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Saab 9-3 Sedan

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  • lasaablasaab Posts: 8
    Hi Everyone:

    Everyone here seems pretty knowledgeable about the 9-3 and I was wondering you could give me some advice on leasing this car since it will be my first car lease on my own.

    I'm moving to Los Angeles in 3 days which is where I plan on leasing the vehicle, and I was wondering what the best deals are, what I should expect to pay per month, the financing rates, and residual values for a 24 month lease, with 12k miles per year.

    I want to put down as little as possible up front and I also am not interested in the current 27 month lease promotion that they have on their website because when I worked out the numbers it didn't seem like a good deal.

    I'm looking for the Saab 9-3 2.0T 4cyl turbo with automatic transmission- other than that I'm not looking for any other upgrades.

    Also, when do the 2007 models come out-- will that make the prices on the 2006 models go down? Should I be getting a better deal since I plan on purchasing at the end of the month and during Memorial Day Weekend?

    Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated!

    -Ashley
  • You are a life saver my friend! I have been dealing with this for two years and you fixed my problem with one little posting!! Thanks a million!!!
  • What ever you do, DO NOT purchase your car from Saab of Santa Monica. My car has been riddled with problems and their service was terrible from the start. They kept me waiting in the show room for 5 hours while they "swore my car was almost done..." The service manager does not return calls, so much so that when I called the dealership manager, he had to get involved. (Though they never fixed my problems.)

    I now live in San Diego and though I will never buy another Saab for as long as I live, Marvin K. Brown does provide excellent service. Strongly reccomend you lease because when you go to the dealer every month to get it fixed, you don't want to have to pay for it too.

    Do yourself a favor and read Consumer Reports before choosing a Saab....
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Posts: 1,150
    I would think that the issue of loaner cars is decided at the dealer level. In any case, I couldn't imagine paying up for a European car w/o the explicit promise of a free loaner.
  • 530ir1150r530ir1150r Posts: 263
    It is now, but Saab subsidized it before and your loaner was a Saab. Now you need to make it part of your negotiation and not assume loaners will always be available and it may be anything, even an Enterprise rental.

    Our Saab is a 2005 and we were told loaner cars will be available for scheduled maintenance and warranty work when we purchased the car.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    Saab dealers continue to have access to a loaner car program that is subsidized by Saab corporate.The loaners are apportioned to each dealer based on how many cars they deliver per annum.There still is the possibility that on any given service day the number of Saab loaner cars available may not be adequate to provide every service customer with a Saab.In these cases dealers will often substitute a rental car at dealership expense.
    Loaner cars must stay in service for 120 days after which they are given a $1,000 to $2000 subsidy to be used as a rebate to the consumer.Dealers,if they choose, may restrict loaner car eligibility to only customers who purchased from their dealership.There is no need to negotiate loaner coverage at time of purchase.
  • 530ir1150r530ir1150r Posts: 263
    Obviously you need to clarify with the dealer or negotiate with the dealer at time of purchase if the program is not mandatory.
  • ponytrekkerponytrekker Posts: 284
    >>The shop can't get it in for 2 weeks!!!

    Just drive it in to the shop until they look at it or call the police. Tell them you are coming with a camera crew.
  • ponytrekkerponytrekker Posts: 284
    Even with a loaner, who wants the hassle of going back and forth to the dealer. I say dude should sue 'em, get his money back and buy something else.
  • I wanted to say the same thing. I have an '03 Linear 9-3. It's been fine. The radio has had problems (especially in cold weather--who knows) but overall it's been a perfectly fine car. Drives great, good mileage.
  • thomaswthomasw Posts: 34
    I leased a 2003 9-3. FINALLY was able to turn it in last February.

    That car, which overall is a GM product know, personified why GM has a reputation as a crap manufacturer.

    Though I'm eligible for the GM Family Discount through an in-law, I passed on it and got a non-GM car to replace the 9-3.

    According to the car magazines, SAAB's engineers have mostly been fired - ALL future SAAB's are going to be cosmetically modified Opels. In other words, just more GM crap, peddled as "upscale" European cars, and priced accordingly.

