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Ford Expedition Maintenance and Repair

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  • teldocteldoc Posts: 49
    Thanks, I've had those on a land cruiser and they were great also.

    Any fashion sensitive Expy owners try the blackwall? How does that look?
  • fitguyfitguy Posts: 222
    I have a 2000 XLT, not same vehicle but in mint condition and with a very fussy owner. I replaced the crappy Wranglers with, believe it or not, Firestone Destination LE's. Was ready to go with Michelins as I put them on my '97 Explorer and they were great. I have 17" tires and the Michelins are grossly overpriced, IMO. Did a lot of research on tirerack.com and CR, Firestone is making some excellent tires now (they have to, or they are gone). Mounted them blackwall as my wife is called the Curb Queen; the blackwalls look MUCH better than raised letter white. And the Firestones are excellent in all respects- handling, quietness, rain and snow performance. The debacle with the Explorers and Firestone tires was part their fault, part owners who ran the tires with low pressures causing heat and failures. I run these at 40 psi for better gas mileage and with this size tire, no noticable difference in ride quality (the previous series Expy's ride stiff, anyway). Paid about $400 for the set, mounted and balanced.
  • fitguyfitguy Posts: 222
    I am considering trading my 2000 Expy for an '05- have read back through this thread a few times and got the lowdown on the early '04's and all the problems. Wondering how the '05's have been for any that own them? The only other full-size SUV's that make sense for us each have a drawback- the Sequoia has 3rd row seats that must be removed (done that enough times with our 2000 Expy, it's a hassle) and the Armada has had reliability/build quaility issues. Both are overpriced. For a full-size SUV with good tow capacity and fold-flat 3rd row seat, the Expy is really the only choice.(Durango not an option; don't like Chrysler products). Any feedback much appreciated!
  • wkohlerwkohler Posts: 74
    I noticed you didn't mention anything against GM. Having said that I've had very good luck in the past with suburbans. I currently own a late build 03 Expeditionand have had NO problems what-so-ever. I did upgrade the brakes to eliminate the brake dust issue, but, the brakes did operate as advertised. I know a couple of folks in my area who own and 05 Expedition. One has had no problems, the other has had A/C problems. Neither one has a lot of miles though. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that no matter what you get, it winds up being somewhat of a crap shoot. I was considering getting an 05 with the 3V engine, but why give up a perfectly good vehicle and take the chance of the new one being a :lemon: Good Luck. By the way, you should be able to get a good deal. All kinds of 05 and 04 Expeditions, suburbans, Durango, et al. sitting around.
  • mbjbmbjb Posts: 39
    teledoc,

    I got rid of my contcraps when I purchased my expy and I went with the Bridgestone Dueller AT Revo. The ride is smooth and quiet. Also the revos are rated very good traction in rain and snow. I do not remember the price but check out tirerack.com.
  • jon1214jon1214 Posts: 1
    Have your battery tested first. My '01 Expedition had the gauges rotating all the way to the right on startup and another forum stated that the battery was starting to go. In checking the battery it was at half life and upon changing it the problem went away. This may be affecting some of the other systems also.
  • doc4baxdoc4bax Posts: 3
    Hello everyone, I just bought a 2003 Expedition with 26000mi. When you get to 40MPH you start to hear a howling sound from the tranny, actually sounds like its coming from the front driver side wheel. Only hear it when I give it a little gas. I brought it in to the dealer and the guy says it's the ring and pinion in the rear-end. That's what it sounds like but the sound is coming from up front. Just curious if anyone else has this problem.
  • compman6compman6 Posts: 3
    I had a similar problem with my 99. I had lights and the windows worked, but the radio wouldn't work either. The problem turned out to be the starter relay. It is located on the firewall on the passenger side and you should be able to change it in less than five minutes.
  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857
    You say you only hear it when you give it a little gas. Does it disappear when you let off the gas? If so, that is exactly how mine behaved. It was indeed the ring and pinion in the rear end. My mechanic insisted on rebuilding the differential himself since he has had bad luck with new rear ends from Ford. Apparently brand new ones would exhibit the same whine. He rebuilt it properly and I have had no issues since.
  • doc4baxdoc4bax Posts: 3
    Thanks Z. It will disapear when you let off the gas. I was wondering how a new truck could have such a problem with limited miles. The mechanic said it was indeed the differential and he ordered a new ring and pinion. I keep hearing it up front but maybe the sound just finds it way up there. He said one of the other mechanics said the same thing. He said something like on the older design the teeth on the ring and pinion are different so I guess he is putting the newer design in. My concern was with towing. I am towing a 6500 pound boat this weekend and don't need the differential cooked. He said it will be fine.
  • wkohlerwkohler Posts: 74
    I owned an early build 03 Expedition and had numerous issues with it. One was the howling sound you describe that was caused by the front differential. There is a TSB out that take care of this issue by replacing the "S" spring. Had that done and no more howling. If you still have the problem after fixing the rear, look at the front. Also, if your VIN has the letter "A" before the last six digits, would suggest you look up the numerous TSB's associated with your vehicle; i.e. door seals, outside rear view mirros, seat padding, cladding attachment points, etc.
  • doc4baxdoc4bax Posts: 3
    It is 2WD so it does not have a front differential or transfer case. Where can I go to look up the TSB's that don't charge you? I know expeditions weren't known for reliability but howling at 26000mi is ridiculous. My brother had a 2001 and never had any problems. I heard the redesign hurt the reliablity factor.


