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Mazda RX-8



  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    Better reliability, much better gas mileage what else? The trick this car is pulling is competing with 3 series more than with sport coupes. It will be more grown up than a sport coupe, still have all the performance (and more with rwd) but have more room inside than a 3 series sedan. What more do you need! This is not (as mazda has said also) the next rx-7. It is not meant to be the same car. But with 250hp from a what 1.6-1.8 liter naturally aspirated engine, that is pretty remarkable if you ask me.

    Not too many Americans these days are willing to buy a car that is completely impractical like most sports cars are (except those who have more than one car, but you can't count on them too much for sales or you will probably fall short). Mazda is betting that (excuse my cliche) those of us who want to have our cake and eat it too will go for a car like this. I sure would.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Yup, the current RX-7 could not meet the US emission standard and it was getting too pricey. The Renesis has about as much horsepower as the older RX-7 with twin turbo. I wouldn't be surprise if the RX-8 will be as fast as the old RX-7. However, the next generation RX-7 might make the Corvette Z06 sweat.

    Right, I think that the RX-7 would be impractical for me in the future and the RX-8 would make it competitive with the sports sedans, even better perhaps.
  • ambullambull Posts: 255
    I just did some research on the 1993 RX-7. It had 255 hp and 217 ft lbs of torque and could do 0-60 in 4.9 sec. There is no way the RX-8 will be able to do that with 50 ft lbs less torque. The best we could hope for is 6 seconds, but the handling should be great and the utility pretty good.
    I read an article in the paper before Christmas which said the RX-8 had a lot more room in it for 6-footers than the 350Z does, both in the front and back. This is as important to me as the sheer performance.
    Also, the RX-7 base price was $31,300, which is more than the RX-8's ten years later - pretty good.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Well, your 0-60 number is lower than the average. I've seen around 5.2 seconds. Anyway, a sub 6 second range would be right for the RX-8. I am sure that I won't be disappointed by the handling and the room. One thing that I do want is HID. It would make a sportscar look sharp at night.

    Just from memory... I think that only the third generation RX-7 used turbo. Turbo was the only problem when my brother had his car.
  • ambullambull Posts: 255
    My 0-60 time came from early newspaper reviews which were all the same time which probably means they were using a number given out by Mazda rather than testing it themselves. Real-world times may have been a little longer. I'm pretty sure the second generation had a turbo as an option, but it wasn't the same as the sequential turbos introduced for 1993.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Yup, it seems that the pre-production numbers are usually more optimistic. Still, the 3rd generation was leaps and bounds better than the previous generations in every aspect. I'll let others go crazy over the Z while I wait for the RX-8 or the RX-7 (less likely to buy the RX-7 though).
  • There was a second gen turbo.

    where do you get your price projection? I swear I've been seeing numbers in the low thirties.
  • ambullambull Posts: 255
    Okay, the rumors are flying on this one. Mazda said it will be less than $37,000, but others have said around $30,000 to as low as $25,000. I'm hoping for under $30,000 but I obviously don't know.
    Did anyone catch exactly when this thing will be released? I've heard after the 6 intro, so that would make it next year sometime?
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    I read in automobile mag that the price is supposed to be under 29k as well. I forgot if they mentioned it in the streaming video on their web site though. It should be released near the end of next year???
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    april 2003 is the most updated sale date.

  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    I seen from a recent autoshow that this base price was supposed to be like $26,900. Most equipped would run about $31k though. I'll keep looking for the link!
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Posts: 419
    Hmmm.. I'd probably wait for the second year of production... so 2004 I might have a new ride :)

    Price - that would be great if the pricing is under 30k. Insurance won't be a factor for me after I'm married... maybe wife factor will be though.. yikes!
  • I don't know why you guys keep mentioning torque. I think the acceleration could be nearly as fast, and I'm thinking the car will be a winner. Plus, I heard a 6-speed sequential manual is the standard transmission, although I could be wrong.
  • csuftitanscsuftitans Posts: 215
    According to Sam Mitani, a R&T mag editor who test drove the latest version of RX8 in japan, the car weight 2970lbs, with 250HP, 162 lb -ft, 0-60mph in 6sec, 1/4mile in 14.5sec and will be priced at $26,000 base. 50/50 weights distribution and 90% of torque available at 3250rpm, not bad.
    While I was reading this mag, my wife commented on the cars look as being very Ferrari like and she said that we can have one if we have enough extra money, Woohoo!!

  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    RX8, WRX, EVO, I bet the magazines are gearing up for the shootout already :)
  • I have the new R&T article and the RX-8 looks great. It looks great without out any wierd modern-hey-lets-try-to-be-different things. The head lights don't run half way to the windshield (like the 350Z) and the back of the trunk is close to don't get the droopy but effect. The interior looks great too. Nothing too over that top and the little rotor designs (on seat and gear shifter) are pretty cool. Looking forward to its release. 9000 RPM redline sounds like alot of fun too!
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    Anybody heard about the price yet?
    Anybody put a deposit down on one of these?
  • That is still good weight. I really really really like the RX8 but something is bothering me. Consistantly all past mazda rotery's had lots of engine problems and burned oil. I really hope this one is different because I love the double doors, and the styiling both inside and out. But that idea of the bad rotery (which makes sence because auto makers dont have as much experience with the rotery) keeps clawing at the back of my mind. If it still has good ratings 2 or 3 years after it comes out I may buy one.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Mazda tells us the car will be in the 26-32K range....but nothing solid yet.

    Saw it yesterday at the NY auto show. It looks even better in person. The RX-8 looks a little stubby in the pics but in person it does not appear that way.

  • I owned an 81 RX7, which carried me through my senior year of high school and college. Never had mechanical trouble, and don't remember adding oil between changes. I loaned it to my sixteen year old sister (at my father's request) until he could find her a "suitable" car to drive. 10 days later, TOTALED. 120K miles, but running fine, until it hit that Olds traveling 70 MPH. Everyone was fine, but my rotary engined car was gone.

    Looking forward to another fine, normally aspirated rotary soon. (I really do miss it).
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