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Diesel engines, which is better: Ford, Dodge, Chevy



  • loncrayloncray Posts: 301
    Um, Tbunder, they didn't test the HO. Against the 235 hp regular Cummins, I can well imagine the big 6.0 would be a lot more powerful. However, the Dodge boys are still working out an auto tranny that will hold up against the power of the HO engine. Once they get that done, let the people run the test again. Me, I didn't feel like waiting so I got myself a 6-speed and I love it. 305 hp - plenty powerful for anything I want to do!
  • novoqnovoq Posts: 26
    Review of new Power Stroke engine and Power Torq trans.

  • Go to for the latest review by their staff of the 2003 Ford F-350, Chevy 2500HD and the 3500 Dodge. All with diesel engines and factory automatic transmissions. The new 5 speed Ford auto is driven. Read their comments. They may be enlightening! The new Powerstroke 6.0 is being featured. All is very interesting but you should note that Dodge couldn't provide the newest version of the Cummins 5.9 diesel, so comparisons with this truck are using the current issue 5.9 ISB 24 valve engine w/o the latest updates.
  • tbunder1tbunder1 Posts: 257
    so what. it can't even be sold in california.
    and i would bet the house that the SD will outpull and outmuscle the HO as well. nothing beats a ford SD, it's as simple as that.
  • I may just have to trade my 7.3 PSD for this 6.0 PSD.

  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    OK people i need a lil help. Looking at a 2001 F-350 crew cab short bed diesel with a 6-speed. Just need to know how well the 6-speed will hold up. Clutches rebuilds etc etc anyone have any idea bout how long these trannys last without alot of heavy hauling
  • Well, I hope I don't jinx myself here. I have just under 120k on mine. Daily driver, original clutch. I haven't heard of too many problems with them. The factory clutch supposedly has a weak spot in the springs. For $600 you can completely replace everything in the clutch, including the flywheel. Or, for $400 you can put on OE parts and just resurface the flywheel.
  • guys, guys. When a person wants to buya truck. above a 1500 let's say. Go to a commercial salesperson. I am one. I know the extensive training we have to go through to sell a "truck". Most of us that are real professionals aren't just trying to sell one unit. It's about relationships. As far as our Duramax. Well Izuzu has done a great job. I never tell anyone it's OUR new diesel, because of the past. As far as capacity. Refer to a trailering guide. We don't make anymore commission on an automatic! Right now there is a waiting list of about 8-10 weeks for a duramax unless you find one on a lot. Whether you have a problem with any vehicle is not the problem. It's always how your local dealer services you. Unforunately there are some bad ones out there. I feel lucky to work for a dealer that stands behind what we sell.
  • loncrayloncray Posts: 301
    Been awhile since I came and looked at this thread. You might be right - the SD engine might have more hp than the Dodge HO now - all the manufacturers are trying to one up each other. But then I'da had to drive a Ferd instead of my big beautiful Ram! ;)
    Seriously, I hope you're happy with your Ford, I'm loving life in my Dodge, everybody wins.
  • wwhite2wwhite2 Posts: 535
    The tree hugggers wont let my buy a 03 HO cummins here in Massachusetts ( land of the free ?) wonder if I can go to new hampshire and bring one back :-)
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    A guy at Lenz Auto Sales in Fond Du Lac WI was tryint to tell me today that a truck he has is worth MORE cuz its a manual 6-speed ford diesel. I think he full of something, and it aint hot air. Would you guys trust this guy or am i wrong here???
  • I'm awfully partial to the 6 speed, but I'd be wary of him. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I have never personally witnessed a manual tranny vehicle sell for more than an auto tranny vehicle of the same make, model and options. (I'm talking about cars and light duty trucks.) It could be that HE THINKS HIS manual is worth more, or it could be he has a lot full of manual tranny trucks and wants to get rid of them.

    I don't trust many salesmen. The few I do have earned my respect.
  • The six speed with 6.0 Powerstroke had BIG production delays due to quality problems. They were supposed to be produced back in Sept/Oct, but stopped the entire run and went back to drawing board . From what I've read they finally ran a bunch through line in Kentuckey a couple of weeks back. Guess since they're so rare right now your dealer thinks he's got the ability to rape his customer on this truck. It's gonna take Ford a while to fill all the back orders on this combination, then prices will fall back to normal.
  • Beware, I've heard a lot bad lately about Lenz - we looked at a used Explorer years ago there and it was way out of wack on the price - ended up at the time with a used Blazer from Ripon, but that was way back in '96 or something around there. What year is it? Have you looked it up for market price? lol.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    Ive looked it up on NADA and the price seems right on, but like i said and mullins stated we have never seen a manual be more expensive than a 6-speed. Been trying forever to find a decent mile crew cab single rear wheel diesel 6-speed and for the life of me i cant find one. oh well i have time for one to appear. Happy Trails everyone.
  • Best of luck - they're starting to show up. Here in Wautoma there was a (if I remember right) '00 crew cab, auto, diesel, XLT, tow, off road, etc. with 102,000 miles - they wanted about $17,000 for that one. Hubby would have loved it, but I really don't want 2 diesels right now - I want a gas to drive in winter to work (2 miles each way). Best of luck - keep looking.

  • Yeah, I looked long and hard before I found mine. Seems as though all of the nice used SD's are auto's while the 6-speeds are really used to work. I got lucky and found exactly the truck I would have ordered. Keep looking, one will eventually turn up.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    I just hope i dont have to settle for an automatic... but if i have to i have to i guess. Even an auto broker cant find one at Ford auctions. Oh well i have wheels for now, just a waiting game, only depends on how much paitence i have lol.
  • Have you tried an auto and compared the two? True, even when looking at new ones, manuals were hard to find, but we're happy with the auto. Actually, hubby has gotten older and is sick of shifting - he drives truck & says "I do it all week, I'm done doing it on the weekends". When we get rid of our 1/2 ton manual, it will be replaced with another automatic.

    Good luck in finding what you're looking for. lol.

  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    I DO drive trucks all week and i still like them manuals. Ive owned both and driven both for work, and i perfer a manual. Personal preferance thing i know, but i dont do a whole lot of city driving in my personal truck. Had an auto broker find me a new one...lil more than i wanted to spend but looks like i can afford it so ill let you know what happens there :)
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