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Saab 9-3 Sedan

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  • saabgirlsaabgirl Posts: 184
    Under warranty, right? Have the dealer take a look. Ask about switching to synthetic. When I switched to synthetic in my manual trans shifts were much smoother.
  • I recently purchased a 2006 9-3 Aero and I love it. One question......does anyone know if you can work with an aftermarket electronics provider to use the phone button on the steering wheel or the keypad and phone buttons on the dash?

    Thanks!
  • I'm torn between going with a 2006 Saab 9-3 and a 2006 Volvo S40 T5. They both seem to have fairly similar performance, features, and price. Any thoughts on why to go for a Saab 9-3 over the Volvo S40? I'm leaning towards the Volvo S40 since it seems like it has better reliability and safety (although Saab seems pretty close to Volvo in safety). Thanks for the help.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    I looked at these soem time back and my overall conclusion was that saab was better for the more base cars, the volvo when loaded with features. Now that saab has the v6 and awd, this may no longer be true.

    I also think th 9-3 is a safer car than the s40.
  • The most important difference for me was the added cargo space in the SAAB.

    I have the feature of rear seats that fold forward. I'm very happy with my decision.
  • I'm on the negotiations step of getting as used 9-3. Car was advertised for 17,000. I was told I could buy it for that price, or pay an extra for the "Saab Certification."
    My question is: Is the certification at an extra cost? It was advertised as a certified car for $17,000. Did I misunderstand? Does that mean it's ABLE to be certified?

    Thanks
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    Don't fall for this pricing ploy!!!!The car is advertised as certified at that price......then the price is for a"certified car" not a "certifiable" car.This dealer is playing fast and loose with the certification procedure and the fact that is a two step process.In order for the car to be sold as a certified car it must go through a thorough diagnostic check and meet Saabs standards regarding brake wear,tire tread etc.Once it is compliant with these standards it is eligible for sale as a certified car.The 2nd part of the procedure ,and this is where the dealer is being a little "skeevy",is the reporting the cars sale to you as a certified car.This is when the car is now in the national data base enabling you to take it to any Saab dealer for covered warranty services.The dealer is charged $1,200.00 for this official certification.This charge should NOT be passed on to you if the car was advertised as a certified car.If the dealer continues his ruse tell him to discount the car an amount equal to his certification cost,$1,200.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • hey if you do find somthing let me know i just got a new saab 9-3 arow 07' and i cant get that to work and its killing me also id love instal a gps unit that i was unabel to get in the car the first time i was thinking about ordering one from eurip becas the phone buton works over there ... it seams that this problim shod be ez since the cts-v come with its own phone line
  • Ok, I’ve decided to buy a Saab and was originally looking at the 2005s, and honestly between the test drives, I almost liked the Linear more than I did the Arc, is there something I’m missing? I know it has less HP and unless you get the premium package (which I would want) a somewhat crappy stereo and no power seats, but it was still a sweet little ride and cheaper. The only downside is that my dealer doesn’t have any Linear’s on the lot, so after some discussion, he just called to tell me if I can do it by the end of the month, he will get me in a Arc for the price of a Linear, so my question to all of you is, how much is reasonable. After doing some looking around, it looked like I could get a 2005 CPO Linear (38K miles) for around 17K, so is that what I should shoot for in a loaded up Arc or is that just unheard of? Is the Arc that much better? Any help is appreciated-Thanks!
  • shihanbshihanb Posts: 17
    I have a 2005 Saab 9-3 and just found out that I have to replace the rear brakes. The kicker is that my car only has 23K miles on it and the front brakes are fine. The service manager told me that Saab "tweaked" the brakes to reduce pad dust and improve braking at the expense of the rear brakes wearing out prematurely. This is a bummer, especially since the dealer wants over $500 just to replace the pads and surface the rotors (they are not rusted, they are otherwise ok).

    Has anyone else had this problem? I am going to complain about this to SAAB.
  • I too, have a 2005 Saab, 9-3. I needed to have one of the heads replaced, due to excessive leaks.

    I have slightly under 30K miles. This is not good news.

    If anyone else has leaks--especially if you're still under warranty, TAKE CARE OF IT RIGHT AWAY.

    I'd also like to know. Thanks
  • waterdrwaterdr Posts: 307
    Brake wear is a wierd thing. I JUST had my rears done yesterday....$450.00. This included new pads and new rotors. I got 50k out of the rears. I am on my second set of fronts. The rears should last twice as long as the fronts....if the rears are wearing faster, then the brakes are not properly balamced.

