng at pre-owned as my budget is 22k plus tax. Unfortunately, I have to look at autos because of left knee problems which cause my knee to freeze occasionally with the opertaion movement of a clutch. But I desperately want some driver input, so I'm only interested with automatics that allow the driver some shift inout. I've narrowed my search to the RX8 and Mini CooperS auto. I have the worst luck. I went to the local Mazda dealer to go for a test drive. He had 2 autos. BUT, believe it or not, they couldn't get to the keys because the keys were in the "detail" dept and they're closed Sundays so no one could get the keys! They did have one of the keyless entries for one car so I got to sit in it and check out the trunk and all.

    I have one question about the seats. These were electric. Is there a way to manually flip the seat forward? The salesman said no. You have to use the switch to s l o w l y tilt it forward to get in the back. This makes no sense but I couldn't find a release.

    Does anyone have an auto? I'd love to hear form you about your opinions. I hope to go for a test drive in the next few weeks.

    Ron B.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,706
    The passenger side flips forward some, but the drivers side is what you get. OTOH, unless you are too large to fit in the rear seats, the half-door should easily swing open more than enough.

    In a word, the RX-8 blows the doors off the Cooper S. It's a coupe-looking sports sedan. Based upon looks alone, most auto magazines unfairly match it in tests with a 350Z. The RX-8 does 85-90% as well, desipite not even being made to be a real sportscar.

    Revs instantly, has gobs of power - imagine a Ninja 500 or simmilar with four wheels and A/C. Drive it like a sportsbike and it's awesome. (ie - don't drive it like a normal car as the power band is in the 5000 rpm+ range.)
  • A Grand Touring AT for $22K? That's $10 under sticker. Do you really think that this will ever be the case? Someone mentioned $7K under sticker, that would be sweet as well. Do you think that they would ever drop even that much?
  • The new Shinka is supposed to become available in late April, so potentially that is why it is listed as an 07 right now. It comes in Copper Red, snowflake, black, and (I think) Galaxy Gray. You can only get Copper Red in a Shinka.

    For whoever liked the Lotus Elise, very uncomfortable ride. They have no concept of cushioning on the seats. It's like sitting on a folding chair!!! I don't think anyone would want one that had to do much driving.
  • trispectrispec Posts: 305
    Well in the Mazda inventory search at several dealers, the Grand Touring RX-8 AT MSRP lists at $29K. Obviously a $7K discount is optimistic, but as the opening bid in a negotiations, it seems a fairly reasonable place to start.

    But there are stories about really big price drops on 2004 models last year when the 2005 models actually arrived. Dealers have lots of incentives to move out the older stock.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,895
    The gas millage number for the highway 25MPG is not going to change.

    well, we'll see how it all translates into real-world mixed-driving mileage. Could be significant (or might not change, like you said). Its going to depend alot, of course, on driving habits, conditions, etc. In any case, the 6-speed should have POTENTIAL for improved mileage.

    So gimmee a 4 speed AT for a $7000 discount any day.

    the original poster said a few grand. At $7k, i'd also have to give it serious thought. Then again, even at those savings, you couldn't get me to buy a 4-speed AT. It would absolutely have to be the stick.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • I picked up my blue '05 RX8 a few weeks ago for just about 7k under sticker. It has the 1GT package and the spare tire. This is in the DC Metro area. Some of the dealers are offering discounts on some weekends, but not all of them.

    what a sweet car this is!
  • trispectrispec Posts: 305
    Having rationalized the purchase of an RX-8 AT 4 speed for such a long time now, it's a mental game to even think about 6 speeds AT or MT. The main question would seem to be did the ratios of 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th get within 1000 RPM of each other. Right now 1st, 2nd and 3rd plus over drive are about 1200 RPM apart. 4th with it's over drive seems to equal 5th and 6th on the six speeds.

    Right now 1st will go to 50MPH, 2nd to 70MPH, 3rd to 110MPH and 4th goes to 140MPH (never been there though). It'd be nice to see the numbers for the 6 speeds.
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