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Lincoln Aviator

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  • Blue Oval News has a story on the Aviator with interior and exterior pictures. Looks are O.K., but my first impression is that there's as much Trailblazer &/or Durango in the design as the Navigator. Still very clean and attractive. Interior looks good. More pictures available in an upcoming Vanity Fair magazine, where Lincoln will have a massive, multi-page spread.
  • btate2002btate2002 Posts: 64
    http://www.bonforums.com/lincolnmerc/aviator_release.htm


    There's nothing new or exciting as far as design goes. Just kinda looks like a Navigator with Explorer door handles. I do think the dash design is kinda cool.

  • haironghairong Posts: 153
    The Aviator definetely looks like its big brother the Navigator, from hood down. The sloped hood actually reminds me a little bit of Jaguar, but nothing of Durango or Trailblazer. The whole (front end) styling is softer than the Nav. but still tastful. It looks good, but won't be a trend setter/leader. Actually, the Nav. was the trend setter, I liked its styling very much. It took Ford a bit too long (5 years) for a follow up.

    Now, I will have to buy a copy of Vanity Fair, for the wife of course.
  • jerry2281jerry2281 Posts: 97
    Don't waste your time or money. Ten pages of all Linclon products, 2 1/2 pictures of Aviator, the same which can be viewed free at Blue Oval News link per Post #63. Very disapponting. Mostly a fashion advertising puff piece with the moronic Martin Sheen ??? featured. Was hoping for some specs, but noooo. That would provide information that a potential buyer could actually use.
  • haironghairong Posts: 153
    Thanks for the tip, Jerry. What more specs do you like to see? The dealer guys here have posted about everything they have (I saw the ordering guide too). I want(ed) to see more pics, esp. rear view and side view. Did you see the side-by-side Nav. & Aviator pic in VF? media.ford.com has that pic but very small and unclear (out of focus?).
  • toyotas1toyotas1 Posts: 134
    Obviously ran out of money for an original exterior design, but the interior is great, may have TOO MUCH power, and if they keep it under $40k (loaded), they'll have a true RX/MDX sales leader competitor on their hands. Good job, Lincoln! It's only 5 years too late.....
  • btate2002btate2002 Posts: 64
    HAHAHA

    There's no such thing as too much power toyota!
  • haironghairong Posts: 153
    It was parked in front of a Ford building. It looks like a Navigator from the front, and an Explorer from the back and side.

    Frankly, I am a little dissapointed. This is exactly what I was afraid of, looks too much like an explorer. I have no problem with it looking like a Navigator because 1) I like Nav's styling and 2) I don't mind brand theme, every auto maker does that, why not Lincoln. But I don't like the family resemblence of the exp. If you want to sell a luxury suv for a premium, please at least make it look different from its non-luxury cousin, to make the buyers feel it's worth the extra $$$.

    Don't get me wrong, over all I think the Aviator still looks pretty good, with excellent mechanics under the skin. But it won't prevent me from looking elsewhere, mainly MDX & Pilot. However, if the price starts (4x2 luxury) at around 35K MSRP (not street price) and tops off (AWD premium) just north of 40K, I am sold.
  • Guess we should have more info after debut on march 29 in manhattan, new york..
  • I have not been to an auto show in years. I am thinking of going to the debut at the Javits Center in New York.

    When a vehicle debuts, typically is it roped off or can you get near it to see inside it through the glass?

    thank you
  • pf01pf01 Posts: 35
    The Aviator will be in show rooms this summer, so it is highly likely that they will allow you to play inside. I hope that the Aviator will have rear self-leveling air spring, more comfortable ride and less body rattling(an inherent problem with body-on-frame construction). The latter two problems are serious enough that the "Car and Drive" mentioned several times in their review of the new Explorer.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,940
    Ford Unveils First Midsize Luxury Sport Utility Vehicle

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  • www.wieck.com has official photos!
  • haironghairong Posts: 153
    Look at this photo.


    http://osx.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2002/03/27/WKA2002032719663_pv.jpg


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    I have never seen a seat like that. It does make access to 3rd seats that much easier. Is this a Lincoln or Ford exclusive? I don't think the '02 Explorer and Mountaineer have this type of seats.

  • holy smokes. Is there any room in that 3rd seat???
  • haironghairong Posts: 153
    Yes, there is. Go to the wieck site to see the pics (pick "public" then search for "lincoln aviator").

    I've sit in the 3rd roll seat in a '02 'Neer, without the easy entry of course. It has plenty leg room, but too low for adults, because it has to be able to fold flat. I don't think they will change the design for the 3rd roll seat, better material, yes, new design, no.
  • porknbeansporknbeans Posts: 464
    Those seats have been around for at least a couple of years. My 2000 Durango has those flip forward seats although not nearly as nice. If I remember correctly there is a similar version on the Expedition.
  • haironghairong Posts: 153
    My bad. Those seats are not exclusive to Lincoln. It's just the Aviator's version is packaged in such a nice way, especially with the "foot nook", that makes it look like nothing else.