    The 9-5 was designed before GM took full control, and is a wonderful car (if you can stomach the new styling). If you want a SAAB, that's your ticket.

    Other than that, from now on, RUN from SAABs ... unless you like paying premium dollar for an Opel POS.
  • skmcesskmces Posts: 6
    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU...i just fixed my radio(2006 9-3 2.0T)...dealer was useless, all they did was reset one station and said they did a software update and fixed it..., turns out they didn't fix anything...THANKS AGAIN
  • rsxbobrsxbob Posts: 1
    I leased an 06 Saab 9-3 in Dec. 05. Since that time I have experienced many problems. Such as SID freaking out, right side passenger window stuck half way up, and an odd smell eminating from a/c unit, which the dealer really screwed up. However, by far the most troublesome is a fuel problem. I have had the fuel pump removed and replaced but still not right. It seems that when I gas up, the car tends to stall, run poorly, and the engine icon is displayed. Dealer says that I cannot top off the tank, but instead, remove gas hose at first "click". This problem has me so paranoid that I usually only fill 3/4 of the tank and dont even wait for the infamous "click". Has any one out there experienced this continuing problem. Dealer is useless!!! Only 4500 miles on odometer.
  • Bob,
    You should have read my posts on this car. Mine is absolutely horrible. I have a website, but I do not think I can post the URL on here but my motto know is "dontbuyasaab" if you get my drift.

    I have hired an attorney, with a link on my website, and am in the process of a lemon law complaint against Saab. The car, an '06 9-3 Aero is a piece of junk with multiple electrical problems--some of which deal with the SID flickering EVERY time I touch anything electrical in the car; flashers, blinkers, seat heater, door locks, windows, etc. The car was in the shop four times for a total of 30 days in the first three months I owned it. And all of this UNDER 4k miles.

    The dealership is worthless--you got that right. Corporate in Atlanta isn't much better. Saab was good when it was owned and run by Swedes. Now that GM has it (and I know I am GM bashing, but I can't help it) they have gone downhill.

    The only thing I want now is to ditch my Saab and walk away. Forever.

    Jeff
  • ogr81ogr81 Posts: 3
    I own a 2003 Saab Linear and have had no trouble with the car or service. I absolutely love the car. Just last week a semi truck backed into me, he only stopped after he felt the impact--and it only left a small line on my bumper. I've found this car to be the safest, most fuel efficient, comfortable car I've ever owned, and for the money,I can't think of another car right now I'd trade it for. I realize many people on the forum have had problems- frankly, if I did, I would probably post it on a forum as a warning for others as too. The purpose of my post is simply for those who may be considering purchasing a 9-3...there are plenty of satisfied owners out there!
  • thomaswthomasw Posts: 34
    But judging by the posts ... and my own experience with the post-GM 9-3 ... and Consumer Reports, the odds are against you with the 9-3.

    GM deserves its poor reputation.
  • skmcesskmces Posts: 6
    Hello -

    I had a question about the rear windows on our 2006 Saab 93, we bought the car in January of this year, and the rear windows go down from the driver's seat with one touch, yet they do not go up with one touch, I have to hold the window buttons up to bring them up.

    Is this the way the windows work???...I was thinking that they would come up on one touch since the go down on one touch...please advise...

    Regards,
    Sunny
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,766
    Does the manual discuss it?

    IMHO, not allowing one touch from the front makes sense since you can't see if there is anything obstructing the window travel.
  • jbmike5jbmike5 Posts: 1
    I am currently in the market for a 9-3. There appears to be a lot of 2003 9-3's in my area with low mileage (30K or less). I am looking for some advice of whether to purchase one of these '03's or one of the newer models.
  • 99saab99saab Posts: 1
    So I just purchased a 1999 Saab 9-3 that is in excelent shape except for the vent selector switch, its constantly blowing air on the floor. I was wondering if you all had and suggestions on where the problem might be located, and or how to fix it? thanks
    drew
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    The 2003's were the first year of the current model, and they had more problems than the current ones do. They also don't have some of the improvements made later. E.g. they have less power, don't have an aux jack, etc.