    Also my warranty is up in about 10000mi. What would you suggest for warranty?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,929
    what are the problems with the 04's? maybe you meant early 03's?
  • fitguyfitguy Posts: 222
    It may have been '03's; now I can't recall for sure without going back though all the previous threads, although I thought '04's had significant # of problems, too. If they were a vast improvement, that says the '05's should be mostly beyond Ford's typical "new design development phase, assisted by the consumer". Not bashing Ford as I am a Ford guy and have owned a bunch- I really do like the new Expy's better than the Durango. But Ford really does need to work on improving year-one new model reliability. Interestingly, even a lot of Japanese new-model SUV's are having issues, too- wonder if it's just that SUV's are harder to get right in the first year; or that the problems stem from now being assembled in USA factorys? :confuse:
  • expdudeexpdude Posts: 1
    Sounds to me like your compressor for the self-leveling suspension is going out. I had the same thing happen to mine. If you have to replace it you might as well change out the air springs as well. A leak in the air springs will cause it to over run as well. It started out by running just a little then more often and then becames regular running while stopped. The dealer wanted an arm and a leg to replace the compressor, dryer, and air bags. That is the bad news.

    The good news is that it is fairly easy to do it yourself and there are companies that make aftermarket parts for MUCH LESS than you would pay the dealer. I purchased the compressor (which comes with the dryer) and air springs all for under $500. It will take around 2-3 hours to install. All of their parts are new and not refurbs and are working very well in my Expedition. There is a guide on their site for a Crown Victoria that is almost exactly the same procedure as for the Expedition. And once you have the parts in hand it will make much more sense.

    If you decide to tackle this project I found it much easier to remove the connector that fits into the air spring and install it outside of the vehicle. It took some tapping with a rubber mallet to get it into place.

    The company that I purchased the parts from was http://www.arnottindustries.com
    They were fast and friendly. I had them overnight the parts to me and everything was delivered as planned.

    If you need any advice installing the parts just send me a message.

    Hope this helps.
  • khelms_98khelms_98 Posts: 1
    I have a very early build '03 (purchased in August of '02) and I have had very few problems with mine. I live a small town and I, and two other friends of mine, got our '03 Expeditions all in the same week from the same dealer. They actually rolled off the assembly line together and were put on the same semi. However, our Expeditions have had almost zero problems. The only problems I have had are the exterior mirrors; the reverse function acts up sometimes. But that was fixed per a TSB. Other than that, mine has been great and so have the other two early build '03's around here. We all still have ours. On the other hand, I have another friend who bought a new '04 about a year and half ago and she has had many problems with hers: ie. rattling doors (which I do not), screwy radio( which I do not), howling rear end(which I do not), among other things. I haven't had near the troubles some have. My rear end is whisper quiet, no howling whatsoever. That is strange because my mother's '04 Navigator has a somewhat noticeable rear end howl, but my early '03 Eddie Bauer Expedition does not. We all have to remember that these vehicles are put together by machines AND humans; so some are going to have more gremlins than others. But not ALL '03's are horrible and riddled with problems. There are more used '04's on dealers lots than '03's and most people I talk to who have an early '03's absolutely love them; that's why they still have them and didn't opt to trade. Mid year in 2003 Ford made some cost cutting changes like, going to a cheaper, not-as-accurate reverse sensing system, deleting the underhood light, reducing the wattage in the audiophile radio, deleting scuff plates on all door except driver's, among other things. If you notice, the early '03 Expeditions ( and all '03+ Navigators) have two visible reverse sensors and one hidden sensor in the middle behind the bumper facia. That system uses sonar and radar sensors. Well, as I said before, mid year 2003, Ford changed to a 4 visible sensor system, which uses either JUST sonar, or JUST radar, I'm not sure which. But anyway, the 4 sensor system isn't as accurate as the system used on early '03 Expeditions and all '03+ Navigators. So with Ford making cost cutting measures such as these, maybe the problems arose with the later build '03s after all the cost cutting. But my point is that all '03s aren't bad and I don't want anyone reading this to get the wrong idea and think that every single '03 is a lemon.
  • wkohlerwkohler Posts: 74
    Didn't mean to sound too negative regarding early build 03's. The biggest disappointment was the decontenting, I'm assuming to save money. Don't forget the absence of the windshield shade band, the ashtray (don't smoke but the ashtray looks better than the "protrusion"), and the "xtra" 3rd row seat control buttons beside the second row driver side seat. ALso, the white "pointers" on the instrument panel are much easier to read than the red "pointers", especially during the day time.
  • fitguyfitguy Posts: 222
    Thanks for all the feedback- I'm going to demo a '05 this week, hopefully. Certainly plenty on the lots to choose from! :D
  • I took the car to the closest dealer the following Monday and they removed the inside door panel and they saw no evidence of anything pushing against the door. They said that it was a factory defect that I probably missed and advised that not try PDR since it is so minor. I immediately called Ford to complain about the poor quality. I didn't even get a "sorry to hear about that" from the customer service representative.