    From Ford's press release,

      Aviators with all-wheel drive that are paired with the optional AdvanceTrac™ traction and stability enhancement system need only one wheel with traction to get under way because the two systems combined allow torque to be shifted side-to-side and front-to-rear.
    Does anybody know what kind of AWD system is this? Thanks. I will also ask this question in the "AWD explained" forum.
  • avlvavlv Posts: 26
    I got this from a Ford Web site..
    Traction Anytime, Anywhere
    Aviator uses two all-wheel-drive systems, neither of which requires driver intervention. A permanently engaged all-wheel drive system that uses a viscous coupling to transfer torque fore and aft is fitted to vehicles without the optional AdvanceTrac interactive vehicle dynamics system. In normal driving, 35 percent of engine torque is directed to the front wheels and 65 percent to the rear.

    Vehicles equipped with AdvanceTrac (late availability) use an electronically controlled single-speed torque on demand transfer case. On most surfaces, this system operates in rear-wheel drive, but if wheel slip occurs, a clutch pack can send up to 100 percent of torque to the front wheels. The system monitors front and rear driveshaft speeds and throttle position, and can anticipate rear wheel slippage and redirect torque before traction is lost.

    All-wheel drive Aviators equipped with AdvanceTrac need only one wheel with traction to move because AdvanceTrac monitors wheel speed at each corner and uses the anti lock brakes and engine management to control wheelspin. This allows engine torque to be directed both fore and aft and side-to-side without heavy locking differentials.
  • jerry2281jerry2281 Posts: 97
    FEATURES:
    Front seat headroom and legroom are best in class.

    Aviator's standard third-row seat folds flat to the floor. Third row legroom is also 5 inches better than the Acura MDX, the next closes competitor. Headroom is three inches greater.

    The front bumper beam is designed to align with passenger car frames to improve crash compatibility.

    Dual-zone electronic climate control and an auxiliary climate control system for second and third-row passengers.

    Heated, power-adjustable side mirrors with built-in approach lamps and turn signal repeaters.

    Sound blocking laminated from door glass and privacy glass for the rear quarter windows and liftgate.

    A DVD based navigation system, telematics, second generation AdvanceTrac (LATE AVAILABILITY) and a five spoke chrome wheel will be available later in the model year.

    All aluminum DOHC 4.6 V-8 and variable length intake runners-302 hp and 300 ft. lbs. of torque.

    Maximum towing-7,300 lbs. 46% better than Mercedes ML 500 and 22% better than BMW X5 4.4. Can even out-tow some full size luxury SUV's, including the Lexus LX 470 by 800 lbs.

    ...speed sensitive, variable assist ZF Servotronic II rack and pinion steering.

    ...four wheel disk brakes with anti-lock control and electronic brakeforce distribution.

    ...optional AdvanceTrac II (late availability) which provides drivers with an interactive vehicle dynamics aid that can help correct oversteer/understeer skids. This system will also add a new industry-leading technology that can reduce the likelihood of untripped vehicle rollovers.

    Another feature that will appear on Aviator later in the model year is a tire pressure monitoring system that will alert the driver when any of the vehicle's tires-including the spare-becomes severely under or over-inflated.

    4 year/50,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. 3 yr/36,000 mile complementary maintenance.

    Full info at: media.lincolnvehicles.com, then view the "2003 Lincoln Aviator Media Kit" then "product information".
  • haironghairong Posts: 153
    Thanks avlv and jerry. I also found the article on the media.ford.com site. At my first visit there, I inexcusably forgot to click on the "Driving Dynamics" link, where a lot of things are explained, including the above piece.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    you pull up Lincoln's home page, they have placed the Aviator on it, and if you give them your email info, they will send you updates...obviously they seem to want to sell these things, most likely to inconsiderate buyers thru inconsiderate salesmen...:):):)
  • I just purchased my tickets on line for the ny auto show....

    if anyone has any questions about the aviator that i can answer by looking at it...ask now
  • Does it have keyless entry?
    Does the third seat fold completely flat?
    Thanks,
    Ned
  • I ll check those two items out...keyless entry and completely flat third row

    i d like to know when the dvd navigation will be offered
    and the vivid red color
  • To clarify my last, sirknightd: By keyless entry, I meant does it have a numerical keypad on the door, or post, like the Explorer or Mountaineer. So you can leave the car running with the doors locked.
    Thanks - have fun at the show!
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    yes to both questions.
  • pexplpexpl Posts: 18
    Does anybody know if ford will sell Aviator in canada? Because the mountaineer didn't came in canada and for me it was a big disapointment. In addition would hid light come to canada, if Ford does sell the avaitor here? From what i understand, goverment of canada might be banning it, i got the facts from the salesman in volvo, because volvo was about to place hid light in their new suv xc90 but planned has been called off, fear of lost in investment.
  • as for the bottom line
    yes to both questions

    they keyless entry pad appears to be located at the same location as the explorer and mountaineer

    at the ny auto show the aviator was on a raised revolving platform.which was fenced off...so i couldnt get close enough to touch it

    i was told by a 'product specialist' that the third row cushion on the bench can be removed to create even more room and allow the the folded seatback to fold more flat

    i was also told by a product specialist that the parchment interior comes with burled walnut

    whereas the light grey interior comes with zebrano wood...

    i like the burled walnut better as i saw it on the navigator

    there appears to be a power point behind the third row
    i was told there is one on the console for use of the second row occupants

    overall the interior seemed delightful to me
    ( from a distance)....
    the exterior was very cautiously designed...in that it wont offend but wont excite either

    i ll get mine when the dvd navigation and advance trac are out
  • bennewmanbennewman Posts: 12
    Does anyone have any reliable information about pricing info? When will the DVD navigation system be available?
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