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  • nescosmonescosmo Posts: 453
    I do own a Jeep liberty and an sprinter 3500. Today I took the sprinter to the interstate and I notice that when I was doing 69 miles, my tack was reading about 2900 rpm well in my jeep liberty at 69 miles my tack read about 1800 rpm. Could I been missing the od on the sprinter?, is the tranny some how damage or this is normal. Please Help.....
  • the reason is the 15" wheels you have on the 3500 sprinter and the 2500 sprinters have 16" wheels. it has the 15" wheels to give it more power to handle the heavier loads. wide open mine turns 3000 at 82 on the speedo and 80 on the gps
  • How many cylinders in that Jeep?

    My 4 cylinder Aveo would do about 2500 RPM at 55 and the 5 cylinder Sprinter would do about 2000 RPM. Our 8 cylinder Explorer does even lower. I think 1700. (All the numbers are approximations based on a guess, and not the actual reading, so don't jump on me for that.)
  • jim314jim314 Posts: 491
    Running 2900 rpms at cruising speed would give poor fuel economy, and doesn't sound right to me. I think you should check with other 3500 owners. Are you sure you hadn't downshifted with the "manumatic"? Get up to that speed and try upshifting with the manumatic and see if it goes into a higher gear. If so, then your AT is not working.
  • nescosmonescosmo Posts: 453
    :confuse: my Jeep is diesel 2.8 and a 4 cylinder, I was on D when I was at high way speed, I tried on city the manumatic and it seems that it shift ok I get about 150 miles per quarter tank of fuel on city driving and some spressway. I do not know if the tranny have an over drive but it seems to me that rpm is too high. should I take it to the dealer. I do not like dealer so I prefer to avoid them.
  • your rpm depends on a number of things. number of cylinders dose not make a different. it is the size of the tire, rear end ratio and final drive. by having 15" wheels or 16" wheels or having 3.72 or 4.11 rear end gears and transmission final drive ratio. look on your build sheet and find out what you have. all sprinters will have the same final drive but the gears and wheels are options available that will change the speed/rpm from one sprinter to another.
  • nescosmonescosmo Posts: 453
    Sonnywood.... My sprinter 3500 have the 15" wheels and the 3.7 ratio don't you think that the rpm is too high. The tranny is 5 speed and seems that it shift ok, maybe the 2900 rpm is normal but I am worry.
  • hawk8hawk8 Posts: 31
    [it has the 15" wheels to give it more power to handle the heavier loads.]
    Please explain how !
  • with the 15" wheels it is like putting different gears in the rear. everything else the same you will not go as far in one reverlotion. so your engine turns the same rpm but you dont go as fast or as far. so it would be like 3rd gear instead of 4th gear. if you don't need it for the extra power i would put the 16" wheels on it. at 3000 rpm i'm doing about 80 mph. it will not go over 3000 rpm on the highway because of the speed limit er. yours might not go 80 mph with those tires.
  • if you go to this site you will need to measure the tire height etc.
    http://www.ringpinion.com/content/calculators/rpm.asp
    fill in the numbers 3.72 axle tire height etc
  • 2000_valk2000_valk Posts: 68
    I am looking into a GPS unit. Looking at the garmin C330. Do you recommend a roof antenna for better sat. reception? Your input will help. I would like it to be a portable unit I can put in the car when needed. Thanks, Tom
  • nescosmonescosmo Posts: 453
    Sonnywood2.... Thank you for the input, now it make sense
  • kenbakerkenbaker Posts: 239
    In my father's Ford van we have had no problem getting GPS satellite signals sufficient to have good resolution almost all the time (we have the most experience with this van). With the Sprinter, we have used a dash top position and this provides an even greater area of open windshield over it's position than in the Ford. Using GARMIN e-Trex about the size of a small Nokia cellphone, no external antenna.

    A word of warning was given elsewhere that you may have problems if you have the heated windshield option (metal coating that warms the window?).