    I have to say that I am disappointed with the fact that something like this passed quality control on a vehicle that has a sticker of $47k. I am surprised at how expensive Fords have become as the quality degrades. This will be the last new car that I buy since I am now convinced they are not worth the prices that they ask nowadays. At least my wife is happy with it!
  • rtpmedicrtpmedic Posts: 1
    I have a 99 Expedition - purchased 12/04 with 46K miles. It has overall been a really good truck - have only had 2 problems. It burns quite a bit of oil, but the digital odometer display goes in and out. We had a mechanic look at it and of course it was on at the time, so he couldn't find anything wrong. I need to find out why the odometer display disappears, any suggestions? It still keeps up with the mileage and the speedometer works fine. Stays off more than on now days.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,929
    i only want to know because the dealer i buy from still has 2 '04 eb's that have the exact equipment i want. :blush:
  • teldocteldoc Posts: 49
    I got one for ya....about 90% of the year, the reverse sensor system works perfectly. But on really hot days, it sometimes gives a false positive (beeps like crazy when there's nothing there). It only does it may 1 out of 5 times on hot days, making diagnosis for the dealer really tough.

    Anyone had this problem with the reverse sensor system? Ideas? Is it a sensor or the system?
  • mom2twinsmom2twins Posts: 1
    I am knew to this site and can only hope someone has had a similar experience. Last night when I got home I turned of the ignition and removed my key and my defroster started to blow at full power and my radio flashed off and on. The expy drove great, as usual, and I had no indication of a problem until I turned off the ignition. I had to disconnect the battery during the night to get the blower to stop running. Do you think it is a short in the defroster or perhaps somewhere else? Any suggestions or comments are very much appreciated. Thank you.
  • twiebetwiebe Posts: 7
    My EB White is 1 year old and I noticed a rust spot on the roof. As I went around it more closely, I noticed very faint specs of rust underneath the black window trim, as well as the rear panels. The specs are also more noticable on the trim above the rear window that houses the third brake light. This car sits in a garage all day, and I take it to a full service car wash typically every Saturday and get the works (premium wash, clear coat, armorall tires etc.) Has anyone had this problem, and does anyone know what the warranty options are?
  • Hi everyone I'm new to the boards so I apologize if this has already been asked. We have a 2000 Ford Expedition and it just recently started clunking when we first start to drive. The clunking sound stops after awhile but we'd like to know what's making that sound. Thank you for your help.
  • 1frmpsu1frmpsu Posts: 1
    Wow....your description matches my experience almost exactly. Friday evening I had problems starting, with the "theft" light on the dash flashing at me. I re-programmed the key and it started. On the way home there was something beeping with a series of 5 beeps coming from the dash. When I got home and shut the truck off, I pulled the key out and the blower came on full blast and the odometer was blinking periodically. I also had to disconnect the battery. I just spoke with the dealer this morning.....turns out I had a leak in the windshield seal and rain water got into the fuse panel!! I need a new fuse panel and something called a gem module? Add to this a new seal on the windshield and I'm out $930!! Good Luck!!
  • gheimurgheimur Posts: 88
    Bought it in April 04. Had a few minor issues. Interior lights stayed on,
    Driver power seat (EZ option got stuck ) and Drivers side mirror vibrated. All
    minor issues that were fixed . 9300 miles on it now. Runs great. No issues.
    I think its the best truck out there for the $. Took a 800 mile trip to Buffalo over
    the weekend. No issues. 17.2 miles to the gallon at 72 mph as per the computer.
    Actual computation 16.77.for one tankful
  • gteeezngteeezn Posts: 3
    I have a 1999 Expedition Eddie Bauer. It has 70,000 miles on it and I have had no major issues. With that said though my tail lights stopped working while the 3rd brake light was fine. I found that one of the bulbs blew in one of the tail lights that caused both tail lights to stop working. I replaced the bulb and they worked for about a month and a half. Now they do not work again. The bulbs tested fine. I am told that the brake lights are on a different system than the 3rd brake light. Is this true and does anyone know what may be causing this before I go to the dealer?
  • gteeezngteeezn Posts: 3
    I broke down today and took it to a friends mechanical shop. Low and behold one wire behind the headlamp switch came loose. Who knew that the headlamp switch operates the brake lights. The wire was out behind the fog lamp switch. Simple repair. Tail lights back in full use.
  • creaviscreavis Posts: 2
    I've got a 97 4x4 xlt with a 5.4L. everytime I go for a trip at least an hour away my service engine light comes on. I took it to autozone to let them hook it up to tell me what the light was for they said the code was p1131 and that it was a dealer code that they didn't know what it was. If any one has an idea about this it would be very helpful.
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