    I'd get the repair history of an '03 and have it checked out realy closely. I leased one, and had the usual assortment of issues. Made worse by a weak dealer service department (Barrier Saab in Bellevue, now defunct, though the Barrier dealership chain is weak in service in general). I did enjoy the vehicle when it wasn't giving me problems and when I overlooked the weak ride quality, however.
  • 1viking1viking Posts: 2
    I recently bought a 9-3 rag top, and love the car with one exception. The check engine seems to come on for no appearent reason. The car runs fine even with the light on.

    I took it to a dealer who gave me the impression that it has to do with the gas cap, he tighted it and the light went out. However that doesn't seem to work all the time.

    Any of you have the same issue?
    Thanks
  • ponytrekkerponytrekker Posts: 284
    Make sure the car is off when filling w gas.
  • rocharcrocharc Posts: 18
    I have a 2003 ARC, all the windows open and close with one touch moon roof too). Occasionally after the dealer futzes with the car the one touch needs to be re-programmed. You do this by cycling the window up and down rapidly for 2 -3 times in a row. I am assuming that the anti-pinch features in the 2003 are still there in the 2006. What this also means is that if you have comfort open on your key fob (all windows and roof open by holding down the open button) you can(should) get comfort close by holding the lock button. This needs to be programmed by the dealer.

    Check the manual to see if these functions are supported. It works great except if the roof is in tilt position it will not open or shut, but the windows still do.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    If you fuel the car with the car running or if you do not tighten the gas cap securely the check engine light will come on.This is not unique to Saab,it is a by-product of E.P.A.regulations which consider fumes leaking from the gas tank as an environmental hazard.If there is not a solid vacuum measured by your e.c.u.the check engine light comes on,you have to take it back to the dealer and they have to keep a record of the occurance and what caused the fault code.
  • thomaswthomasw Posts: 34
    FORBES rates the SAAB 9-3 as one of the least reliable luxury cars for 2006.

    Yeah, GM has really had a beneficial impact on SAAB, making it just another GM "brand."

    http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/vehicles/2006/07/28/luxury-cars-breakdowns_cx_d- l_0731reliable.html

    "Saab, a General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) brand that made our list with its 9-3, objected to the ranking. A Saab spokesman says the company's internal data show that the most recent Saab 9-3s "have very good quality results," and that labeling the car "unreliable" paints the wrong picture for potential buyers."

    Obviously there is something wrong with GM's data gathering (perhaps upper management "shoots the messenger") for they don't seem to know what the rest of the outside world knows!
  • skmcesskmces Posts: 6
    thx for the infor, when i hold down the open button, only my front two windows and roof open, so when you hold your open button, do all four windows open as well as the roof???...

    side note, the dealer recommends changing your oil every 10k, have you noticed anything with waiting that long???...i was thinking more along the lines of 7500.
  • thomaswthomasw Posts: 34
    Blessedly the lease on my 2003 9-3 ended last February, so I'm finally free of that car.

    It's a shame, before that I had leased a 2000 SAAB 9-5 that was a wonderful car, so much so that my wife got a 2002 9-5 (which we bought out after that lease).

    The 9-5's are wonderful cars but, alas, were designed before GM took 100% control of SAAB. So the 9-5's are the last "good" SAAB's - the car magazines are reporting that (like the 9-3) all future SAAB's will be badge-engineered GM vehicles (mostly rebadged Opels).
  • rocharcrocharc Posts: 18
    Sorry for the delay, Yes all 4 windows and the roof open or close depending on which button I hold down. If the roof is in tilt position it does not move but the windows still do their thing.

    I change my oil at 7,500 if my memory serves me I have had 2 free and 2 oil changes I paid for. I am due for my last free as I approach 3 years. I also tend to drive "aggressively" heavy right foot syndrome.
  • Hi all..I didn't notice anyone posting about this, so i'll ask.

    When changing the rear brake pads, does the cylinder need to be rotated when being pushed into the caliper? I know my old VW required this. I noticed two little holes on the piston which gave me this impression. Anyone have any thoughts or know where I can find the answer to this dilemma (short of buying the repair manual).
    Thanks in advance.
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