    KenB :shades:
  • kenbob88kenbob88 Posts: 21
    There are not too many options available.
    Danny Steyn reports on 5 different wheels.
    Here's his site:
    http://www.danny-steyn.com/mercedes-sprinter-van-conversion-to-mercedes-sprinter- -van.htm#7
  • kenbob88kenbob88 Posts: 21
    Thanks for posting, hawk8.
    This is good news indeed.
    I copied your post on the Yahoo forum as well.
    Ken
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    I was cruising through the Hill Country of Texas with my MB Cruiser. It is a conversion built on the Dodge Sprinter. I pulled into a driveway and there was a very loud bang in the front end. I was able to drive carefully though the front end was much lower, and scraped when I turned corners. I did not see anything broken. I called the hot line and was put in touch with the closest dealer, about 100 miles away. I nursed the vehicle very carefully to Boerne Chrysler in Boerne Texas, just outside San Antonio. Great people that do a lot of Sprinter work. The service manager told me that UPS has that spring break occasionally. It is a transverse monoleaf spring that is made of ceramic. I left it with them and rented a vehicle. They had me all back on the road in less than 48 hours. Great 5 star dealership. Last tank I drove a little slower. Kept it under 65 MPH most of the day. Filled up with 410 miles registered. Got my best mileage so far, 24.58 MPG. Not bad for an 8000 lb vehicle.
  • hawk8hawk8 Posts: 31
    any recommendations where to get a Trailer Hitch for a 158WB 3500? has any one dealt with Sprinteraccessories.com?
  • just go to ebay and put in search dodge sprinter van trailer hitch
  • fireguyfireguy Posts: 3
    RE: the rust, their are not telling the truth. Get a second opinion, then consider getting another dealership for your service work.
  • fireguyfireguy Posts: 3
    The rumble strip noise is very common, my 2003 and 2005 have the noise/vibration. I did put a VanAAcken chip in the 2003. That cured the Rumble strip for a while. Easy driving seems to be one cause, be more aggressive. I had the transmission module changed, and that cured the vibration for about 3 blocks. Then either the converter or flex plate and transmission fluid was changed.
    Cured for about 1/4 mile. I just live w/the vibration.

    Fire guy
  • nescosmonescosmo Posts: 453
    Does the sprinter have an EGR valve. Where can I buy the tech manual, how would I know if I am loosing pickup power I am getting about 150 miles per quarter tank is that a good malege. Some answers will help
  • liljohnnyoliljohnnyo Posts: 1
    It has been fun to read all this, but it will be more fun to finally get my sprinter. How come spondlecat has theirs? I ordered in Phx 120605 and have not heard a whisper. I am waiting for a VA2L15 2500 SHC van 140 in Stone Gray, I ordered lots of stuff so maybe thats why mine is going over 5 months? I got the mercedes grill& badges for Christmas so I have them to dust! maybe soon.
  • altered3altered3 Posts: 59
    Hi Folks from the sprinter down under, just remember the new sprinter wont be long before your old 2005 job is out of date
    Altered Sprinter
    :sick:
  • kenbakerkenbaker Posts: 239
    If you get 150 miles on all four quarters, you are doing great... really set the tripmeter, run through at least 3 of the four quarter tank marks, then fill up and do the math. miles/gal (miles driven divided by gallons used) = MPG... (my first quarter tank is at least 150 miles, then the rest are not.)

    I get 20 MPG, and you are getting about 25 MPG, so you got me beat big time. I approximated 600 miles total (4x150) and divided by 24 gal.s (600/24= 25 MPG). I generally fill up after the triangle lights up and I have usually had about 2 gal.s left (26 gal tank, fillup takes about 24 gal.)

    I always get about 20, in/out of town... until I turn on the second (rear) A/C unit, then it is 18-19 MPG.

    I doubt that you have egr problems at 25 MPG.

    You can sometimes find the manuals on CD on ebay or elsewhere on the net.

    Some of the tuners turn off the EGR, but this does tend to increase emissions in some conditions. I believe that this is during MILD acceleration and while climbing SLIGHT slopes in top gear (this used to be true for sure on gasoline engines). EGR cools the combustion process through the addition of Exhaust Gas back to the intake side (Reciculation)... Less oxygen in the intake equals lower temps at combustion chamber due to weaker burning.

    Higher combustion temps lead to additional nitrogen compounds expelled through the exhaust system (emmissions). In gasoline engines, this happens more at compression ratios over 11:1 and higher head temps. That is why real Boss 302 Mustangs died out the first time... the head ran a little hot and the compression ratio was good (high) and with carbeuration it is hard to control emissions, especially in performance cars. The BOSS 351 had no chance after about 1972, it had to have sodium-filled valves in order to handle the head temps/combustion chamber temps.