    BTW, re-surfacing the rotors is nearly a waste of time on the Saab. The rotors are soft and they get thin fast. I can guarentee that by not replacing the rear rotors, they will warp and fail a lot faster. I know brakes......but, I am also not looking at the car right now. Just speaking from generalities. Make sure they tell you using a caliper how thick they are after the re-surface compared to design spec.

    BTW, Saab brakes parts are hard to find cheap. However, you can buy the rear rotors and pads for about $175 (depending on what wheel size you have) and then install yourself or find a cheap garage to do it.

    http://www.saabpartsdirect.com/

    I recomend calling them first BEFORE ordering brakes as each model and wheel size is different on a Saab. This is GREAT pasrt site for any Saab owner.

    I had the dealer install mine this time since they did a bunch of "free" work for me. Long story short, that while they charges me $450 for the brakes, I got them to do a free rotation and a free tranny flush, so I figured the brakes only really cost $300 or $325.
  • swinkswink Posts: 4
    I am currently shopping '05 and '06 9-3's. From what I can tell, they're a great value car (LOTS of safety features, decent gas mileage, drive well, sporty look etc.) Why is it then, when I mention the word Saab to anyone, I get the ominous "they're notorious for being in the shop." Is this true?
  • My 03 9-3 Linear just had its original rear brakes replaced at 70k miles. The Saab dealer said the rotors did not have to be replaced, they just replaced the pads. It still has the original front brakes and now has 78k miles on them. I have never gotten as much life out of brakes as I have with this car.
  • waterdrwaterdr Posts: 307
    Saabs own technical literature requires that the rotors be replaced when pads are replaced. The idea of a rotor being good enough to stay on any vehicle is a function of how thick the rotor still is. Every vehicle manufacture has thickness specifications for the rotors. Also, as rotors wear, they grove. The pads actually "seat" on the rotors and over time, fit like a glove. Putting new pads on a car with worn rotors with high miles on them will just lead to premature pad wear and result in have to replace both soon.

    With all that said, I am not looking at the vehicle and I can't see your rotors. Perhaps teh dealer goofed....perhaps you are one of the very lucky few. I find that Saab technicians are better then most, so it must be the later.

    If I were you, I would ask the dealer how thick they were. If they were within spec, then so be it.
  • waterdrwaterdr Posts: 307
    Your statement is 100% IMO about Saabs AND, they do make a lot of trips to the shop.

    I bought mine at 22k miles 18 months ago. I have 50k on it now. Since I have had it, it has been to the shop 4 times for warranty work:

    1 - Faded door handles
    2 - Peeling interior trim
    3 - Inop. sun roof
    4 - Minror tranny issues
    5 - Broken coil spring
    6 - Two smog pumps
    7 - Problems with radio
    8 - Seat belt problems

    Each time, the dealer has taken care of everything w/o issue. Saabs are nice cars....just be sure to have one with a warranty.
  • Anyone got an (extra) oil change before the 10k miles / 12 months (say, at like 3k or 5k miles)? Can anyone tell me if the extra oil change is necessary or good for the car?

    I bought a brand new 9-3 in December 07 but noticed the car has been sitting on the lot since June 07. So I'm curious if an extra oil change is necessary since supposedly the car sat at the dealership for 6 months undriven (from June - December 07).
  • waterdrwaterdr Posts: 307
    The fact that the car sat for a while won't make a difference. I change mine in accordance with the manual and the cars service computer at 15k.
  • My dealer, JMK Saab in Springfield, NJ, told me that it is completely unnecessary to change the oil any more frequently than once every 15,000 miles (when the service indicator light comes on.) JMK is the largest Saab dealer on the east coast, so they must know something about Saabs.

    I have a 2005 9-3 Arc, which has essentially the same engine as the current 4-cylander 9-3.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    The fact that the dealer says there's no reason to change more often than every 15K doesn't mean much; they don't stand to lose if your car lasts less time than it might. In fact, they tend to gain.

    What is true is that 15K oil changes will most likely get your car to 100K miles, by which point most people have already sold their car. On the other hand, a good modern engine with oil changes, say, every 6,000 miles may well last to 250K miles.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    Saab will only pay for the oil changes under their pre-paid maintenance programs in accordance with the 10k/or 12 mo. schedule.Any intermediate changes would be at the owners cost.In light of the fact that this would generate additional income for the service dept.,I think your skepticism regarding what this person was told by his dealer is questonable.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Hm. Are you suggesting that 2-3 extra oil changes would be a better profit maker than a new car? Especially considering that those extra oil changes might well be performed by a third party or by the owner themselves?

