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Ford Expedition Maintenance and Repair



  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Check your lemon laws in your state, and start applying them. Please to say, my 03 Navigator has been quite good, none of the stuff you have. YOu need to dump this dog...... If it is leased, at least you have an automatic out of your misery date looming. Fires and lakes are also possible, JK.
  • I have 2003 expedition with the following problems: Total loss of power lights, wipers, dash,radio etac. major rattle upon startup, brake surge upon startup, major back door rattle, door rattles headliner rattle at dvd steering wander and vibration, brake dust, several blown fuses, fried advance trac module,transmission has been replaced, front differential has been rebuilt. I bought this in january and it has spent 4 months in the shop. I have had mirror problems, seat problems memory module problems and it goes on and on. I am sick of this junk car! I would not recommend it to anyone ford has not been able to fix it. during the power failures it smells like smoke, the dealer says let it burn, I bought this to carry my kids in what an attitude to take, Ford costomer relations says there is nothing they can do. I am ford nut this is the first bad one I have had but boy is it bad. my recommendition Dont waste your money.
  • Have you loked into the lemon law?
  • For a leaking or blown head gasket, the engine shouldn't need pulling. So cars, however, are difficult to remove the heads without pulling the engine.

    The one thing missing in this discussion, that your dealer isn't telling you, is that an engine needs to to be inspected for cracks in the cylinder walls after a leaking/blown head gasket. Many times, these cracks can't be seen by the naked eye. Also, once anti freeze makes its way into the engine oil, the engine is pretty much toast in that everything needs to be pulled and cleaned. So, unless the can pull the oil pan while the engine is still in, I'd insist that the thing be pulled to be inspected and cleaned. They may be able to fix the heads with the engine still in, but there could be unseen damage that has already occured that will come back and bite you in the wallet later!
  • I have a 2001 5.4 2WD Expedition that has started to vibrate in the rear at 40-50 mph, about the time the auto transmission switches into 4th gear. I does it only after the car has warmed up or been driven a few miles. The vibration only lasts only for a few seconds and only happens as I pass over the 40-50 mph mark. It does not happen at any other speeds. I have not taken to deal yet, any ideas?
  • wijocowijoco Posts: 462
    Unfortunately, not too uncommon. It can be anything from a tire imbablance to worn drivetrain parts. Only a mechanic can say for sure. There are a lot of problems with Ford Expedition+Explorer differential and driveshaft vibrations, but it's all just specualtion right now.
  • corpuscorpus Posts: 37
    I just drove home a 2003 Fx4 demo with 6,700 miles. Before I drove it off the lot, I made them spin balance the tires, because the steering wheel vibrates above 65 mph. While they were spinning the tires, I drove a different 2003 Fx4 with 100 miles, and it shimmied, too. Spinning the tires helped a little, but not a lot.

    After getting home (45 minute highway drive), I realized why I have been so happy with my 1994 Suburban for the past ten years. It is still much smoother, after 120,000 miles, than the Expedition. The road just wears at you in the Ford. Sure, it feels tight and responsive around town, which is why I bought it, but I'm not looking forward to road trips in it.

    Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the vibrating steering wheel? Did I just buy the wrong car? Do they all feel this way?
  • There is a full blown procedure for rooting out the shimmy problem. In a lot of cases it is the balancing of the lousy Contitracs. Regular balancing doesn't take care of the problem, they need to be "road force balanced" which from my understanding indexes the tire to the rim prior to actually balancing the conventional way. There is also a rack and pinion problem in some trucks which requires the sterring box to be replaced. In my case they found that the tires fromt he factory were "out of round" and could not be balanced. New set made it all go away, but I still can't wait to get some Michelins on it.
  • fx4fx4 Posts: 72
    My FX4 had been parked for several months on uneven ground at the dealer's new showroom construction site. For the first few miles the lumpy tires were producing a tremendous amount of shaking back up into the steering wheel through the R&P. It hard to believe that the cheapo Cont. TR tires are actually somewhat smooth on the highway now. Never have been balanced in 22,000 miles. The TRs started to cup on the edges at 2,500, but after vigorous rotation and close attention to air pressure, outer edge cupping is not excessive.

    The TRs do seem to skid fairly easily in wet conditions given the 5,800lbs for the FX4. Even though ABS and EBA work well, you have to be very careful in the rain stopping at certain places---the excessive weight of the FX4 will skid you right through downhill stop signs when wet. I know from experience.
  • fx4fx4 Posts: 72
    I have made a number of comments about the 5,800 weight of the 2003 FX4 with full gas tank (the regular XLT is 100+ less)and am surprised how little response I have gotten on this subject. Hey this thing is only a few hundred less the the infamous Hummer 2. Any comments?

