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Saab 9-3 Sedan



  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,459
    have a 9-5 it's 29% german, 22% swedish.
    how about a new 9-3?
  • 3and143and14 Posts: 36
    It would seem you are the one who is whining. People simply wish to share their experiences, and if they happen to be primarily negative then so be it.
  • Saab 9-5 only 22% swedish? that's suprised. As i recalled, Saab 9-3 should have over 95% Swedish with German engine and Japanese transmission. So it looks like has Swedish safty+German power+Japanese reliability.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    I don't have my 9-3 window sticker with me, but I can tell you that it's not that far from the 9-5. Largest percentage from Germany, significant percentage from Japan, and a percentage from Sweden.

    German power? Well, IIRC, not in the sense of MB/BMW German power. Think General Motors in Germany (Opel). The engine is based on the GM Ecotec 2.2 block, reduced in size and very heavily modified with Saab technology (e.g. turbo, intake/exhaust, valvetrain pretty much all the internals). But this happens at a GM/Opel plant in Germany, I think. The modifications are Saab design.
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    Opel/Vauxhall Vectra platform as well.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    Yup ... the 9-3 platform is the GM Epsilon platform, used most recently in the new Chevy Malibu. Of course, just the platform being shared as the base doesn't make the 9-3. The Malibu obviously has vastly different handling characteristics than the 9-3!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,459
    there is more to a car than where all the parts came from, it just suprised me how low the swedish content was. for all i know all the screws come from germany.
  • luba1luba1 Posts: 13
    Just when I start to love this ride again, something else goes wrong. I am still having auto tranny problems. Yesterday morning my auto, in the manual mode, slipped 5 different times while shifting from 2nd to 3rd. This morning the car stalled taking off from a stop. Later, leaving from an appointment in downtown L.A., it barely started (idling at about 300-400 rpm). I gave it some gas and it finally picked up to about 800 rpm. But then the engine light came on while driving home 20 miles. My car (2003 Saab 9-3 ARC w/auto and 17")only has 3,700 miles on it. My dealer has no clue and is waiting for Saab to respond. I love the way this car handles, but this is my 6th time to the dealer, 3rd for the tranny and 2nd for the stalling.

    If any one else has had these problems and has a solution, please let me know. I really want to enjoy this car!!!
  • My 9-3 Arc stalled again recently, this time when my wife was driving it and as she was about to make a left turn through a busy intersection. NOT a good place to stall! She took it directly to the dealer and they gave her a Trailblazer (b/c they were out of Saabs) as a loaner. BTW, the Trailblazer is a pathetic vehicle; it's handling and steering are the pits.

    Anyhow, two days later, I have my 9-3 back. The dealer claims that the software upgrade (which I had done at the thirty-day check up after my first two stalls) had "deteriorated." I'm not a computer guy, but that sounds like something out of "The Matrix" to me. Dealer's solution....they reinstalled the software upgrade.

    Of course, they still didn't detect the buzzing from the doors and had never heard of there being any problems with the seat memory.

    Despite all of the above, I actually kind of like the dealership. Their employees are friendly and courteous (although maybe not too knowledgeable) and they are service oriented. Nevertheless, this had better fix the stalling problem for good or I will go the lemon law route.
  • This gives a good idea on where the parts are sourced. Peace.
  • For months now I have been eager/excited about purchasing a new 9-3 Arc...practically just drooling and waiting for lease end on my current car! But, this discussion board now has me very leery...I've actually begun to consider other cars (Acura, Infiniti, BMW). There are so many posts here where people are complaining/commenting about all the problems they've had with their new 9-3's that I can't even imagine why anyone would go through all the hassle! I was hoping there would be some people out there who could provide more objective feedback regarding their experiences. Additionally, most of the negative comments are from people with '03 9-3's. I would love to hear more comments from people who are in '04 9-3's...hoping that many of the problems identified in previous posts have now been corrected with one model year under their belt. I guess I'm just hoping that maybe you guys can help turn me back into a pure Saab enthusiast again......
  • GBrianKGBrianK Posts: 211
    Are you leasing a 9-3 right now? There are bugs in the current 9-3. From reading posts on other boards and speaking to folks at the dealership, some of the issues (stall, rattles, On-Star not working) still exsist in the '04. Have you considered a 9-5 Aero? Not as sporty or refined, but it is a SAAB.

    I too am worried about the new 9-3 and am not enthusiastic about the materials used. The closest competitors I have liked are the Acura TL and BMW 330iA.
  • I own a 9-3 ARC and have had no problems whatsoever in 12K miles. I mentioned this in an earlier post, that if I had to do it over again, I would buy another 9-3. I was shopping for a unique, European sports sedan, and wanted to keep the price under $30K. Having owned BMW, Mercedes and Audi in the past, my 9-3 provides a comparable ownership experience. What you are seeing on this board is a group that wants to share some of their problems with the car. What you are not seeing is all the satisfied owners that chose not to post. Just my 2 cents.
  • Hi
    I am a very happy owner of a fully optioned '03 9-3 linear at 11k miles. So far the only problem I have had is a jammed cd changer fixed under warranty from Saab. My only complaint is the under powered small rear speakers. Anybody have a cost effective way of upgrading the standard liner 150 W system? I'd like to add some 6 x 9 speakers in the back, perhaps a cd changer and higher wattage amplifier. The saab upgrade is over $1k (including disc changer in back and Arc/Aero sound system).
    I am also wondering about the system re-set after you change the oil.
    Anybody have any experience here? After you change the oil, does the system reset function become available?
  • I have a 2003 Linear with 12k miles and have not had a single problem. So far it has probably been the most trouble-free car I have owned. It does no stall, it has no rattles, it shifts smoothly, and all the electronics have worked the way they are supposed to. I bought it in 3/02 and it was built in 1/03.
  • lcp1lcp1 Posts: 14
    I have 9,000 miles in 8 mos.on my 9-3 Vector
    with sentronic trans.-----no slipping,stalling
    at creep speed while in stop and go traffic-
    fixed at dealer in 30 minutes never to appear
    again.Onstar"went to sleep"once,fixed it myself
    following service dept.instructions to remove
    and reinstall a specific fuse.These kind of issues
    in a car which is essentialy the classic clean sheet of paper redesign are to be expected and
    could never sour my overall opinion of the car.
    Let's keep these negative posts in perspective---
    the last time I checked Saab 9-3 sales for calendar year 2003 were approaching 21,000 units!
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    04 9-3 brochure reports that Arc and Aero models will have input jack for hooking mp3 players into the car's audio system located in the center console area..........

    EXCELLENT (except why not on the Linear also?)

    good job Saab
  • i am looking at a saab 9-3 arc.

    What are the lease numbers like, i know there is a special, but how much have you guys walked out the door with.

    Thank you
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    some dude here in Mpls area traded has black 03 Auto Vector in to a dealer here with like 3k miles on it. Black/gray int. Sweet car.

    Myself I would like the stick but it was a nice new car sitting on the lot here.
  • My wife recently bought a 99 Saab SE Convertible.

    Seems like a neat car. I know absolutely nothing about Saabs though. I had to read the owners manual just to find the oil dipstick (like I was supposed to know it's attached to the oil filler cap?)

    One minor problem: on the message screen, "Fill Coolant Reservoir" keeps popping up, then going off. I've checked the reservoir and it's full.

    I can't seem to locate any traditional radiator cap to check the radiator level itself.

    Ideas, anyone? There is what looks to be a level sensor in the side of the reservoir, and that may be what's causing this. The sensor is below the level of the coolant.

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