    Thanks,
    KenB :shades:
  • nescosmonescosmo Posts: 453
    Kenbaker/// Thank you for the info I think that with the new diesel coming up things are going to look better. I saw some where that the oil category is going to change. have you seen anything like that.
  • altered3altered3 Posts: 59
    The Dodge Sprinter requires to conform to Euro Standards not US fuels or oils supplements
    Fuel for diesel bio-mix B5 ( no more than 5% mix of ALC volume.
    Any more such as B10 to B20 will effect performance gas mileage etc particle filters will block more quicker with excessive sulphur emissions
    oil use synthetic to manual specs
    fuel economy of 25 to the gallon? depends on the grade you use! engine size will also increase or decrease the end figure as the option of engines starts at the range of 308 through to 414 the mid motor 313 will return 26 miles to the gallon on hi-way runs less on hill climb or congested CBD traffic.
    Altered Sprinter:cry:
  • kenbakerkenbaker Posts: 239
    Nescosmo,
    do you mean the new diesel engines or the new diesel fuels?
    If the engines; not sure if a V-6 runs smoother than an in-line 5 like in the current sprinter. If it still runs smoothly and the torque specs hold (I know that horse-power is supposed to go up quite a bit), then I think that the people who wait to buy are in for a nice surprise (probably better mileage on the highway at speeds over 65 MPH).
    If you mean the fuel, then cleaner automotive diesel is quite possible and so is biodiesel. Waste oils, solids-to-oil recycling, waste fats from the meat-packing industry, and even direct crop-to-biodiesel means are all feasible.
    Do the research on the 'net and you will find that bio-diesel is MUCH cleaner than dino-diesel and I do not know of a sulfur bearing ingredient in bio-diesel so there goes the sulfur compound problems.
    The available motor oils for the sprinter in the USA have changed a bit. Mobil has re-named the synthetic line that was recommended by them (was Mobil 1 Truck and Van, I believe). The Sprinter has specific Oil Specs, follow them directly (the correct Mopar Oil will always apply) or get the specs confirmed by the oil manufacturer you want to use to meet the Daimler-Chrysler (or original Mercedes Benz) specs.

    There should be some from the following:
    Kendall
    Mobil and Mobil 1 (another of theirs was call DELVAC)
    Mopar (Dodge orig.)
    (and just about anybody who makes an API/ASTM accredited fully synthetic motor oil in the correct weight for your Sprinter).

    An oil for Diesel Spec motors (USA) is not required due to the very tight specs of the Mercedes Diesel, the low blow-by, the very well controlled engine temps, and the use of quality diesel. Remember to watch for any pumps that indicate you are getting diesel with a higher sulfur content.

    One other indication is that europe is learning to control diesel emmissions better due to the large number of them sold there. With this will probably come another stage of complexity. Diesel emmissions can drop even lower than the great specs they have now if they utilize urea (I think they are calles blue tanks) to inject into the exhaust to clean up some compounds currently emmited.

    I did notice somewhere on my Sprinter that is considered ULEV (ultra low emmissions vehicle). I can certainly say that it is not the diesel-smelling monster that many of my friends with power0stroke and Cummins are running with.

    I really wish that the next wave was coming out with I-6 diesel power like in the Uni-Mog. The inline 6 is the ultimate in smooth power this side of the v-12; with great torque possible, in a relatively compact powerplant.

    KenB :shades:
  • altered3altered3 Posts: 59
    When the US states sees the new Sprinter, there will be two V6 options, petrol and diesel,both engines are more balanced than the older five cylinder unit, which has issues of vibrations in the long wheel based units with dampening, that problem lies with the tail shaft. however, you may be waiting a little longer the old five in line diesel is still being used as the more economically cheaper engine to run. Fuel emissions have been further improved for sulphur carbon filter traps in part to compensate for different quality fuels in other countries.
    Australia is similar to the USA you are limited as to options , which is why I have ordered direct from Europe to obtain the sprinter I require down under for both private and commercial use
    Altered Sprinter
  • nescosmonescosmo Posts: 453
    Kenbaker... There is a writing some where that with the new ulsd for the 07 diesel engine to maintain the pollution control, the oil have to be change to a new formula. I do use on my sprinter new Castrol dino 15w-40 on my next change will be Delo 400 until I get 20,000 miles then I will use 5w-40 syn. or 15w-40 syn. I want to brake the engine with dino then use syn. What do you think.
  • kenbakerkenbaker Posts: 239
    Nescosmo,
    Sounds like you are on track. Good quality oils all the time with good manufacturers to back you up. The fully-synthetic oils offer better resistance to heat and contamination breakdown (and must have special additives to be fully synthetic I would think), but it is the additive package that is key to long oil life in dino oils.

    While on dino oils I have gone 7,500 miles on modern fuel injected gas engines, no problems (mostly highway miles) and it is the standard on my 1994 GMC Safari (4.3 liter V-6). Running great at 115,000. Just don't go over 10,000 miles on your Sprinter with good quality (API/ASTM approved, with the latest standards) dino oil.

    I know of no difference in break-in with dino vs. synth. oils... My engine rebuilder required me to use fully synthetic from the get-go. It is on a high-heat potential Mitsubishi Montero 2.5 (I-4) with the dual counter-rotating balance shafts.

    KenB :shades:
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