    In fairness, the old trusty 5.4L works so hard that the FX4 manages to be a bit nimble anyway. Also the rebirth of the 2wd high helps the mileage. But, in the larger picture what a missed opportunity by the Ford engineers to have made a really nice full sized suv by targeting it at a few hundreds lbs. less like Sequoia, new Durango, Nissan Armada, Tahoe?

    (Many of the famous 123 improvements are actually downgrades for those of us with cargo but limited passenger needs. Also, seating room in 60/40 2nd row seats for a few large adults, versus too many seats designed for small children. These are for another day.)

    Finally, where is Ford going with all the huge weights in the new 2004 F-150 and the 2003 and up Expedition models. And, only the very long wheelbases and tall rubber in the 2004 F-150s?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The Rack & Pinion steering, which provides such great road feel, also unfortunately, provides great tire feel as well, and if your tires are the least bit out of round, or balance, you're going to get it right up to your fingertips. My Navigator had just a slight shimmy over 50MPH - a tire rotation cleared it right up, so it's the tires. And I have the MIchelin Pilots on mine.

    I guess it's the price we pay for the precision of the rack & pinion. Gonna have to have good rubber on it all the time.

    In the Suburban, the steering is so numb, you wouldn't notice one of B.C.'s rock wheels under the truck.
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    Hi we don't have duplicate discussions going, we are going to merge this discussion "Ford Expedition problems" with the "Ford Expedition Owners: Problems & Solutions" discussion.

    The new discussion will use the name "Ford Expedition Owners: Problems & Solutions" and appear in both the Owner's Club area, the SUVs message board and M&R board as well.

  • fx4fx4 Posts: 72
    At I see that customers' ratings for the subject tires are among the best on the website and exceed ratings for several much higher priced brands. Has anyone used this exact tire on a 2003-2004 Expedition? On any other suv of any kind?

    Agree with nvbanker on keeping good, balanced rubber on the road with the new R&P steering for Expedition.

    For my money, I wish the new 4wd Expeditions still came with the old style R/B steering, with the R&P reserved as standard for the 2wd only. (note some of the Dodge models) There just seems to be too much front axle weight and quickness in 4wd Expedition to ever have comfortable driving with current version of R&P steering. FX4 a chore to drive daily to and from work. However, much better in other applications such as higher interstate speeds and boat towing.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    You may be on to something here. Unfortunately, that's an EC that may not make it through any time soon.
  • I have searched the competitors' internet, the dealership lots and the like and have found nothing that's as appealing to the eye as the Expedition. Damn those Ford engineers! They designed something that looks great, but underneath all that swank, there lurks a hidden demon. I just wish they could combine these creature comforts and great ergonomics with some real reliability, good service at the local dealership and manufacturer level (i.e., getting it fixed right the FIRST time) and oh, it wouldn't hurt for Ford to be a little less arrogant when the customer is in need of some real solutions to problems. It could mean the difference between customer satisfaction and lifetime loyalty in spite of problem(s) vs. going lemon law and losing a good customer for life. Just something to think about.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I completely agree, tbooth. I think the Expigator is the best design hands down. And, my last one (a 99) was drop dead reliable for 5 years! That's one reason I bought another one. Now, I've not had any serious problems with my 03 Gator, but I can tell it's not quite put together with the integrity the 99 was. Yet, the design and features are world class, as the way it drives. But if I had had the issues some of those on this thread have had, I'd be livid.
  • corpuscorpus Posts: 37
    I am now on Cooper Discoverer AT LT265/70/17's, with a noticeable improvement on the road. The steering wheel was vibrating before with the ContiTrac's, because they couldn't get them into balance. Now it is smooth as silk. The Cooper's were $575 with tax, mounted and balanced. The dealer paid half. Money well spent.

    I also replaced the chrome steel wheels with EB alloy wheels I bought on e-bay. Anyone need a set of ContiTracs on chrome wheels?
  • Does anyone know if the transmission in the 2003 Expedition Eddie B., is the same make/model with either engine? And does anyone have any experience with either engine? The vehicle I am purchasing has the 4.6L. Currently I don't tow anything but I am concerned about maintainability and longevity of the 4.6L over a long time. I subscribe to good maintenance every 2500 miles.

    Thank you.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The 4.6L isn't enough engine to move that truck in my opinion, and don't EVER tow with that engine in it. Too much load. I'd look around further and get the 5.4L, and frankly I'd get a 99 or newer, as the 5.4L in the 97 & 98 only made 230 hp. In 99 it was boosted to 260, which is very adequate for any job you ask it to handle.

    But, that's just my opinion.
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