    There's a definite pattern for service intervals to become longer when manufacturers pay for them, independent of actual improvements to the engine. And in the case of manufacturers dropping free service ( such as audi ) the service intervals have become shorter. Also, when service was free/factored into price audi engines had longer intervals than the mechanically identical VW engines.
  • flick2flick2 Posts: 4
    My dealer recommended getting it done at 5000 miles due to it being a new engine with possible metallic bits being in the oil. Since this in in line with what my father and father-in-law always told me, I'm going to get it done (at my expense since not part of normal service). It can't hurt.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    Interesting leap of logic......service manager is in cahoots with new car sales to get you into a new car every 100,000 miles instead of every 250,000 miles.In this day and age when leasing accounts for more than half of Saabs new car sales I think your basic premise is largely irrelevant.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    1) I never said anyone was in cahoots with anyone. I just said a single dealer owner might be biased a bit in his own interests.

    2) You're making my argument for me. To paraphrase your argument: "50% of people lease, so who cares how long the car lasts?"
  • So, Saabs kind of get a bad rap for being in the shop a lot, especially the newer ones. I've had my 2003 9-3 for a while now, and I honestly don't think of it as a problematic car. These are the problems I've had:

    1. Driver and Passenger-side headlight failures (replacement necessary)
    2. Driver and Passenger-side break light failures (replacement necessary)
    3. Check engine light came on (went away)
    4. Break failure (absolutely momentary, went away)
    5. Front break pads and rotors made grinding noise (replacement necessary)
    6. Saab lock system failure (occurs occasionally, manual lock necessary on rear driver side door)
    7. Remote unable to unlock car (very rarely occurs, unlock manually, and immediately turn car on to turn off alarm)(remote battery not low)
    8. Traction control failure (only happens when breaking on certain hills, ABS pulsates, not a problem)
    9. The far passenger air vent is broken (unable to close vent or direct air (Saab wants $300 to fix))
    10. Had to replace middle windshield washer ($7, did it myself)
    11. Coating peeling off of several climate control knobs, as well as the glove box release button (can't find needed part, problem not obvious)
    12. Engine Malfunction light came on, twice (problem went away both times (since Saab dealer was closed both days, I waited it out))

    Now, I know potential Saab customers are probably nervous after reading that, but the truth is that most problems aren't as big as they seem. It's a great little car, and I'm happy that I gave it a chance. Most problems are wear and tear, the rest went away pretty quickly. I think Saab is still a growing company. They need to start exploring better quality interior materials, expanding their model line up, customer base, and advertising, and figure out how to rival among companies like BMW and Mercedes. I personally am excited to see this company grow and hopefully evolve substantially. It's still a great company with a unique product to offer, plus not everyone has one like the BMW 3-series sedan.
  • I am looking to buy my first Saab ever. I like the 9-3 Aero's for 2005 and newer. I have a 2005 Subaru WRX STi, but I think I might sell it and sacrafice the insane performance and AWD for something more refined yet still sporty. I have found a CPO 2006 9-3 Aero with 15,000 miles on it but the dealer hasn't priced it yet. Can anyone give me some price ranges to think about? Also, I live in Vermont where winter driving can be treacherous. How do they perform in the snow (assuming I buy new snow tires)? Thanks!
  • bwbbwb Posts: 12
    It might have something to do that the front brakes are ceramic and the rear aren't. The ceramic brakes are cleaner and little harder (or so I hear). I would also get them done at a independent mechanic as it will probably be cheaper if the dealer doesn't come down in price. I also thought all routine maintainence was covered until 36K including brakes???
  • Anyone experienced any 'false alarms' on the warning light before?

    My car is only 3 weeks / 800 miles old and the "Right Low Beam Failure" warning came on today. I got out of the car to check and both front lights seem to work just fine. After I turn off the warning on the dash it never came back on (so far).

    Anyone had this experience?
  • shihanbshihanb Posts: 17
    I complained on the Saab customer service hotline, and they told me that brake wear was not includedin the warranty, I had to pay out of my own pocket. In case that is not true, at least i have a case number to reference, but as my car has 28K miles, i think you may be misinformed, brake wear does not appear to be covered. I brought it to my own mechanic who then had the rear rotors checked for wear, and then left them in and installed new pads, saving me over $200. I tried to get the mechanic to put in ceramic rear pads, he wouldn't do it, saying that he had to go with the OEM recommended replacements in order to be safe, and ceramics were not in the computer as rear pad replacements yet. Next time, i will do rear ceramics.
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