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Mazda RX-8



  • Hey, some of us need a minivan and we're not all idiots. I love my Protege, and drive it whenever I can (215,000 miles so far). But there are times when I need my minivan too. I'm on my third one now: '85 Vanagon, then '93 Eurovan, now '03 Odyssey. The leading candidates to replace the Protege are the RX-8 or Honda S-2000. BTW, the Odyssey is the performance minivan.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,892
    "That's the bad thing about pride I guess. It easily overrides common sense."

    G35...oh, how true that is.....

    C&D also called the RX8 "magical" (their term, not mine).
  • carlikercarliker Posts: 285
    mazdafun - "fairly comparable" I don't think so. The Viper (two seater exotic) is nothing like the Mercedes AMG. The RX-8 and STI are nice cars for their price, but compared to a Viper or high end Mercedes? C'mon. There is no comparison. Even on the best value side of things, the Viper is a decent value compared to other high performance exotics. The SSR in that category is just down right silly, too.

    claytondennis - No such thing as a "performance minivan". I know that the Honda salesperson probably told you that it was to get you to buy it. Better hurry up and get that RX-8! There is absolutely no reason why minivans need to exist --- SUVs look better, are faster, have off road capability and can carry the same cargo. Plus, most don't even ride like a truck these days and gas mileage is improving. Perhaps I'll agree with you concerning "performance minivan" when either Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Infiniti decides to make one.
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    This needs to be discussed on another section, however, go look at an Odyssey, for example. You can carry 4X8 sheets in there. Nothing like a SUV. Each vehicle has its' purpose.
  • carlikercarliker Posts: 285
    Since when can't an SUV carry 4x8 sheets?

    Anyway, has the gas mileage improved for the RX-8 over time for those who have it for a few months now?
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,892
    My MPG has steadily improved as I've gone past 3K miles. I'm getting exactly what my sticker says I should be getting....18 MPG in town and 24 MPG on the highway. I'm getting 19 MPG in "mixed" driving.
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    I finally test drove the RX-8 and I am very impressed.

    I was expecting that the engine would have to be revved really high to get any power like in most 4 cylinder sporty cars I have driven. It wasn't like that at all, the car pulled strongly thoughout the rev range (and there were 4 people in the car!). The brakes felt really good and the pedal was very responsive. The steering was sharp and direct. I would prefer maybe a little more communication, but comparitvely it had better feel than any new car I have been in. Handling of course was beautiful, you can really feel how balanced the car is on the first bend you enter. It felt very solid as well and the build quality is superb.

    imo Mazda did a bang up job. I think this is the most attractive 30k sports car on the market right now. If I could afford one I would be tempted...
  • my update sounds like a broken record - I, too, am getting what the sticker said after 4000 miles. Mine is the AT version, but shouldn't make a difference anyway....

    Also, while others here <cough>GGuy<cough> may drive at top speed, I prefer to take curves at above the posted speed - I made a new personal record tonight. I took a local, posted 25MPH Off-ramp/Cloverleaf exit at 62mph.....I love this car.......
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    OT but....

    "Since when can't an SUV carry 4x8 sheets?"

    My wife's 4runner certainly qualifies as an SUV but the only way I could carry a 4x8 sheet is after 2 passes with a table saw; one rip cut and one cross cut. I think you have to get up to Expedition/Sequoia/Suburban territory before you get 4x8 capability.....
  • Greater Boston received its first snow storm. Happy to report that RX8 did fine on partially cleaned or uncleaned roads with Blizzak snow tires. The car slides sideways a bit on uncleaned roads or roads that have deep snow (& muck) ridges from traffic. But it all feels very controllable and the car does not slide or spin out of hand.

    Only problem - don't like how those ridges sound against the underside of my car. Hope no lasting damage - will have underbody washed more often.
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    The RX-8 handles beautifully. It is very confidence inspiring and adjustable mid-corner, but that doesn't mean it would beat any other car in a bend.

    The EVO, for example, has such an awesome level of grip that most cars twice it's price can't keep up. CAR magazine called it possibly the fastest point-A to point-B car ever produced. It is interesting to note that after stating this, they choose the contender as the champion of this particular comparison test. The EVO may have been the fastest car, but the other car proved a more rewarding driving experience an thus got the nod (that was a BMW M3).

    I have had more fun going the speed limit through a bend in a Miata than I have had going much faster through the same corner in a more powerful car. Maybe it is not how fast you are actually going as much as it is how fast you feel like you are going that matters. This kind of sums up the RX-8 driving experience to me. It felt much like a bigger, faster Miata, which is a big compliment to the suspension tuners at Mazda.
  • carlikercarliker Posts: 285
    My point was that a mid size SUV (Trailblazer, Explorer, etc.) could basically carry the same amount of cargo as a minivan thus making minivans useless in my opinion. If a minivan can carry those 4x8 sheets, then I know a Trailblazer or Honda Pilot could.

    gkouris - I'm going to have to agree with geecoupe on this one...and you can say the same about your races against the 350Z and Mustang GT.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    But then again it's all about power and weight. My 95' GS300 does 142 and my 94' LS does 150 (according to the mags) so make sure you know who you are against. And I don't mean just the cars.
  • All posts referencing illegal street racing have been deleted and will be deleted in the future, so don't go there, okay? (as per Town Hall rules)

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  • gee35coupe-- Don't get me wrong, I totally respect the Civic Si, its a sweet ride....especially for the price.

    But the reality of the matter is this: my RX-8 has more power and torque at all RPM levels and I redline alot higher than you. You are really pushing the civic to get to 130mph, its your top speed....i wouldnt say its "easy".

    PS: Does anyone know about Fords rev limiter? I think Ford puts that cursed Rev Limiter on all its cars(including Mazdas) except the

    Mr Shift right-- I will refrain from talking about racing, we are just talking about car specs right now, thats all..sorry
  • Okay, thanks very much!
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    The trip up to redline in fifth is amazingly short. And even more so when you consider the redline is a "low" 6800 rpm. It's not really stressed at all. The car won't go any faster than 130 since it's at redline, but getting there is not a problem since that's where the horsepower is.

    Kinda like the last 300ZX Turbo, it redlined at 165 or so. Any mod for it only made it quicker unless you messed with the rev limiter.
  • evaddaveevaddave Posts: 156
    There is no way an SUV could carry as much cargo as a similarly-sized minivan. By the time you throw in the increased ride height and the 4/AWD driveline, you've eaten up a serious chunk of cargo capacity. Our MPV has about the same exterior dimensions as our Grand Cherokee, but the MPV can haul *way* more stuff.
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    Although max cargo load in weight is much higher in most SUVs. Hey both vehicles make sense for different jobs. A mini-van is better for moving people/driving around town, and the SUV is better for towing/hauling.


    Back to the subject.
  • carlikercarliker Posts: 285
    Though I'll never reconize the mini-van as having any purpose, it's time to bring this discussion to a close.

    I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned the stereo system in the RX-8. I thought that was one of the best parts about the vehicle. The sound was fantastic.
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